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Topic: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable Smart Contract Platform w/ Proof of Stake - page 252. (Read 525472 times)

newbie
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How can i get qtum?
legendary
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Who scam the once - will scam again..... Don't trust in such team for real.... Just fire the Dai and all will be Glad

He is a co-founder, I'm not sure whether they(the foundation members) have right to fire him, many other co-founders can. There is no board there, fire a co-founder could be very difficult. And 1 million USD has invested on him already.

In my opinion: Not enough evidence to say Qtum is a scam.

One of the most interesting questions in my opinion is, if the rest of the team knew about Dai's past or not. Any infos?

As if they would tell you the truth.  Roll Eyes

When there is a corruption at the very top, you can safely assume that many people were also involved in a planned corruption. They've already scammed $1 million out of the community.

You'll never be able to determine who of those remaining are not scammers.

Safer to assume they all are complicit and move on. Blacklist all their names from future projects, so there are consequences to working with scammers.

Sorry for the bag holders. Let it be a lesson to you to stop investing in bullshit. Any one can write up a whitepaper and make a fancy website with a lot of rehashed bullshit.

I don't ask because I believe to get the truth as answer. I ask because it's a very relevant question and the latest reactions are a little bit covering that fact and that both possibilities would be revealing.

A) If they would say they knew: That would be bad for sure, because the next question would be why they've started a project with somebody with such a past.

B) If they would say that they didn't know, they would say between the lines: "He also deceived us!" In that case it would be hard to explain why they will move on with him.

 
If you think about it: Very complicated situation out of their perspective and once they start the ICO - those questions will come for sure.
hero member
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When there is a corruption at the very top, you can safely assume that many people were also involved in a planned corruption. They've already scammed $1 million out of the community.

This project raised $1 million but it doesn't start until March?
Does this date already on a march? I don't think so. The project still has a lot of the problem. I guess they will not starting the ico in a short time.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.


When there is a corruption at the very top, you can safely assume that many people were also involved in a planned corruption. They've already scammed $1 million out of the community.

This project raised $1 million but it doesn't start until March?
sr. member
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Sorry for the bag holders. Let it be a lesson to you to stop investing in bullshit. Any one can write up a whitepaper and make a fancy website with a lot of rehashed bullshit.

Why are you sorry? there is no bag holder yet since the ICO has not commenced. I think if Qtum team are transparent as they claim it is better to let DAI guy step down or take back sit in this project, if the issue of scam is still on his neck, I doubt this project will get any traction.
sr. member
Activity: 336
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Who scam the once - will scam again..... Don't trust in such team for real.... Just fire the Dai and all will be Glad

He is a co-founder, I'm not sure whether they(the foundation members) have right to fire him, many other co-founders can. There is no board there, fire a co-founder could be very difficult. And 1 million USD has invested on him already.

In my opinion: Not enough evidence to say Qtum is a scam.

One of the most interesting questions in my opinion is, if the rest of the team knew about Dai's past or not. Any infos?

As if they would tell you the truth.  Roll Eyes

When there is a corruption at the very top, you can safely assume that many people were also involved in a planned corruption. They've already scammed $1 million out of the community.

You'll never be able to determine who of those remaining are not scammers.

Safer to assume they all are complicit and move on. Blacklist all their names from future projects, so there are consequences to working with scammers.

Sorry for the bag holders. Let it be a lesson to you to stop investing in bullshit. Any one can write up a whitepaper and make a fancy website with a lot of rehashed bullshit.
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Who scam the once - will scam again..... Don't trust in such team for real.... Just fire the Dai and all will be Glad

He is a co-founder, I'm not sure whether they(the foundation members) have right to fire him, many other co-founders can. There is no board there, fire a co-founder could be very difficult. And 1 million USD has invested on him already.
legendary
Activity: 1960
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what is the investigate result of this coin ,,,another Scam or not?

In my opinion: Not enough evidence to say Qtum is a scam. But there is enough proof to say they have a serious credibility-problem and to say they see no fault in Dai's past activities in Bitbay is most likely not helpful to get this on a legit path.


