I noticed that unlike other popular mixers in the past and present, you people have a telegram channel. AFAIK telegram can submit private data like chat logs, IP addresses, mobile numbers etc to authorities if requested for serious investigation.
We all know what happened last year, one mixer was seized by authorities after they had concluded the investigations (we have no idea who long authorities had been watching them), another one closed off their business and wiped out their servers within a week in panic and on short notice meaning they must have discovered they were being watched. This means there will always be a witch hunt for mixers no matter how genuine the intentions are.
What plans do you have to avoid such disaster? Because if authorities start watching you they will leave no stone unturned, they will try to request for that data from telegram to continue with their investigation.
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February 09, 2020, 12:06:39 PM
February 09, 2020, 02:43:41 AM
Hello, I noticed that your blog articles in French aren’t properly translated. Interested in a translator?
February 08, 2020, 02:57:47 AM
Depending on how you look at it and don't have enough information you might say that this information is not true. But this is not the case.
It's definitely not true. The transactions are fake. You want users to believe they are real.
we want to give the clients an insight into the transaction situation without publishing specific client data.
Just put a banner that says something like "We average X transactions per hour".
Popups are annoying as hell, so now it's misleading and annoying. I'd say get rid of them entirely.
February 08, 2020, 02:27:01 AM
You have done a very good job and it shows your intelligence, competence and quality management skills. But it would still have been much easier to just ask us.
He did just ask you....
Why would you do this?
Depending on how you look at it and don't have enough information you might say that this information is not true. But this is not the case.
It's definitely not true. The transactions are fake. You want users to believe they are real.
we want to give the clients an insight into the transaction situation without publishing specific client data.
Just put a banner that says something like "We average X transactions per hour".
February 07, 2020, 07:14:15 PM
Hello AdolfinWolf,
It is really remarkable that you have found this source code through these logical conclusions.
You have done a very good job and it shows your intelligence, competence and quality management skills. But it would still have been much easier to just ask us.
The IT department has already provided us in advance with documentation on how these notifications are generated.
First we can confirm that these notifications are not served by our servers. These notifications are generated locally on each client independently and without the need for an active internet connection and are randomly if you only look at the source code and have no in-depth information about our statistics. You have already found this out very well.
The Javascript source code your have copied is indeed responsible for generating these notifications.
Depending on how you look at it and don't have enough information you might say that this information is not true. But this is not the case.
We don't want to give detailed information about our customer transactions, especially since we store only the most necessary information for the duration of the mixing operation and then delete everything but still we would like to provide such transaction notifications to the visitors.
Now, to understand that this information is generated locally and independently but are still true, you need to have the following information:
We generate three times more transactions in the currency Bitcoin than in the currency Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash. And just over twice as often our customers use the Stealth Pool than the Standard Pool or Smart Pool.
We can also say that a certain number of successful transactions per minute pass through our service. That means: Mixing orders that are opened and where BTC is actually sent from the customer to the deposit address.
This information is sufficient to create a statistical relation and dependency. If you now look at the source code you will notice that based on the randomly generated numbers and the linked conditions the above mentioned information is represented by these random numbers.
So in summary you can say:
You're right, this information is client-side generated, but still we want to give the clients an insight into the transaction situation without publishing specific client data. Looking at this section of the source code, you now can understand that if you repeat the process a few times, you will get values that are close to the real values. The higher the loop repetition the closer the randomly generated values come to the real values. This means that the longer you visit the site, the closer you get to the representative statistics. Therefore it is legitimate to display this information to the customers without any disadvantage to any party.
And again: We think it's good to have people like you in the community, who also do their own research and investigation.
Thank you very much for using our service.
It is really remarkable that you have found this source code through these logical conclusions.
You have done a very good job and it shows your intelligence, competence and quality management skills. But it would still have been much easier to just ask us.
The IT department has already provided us in advance with documentation on how these notifications are generated.
First we can confirm that these notifications are not served by our servers. These notifications are generated locally on each client independently and without the need for an active internet connection and are randomly if you only look at the source code and have no in-depth information about our statistics. You have already found this out very well.
