Topic: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable Smart Contract Platform w/ Proof of Stake - page 180. (Read 525459 times)

I don't think you understand what proof means. This is crypto we are talking about, there is objective evidence on the blockchain and that is the only thing that can be trusted. Why should we trust exchanges controlled by the team themselves when we could rely on a trustless system to obtain our proof? It's so simple to do, and the fact you and the team are still fighting this is a gigantic red flag. This struggle you guys are putting up is equivalent to admittance. There is no reason for it except that you need to hide something.

My theory: The ICO did not raise anywhere near 15 mil, but you are going to pretend it did until release, because although you didn't raise 15 mil you have control of the vast majority of the coins because you "purchased" them from the exchanges under your own control. All you need to do is maintain some confidence in the coin until release, and then you can dump to make up for all the money you didn't raise in the ICO.

You could prove that wrong in an instant, but you don't because apparently you can't. And let me make one thing clear, until objective evidence of the ICO funds (the addresses) are shared with the community I will be in here alllllllll the way up until and past the launch making sure nobody who comes here forgets or is unaware that the team has failed to bear their burden of proof and provide this simple and standard degree of transparency that they themselves alluded to before the ICO.

Remember, your own words: "the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies"
Qtum declared a successful ICO, I am just denying it

The proof is the numerous exchanges which witnessed the success 

And remember everybody this is a quote from stackoverflow: ""the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies"

And as we all know qtum is the one who declared a successful ICO, and I am only denying that
So according to stackoverflow himself I don't have to provide any proof to deny it, they are the ones that need to provide proof to confirm it.

Yunbi have not qtum in trading yet or i am not good to find.

I don't have to prove anything, because that's not how things are done around here. I can just say it is so and it is so. Pretty awesome!

How is that a failure when all the exchanges were sold out as they announced?

You think they're lying? prove it!

Here's the address for qtum's ICO funds: https://blockchain.info/address/1DBiehhnU9xjq14spVxALsTjAEgH9BGmB (I can say whatever I want and post it as truth without providing any proof just like the qtum team has done, because that is how reality works in their world)

Even less than I thought!     

I don't need to wish, it is evident based on the logic you outlined yourself. Not my words, yours. Sorry the ICO was such a failure.

You wish!

Is that all I got, or are you just retarded? Because if you knew how to read you would notice there is more there than just name calling in my post. On the other-hand, all you have are these pathetic attempts to deflect.

Whatever, as you already said youself: the burden of proof lies on qtum. They haven't provided it. Therefore, the ICO must have been a complete failure. SAD!

Name calling again? 

That's all you got!

LOL show me the "data" you speak of. There is only one type of data that can serve as evidence and that is the data on the blockchain. That is exactly what I am asking for, the data- the addresses which show proof of the funds. It's so simple. Just how dumb are you? How dumb do you think observers to this thread are?

Pick what proof I want? There is only one proof you imbecile and it hasn't been provided. LMAO.

The problem with you is you want to pick what proof you want, and only accept that. This is not how it works!

Success of the ICO have been confirmed by exchanges data, you cannot deny that.

Finally someone pointing out something positive about the project, beware, you might be called a shill for stating your opinion 

Thanks for admitting you are a lying hypocrite. You can't apply your logic of "the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies" only when it suits you but not when it doesn't. No matter how hard you try you can't deny it, those are your own words.  And they are the ones declaring a successful ICO, I am only denying that. So according to your own statement they are the ones that bear the burden of proof. If you try to deny that, you are demonstrating that you are incapable of adhering to your very own statements and logic. Meaning you are a lying hypocrite that can't be trusted.  

I will say right away that I do not belong to the camp of supporters of Qtum, as well as to the camp of its opponents. For the most part, I'm only interested in the technological component of this project. And, having got acquainted with the raw source code that the development team posted on github, I can clearly see that the work is being performed (or was done earlier).
It's hard for me to say that developers implement the full range of planned features and capabilities, but even some of them make the project interesting not only from the investment point of view.

Team Qtum said the word "transparency" countless times, but totally forgot about it once they garnered $15M and all we asked was to see the proof, but what we got instead was them linking to articles echoing their claim and Team Qtum responding to a sig-campaign poster about something mundane. They might as well just come here and tell us what brand of goodies they feed their cat.

Team Qtum walks into a bar. The bartender asks what'll be? Team Qtum says all the drinks are on us because he just got $15M. At closing time, Time Qtum is presented the bill from the bartender. Team Qtum says, "What part of us getting $15M didn't you understand? The we'll-pay-you-in-September part?" Right then, a regular by the name of cocksuckeroverflow got into an argument with the bartender, allowing Team Qtum to sneak out the side door. Then cocksuckeroverflow said, "I'm sick of arguing with a clown bartender who thinks he's smart. This bar has turned into a landfill of incompetent winos!"

I was referring to your accusation that this project is a scam, the burden of proof for this is on you!

As for the funds, the exchanges have collected them, that's proof enough for me. Now if you accuse these exchanges of being in bed with the team and falsifying information, you know what you need to do: provide proof.

I think it's useless at this point to try and discuss with you, it seems paranoia have gotten the best of you.

These are your own words bud, so if you are arguing against them you are arguing against yourself: "the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies"


I don't think I am smart, those are your own words- you're the smart one!
Unless you are arguing against yourself, in which case that isn't very smart...

I'm just ecstatic that you finally agree that the burden of proof is on qtum who has declared they raised over 15 milion USD but provided absolutely zero proof to support that. And that the burden does not lie on me since I am simply denying that claim. This means you are going to help me pressure them for this proof, right? Really looking forward to you asking qtum to provide the proof now that you admit it is their responsibility! Glad you are on our side for once!

Or do you want to admit you are a lying hypocrite? Which will it be?

You can't weasel your way out this time, those are your own goddamn words.

So, we have Team Qtum addressing a post penned by a dude who's never posted in this thread before, with only posting so to increase his post count in satisfying his current sig campaign requirements, but Team Qtum CAN'T provide proof that $15M was truly amass during its ICO, an easy task for any non-nefarious actor.

Meanwhile, Team Qtum's #1 fanboy, cocksuckeroverflow, is calling it quits because he just came to the realization that this thread has turned in a landfill of incompetent trolls.

Totally fuckin amazing! If the likes of the above happened in an insane asylum, the actors would be given a double dose of medication till the end of their days.


Operators of legit projects ALWAYS never show proof of transactions after promising full transparency like Qtum did.