(...)
[2014-11-15 9:19:48 AM] Steven Dai: and we control 60% of the Total Bitbay..
[2014-11-15 9:19:52 AM] Steven Dai: that will be huge
[2014-11-15 9:21:18 AM] Gekko: how much total % we have now?
[2014-11-15 9:24:09 AM] Steven Dai: 1283BTC by myself and 500BTC by bob...i hold 0.44billion and i think that group hold about 0.19 billion..so we control about 0.63 billion together

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.4610;wap2


If they move on and do an ICO it's still possible to get money and that this could turn out as legit. But the above in combination with a crowdsale of only 51%, plus it's a PoS-System - won't be easy.


hero member
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seems  this coin is a scam for real  ,,just like many  other chinese coins
hero member
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what is the investigate result of this coin ,,,another Scam or not?
sr. member
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Github will cement proof of intent, I would provide it before the ICO IMO.

 

This is actually one of the best things I have seen posted here. Yes lets wait to see what the Github has. The team says its been developing for many months. These tops investors are supporting Qtum for a reason. Lets see when it comes out.

They do not want to show the code, covering fact that they are afraid that someone will make clone their project. Although, I think there is completely different reason.
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Who scam the once - will scam again..... Don't trust in such team for real.... Just fire the Dai and all will be Glad
legendary
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One of the most interesting questions in my opinion is, if the rest of the team knew about Dai's past or not. Any infos?
newbie
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Github will cement proof of intent, I would provide it before the ICO IMO.

 

This is actually one of the best things I have seen posted here. Yes lets wait to see what the Github has. The team says its been developing for many months. These tops investors are supporting Qtum for a reason. Lets see when it comes out.
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Github will cement proof of intent, I would provide it before the ICO IMO.

 
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torunzone.com is offline, but here's one archive (wanna guess what it does prior to clicking?; no, it's not porn, but you're close - go ahead and click it! I'll wait; try not to piss your pants):

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209013221/http://www.torunzone.com/

The following is humor relief at Roger Ver's expense:

Quote
I'm Roger Ver, long time Bitcoin advocate and investor.
Today I'm at the Qtum world headquarters somewhere in China.
I had a nice chat with Patrick Dai, or whatever his name is, about their current situation.
He showed me multiple stuff.
I'm sure that the current situation at Qtum is being caused by something.
The people at Qtum are hard at work establishing themselves.
For now,  I hope that everyone will continue working on Bitcoin projects that will help make the world a better place.

WOW, another name: Johnson Dai? ROFLMAO, so we can dig more about this Johnson Dai's dirty history now? Ironically, Roger Ver seems nothing loss because he owns more than 100k btc.

I'll fondle your johnson and give you half a reach-around if you can correctly name the dude behind 35.com: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/two-famous-listed-companies-began-bitcoin-business-35com-and-cnfolco-324186. No cheating via Google or clicking the link prior to your guess. Clue(s) may or may not have been provided in the body of this post. Okay, go! Only one winner will be expressly rewarded. The winner is to make sure that their johnson is thoroughly cleaned. And hurry up with your answer, dudes. I don't have all day.
Friedcat?? Thats a blast from the past.

Johnsons Baby. Head & Shoulders. What are u banging on about? Shampoo is what first comes to mind after reading that incoherent crap. I dont use that shit coz its disruptive to my hair and irritates hair follicles, I prefer Johnsons baby shampoo instead, that one is way better and doesnt have an acrid content that causes ur fucking hair to fall out. And quit that shit about vers posts. Cheesus bro after reading ur post my fist started wanting to test ur face.
vip
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Yes Gleb, thanks for your support in the past, we'll earn it again I hope.

It pisses me off when they figure out my soft spot.  Cry I'm outta here, for I got plenty of work to do on my project - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nn-yutucoin-1st-crypto-commodity-catering-2-youtube-creators-1801101 (apologies for the plug, Qtum). Feel free to PM me, guys, if Qtum goes south. Hope I was able to help with what little I provided.
legendary
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torunzone.com is offline, but here's one archive (wanna guess what it does prior to clicking?; no, it's not porn, but you're close - go ahead and click it! I'll wait; try not to piss your pants):

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209013221/http://www.torunzone.com/

The following is humor relief at Roger Ver's expense:

Quote
I'm Roger Ver, long time Bitcoin advocate and investor.
Today I'm at the Qtum world headquarters somewhere in China.
I had a nice chat with Patrick Dai, or whatever his name is, about their current situation.
He showed me multiple stuff.
I'm sure that the current situation at Qtum is being caused by something.
The people at Qtum are hard at work establishing themselves.
For now,  I hope that everyone will continue working on Bitcoin projects that will help make the world a better place.

WOW, another name: Johnson Dai? ROFLMAO, so we can dig more about this Johnson Dai's dirty history now? Ironically, Roger Ver seems nothing loss because he owns more than 100k btc.

I'll fondle your johnson and give you half a reach-around if you can correctly name the dude behind 35.com: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/two-famous-listed-companies-began-bitcoin-business-35com-and-cnfolco-324186. No cheating via Google or clicking the link prior to your guess. Clue(s) may or may not have been provided in the body of this post. Okay, go! Only one winner will be expressly rewarded. The winner is to make sure that their johnson is thoroughly cleaned. And hurry up with your answer, dudes. I don't have all day.
Friedcat?? Thats a blast from the past.
sr. member
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Why are people even excited by this technobabble of marrying several technologies which don't scale? This is not breaking any new ground. It is just an rehashed, mashing together of technologies that already don't work well.

Let's be honest with ourselves about the relevance of your bullshit.

Nobody has solved the blockchain scaling problem yet (except by centralization but that doesn't scale in terms of trust).

When are you fools going to stop rewarding scammers for deluding us with technobabble bullshit?

They already have a $million in funding. That is enough for them to go build a project and launch it. Then they can self-fund by selling tokens on the exchanges in a free market.

Stop handing people $millions for writing a technobabble bullshit whitepaper. You are destroying the ecosystem. The criminals are siphoning off all the capital and none will be remaining. That is why our ecosystem is stagnating. No progress is being made.


Re: Stay away from ICO

Who cares if Monero and Dash are scams when you can make good money on every pump and dump.

Scammers take capital out of the ecosystem and spend it on crack, Yachts, booze, and prostitutes.

You personally may get richer (if you are a good speculator), while on average the ecosystem gets poorer, unless of course we are bringing more new fools (and their capital) into our ecosystem from outside of it.

So eventually there could be no ecosystem remaining for you to speculate in.

My opinion is we have a window of time (5 - 10 years?) within which to leverage this opportunity to produce something really significant that could help the world. And to produce a $trillion marketcap.

Any way, please continue what you are doing. Hopefully those who developers who are serious will find a way to operate within this ecosystem so we don't lose the potential.
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torunzone.com is offline, but here's one archive (wanna guess what it does prior to clicking?; no, it's not porn, but you're close - go ahead and click it! I'll wait; try not to piss your pants):

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209013221/http://www.torunzone.com/

The following is humor relief at Roger Ver's expense:

Quote
I'm Roger Ver, long time Bitcoin advocate and investor.
Today I'm at the Qtum world headquarters somewhere in China.
I had a nice chat with Patrick Dai, or whatever his name is, about their current situation.
He showed me multiple stuff.
I'm sure that the current situation at Qtum is being caused by something.
The people at Qtum are hard at work establishing themselves.
For now,  I hope that everyone will continue working on Bitcoin projects that will help make the world a better place.

WOW, another name: Johnson Dai? ROFLMAO, so we can dig more about this Johnson Dai's dirty history now? Ironically, Roger Ver seems nothing loss because he owns more than 100k btc.

I'll fondle your johnson and give you half a reach-around if you can correctly name the dude behind 35.com: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/two-famous-listed-companies-began-bitcoin-business-35com-and-cnfolco-324186. No cheating via Google or clicking the link prior to your guess. Clue(s) may or may not have been provided in the body of this post. Okay, go! Only one winner will be expressly rewarded. The winner is to make sure that their johnson is thoroughly cleaned. And hurry up with your answer, dudes. I don't have all day.
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