The Javascript source code your have copied is indeed responsible for generating these notifications.
Depending on how you look at it and don't have enough information you might say that this information is not true. But this is not the case.
We don't want to give detailed information about our customer transactions, especially since we store only the most necessary information for the duration of the mixing operation and then delete everything but still we would like to provide such transaction notifications to the visitors.
Now, to understand that this information is generated locally and independently but are still true, you need to have the following information:
We generate three times more transactions in the currency Bitcoin than in the currency Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash. And just over twice as often our customers use the Stealth Pool than the Standard Pool or Smart Pool.
We can also say that a certain number of successful transactions per minute pass through our service. That means: Mixing orders that are opened and where BTC is actually sent from the customer to the deposit address.
This information is sufficient to create a statistical relation and dependency. If you now look at the source code you will notice that based on the randomly generated numbers and the linked conditions the above mentioned information is represented by these random numbers.
So in summary you can say:
You're right, this information is client-side generated, but still we want to give the clients an insight into the transaction situation without publishing specific client data. Looking at this section of the source code, you now can understand that if you repeat the process a few times, you will get values that are close to the real values. The higher the loop repetition the closer the randomly generated values come to the real values. This means that the longer you visit the site, the closer you get to the representative statistics. Therefore it is legitimate to display this information to the customers without any disadvantage to any party.
And again: We think it's good to have people like you in the community, who also do their own research and investigation.
Thank you very much for using our service.
February 07, 2020, 02:48:43 PM
I've observed the SmartMixer.io website for a couple minutes now, and something strange is happening.
These "mixing" alerts don't pop up at the same time, or anywhere near the same time.
In three different browsers i observed the notifications. They were all different.
I came to the conclusion that they were either fake, or either only sending out notifications of the most recent transaction x seconds.
I unplugged my internet to make sure... and... They kept coming. I figured they were generated client-side.
And.... they are..
Wow... Explain this...
Why would you do this?
These "mixing" alerts don't pop up at the same time, or anywhere near the same time.
In three different browsers i observed the notifications. They were all different.
I came to the conclusion that they were either fake, or either only sending out notifications of the most recent transaction x seconds.
I unplugged my internet to make sure... and... They kept coming. I figured they were generated client-side.
And.... they are..
Wow... Explain this...
Code:
const getRandomInt = (min,max)=>{
min = Math.ceil(min);
max = Math.floor(max);
return Math.floor(Math.random() * (max - min)) + min;
}
;
const socialProof = $(".fixed-social-proof");
const socialProofCurrency = $(".fixed-social-proof .currency");
const socialProofPool = $(".fixed-social-proof .pool");
const socialProofCloseIcon = $(".fixed-social-proof .close-icon");
let socialProofTimeOut;
function showSocialProof(currencyVal, poolVal, hideAfter=6000) {
socialProofCurrency.text(currencyVal);
socialProofPool.text(poolVal);
socialProof.removeClass("fadeOutLeft").addClass("fadeInLeft");
socialProofTimeOut && clearTimeout(socialProofTimeOut);
socialProofTimeOut = setTimeout(()=>{
socialProof.removeClass("fadeInLeft").addClass("fadeOutLeft");
}
, hideAfter);
}
socialProofCloseIcon.on("click", ()=>{
socialProofTimeOut && clearTimeout(socialProofTimeOut);
socialProof.removeClass("fadeInLeft").addClass("fadeOutLeft");
}
);
(function loop() {
const rand = getRandomInt(30000, 50000);
const poolRandom = getRandomInt(1, 4);
let poolName = "Standard Pool";
if (poolRandom === 2) {
poolName = "Smart Pool";
}
if (poolRandom >= 3) {
poolName = "Stealth Pool";
}
let currency = "Bitcoin";
let currencyRandom = getRandomInt(1, 5);
if (currencyRandom === 1) {
currency = "Litecoin";
}
if (currencyRandom === 2) {
currency = "Bitcoin Cash";
}
setTimeout(function() {
showSocialProof(currency, poolName, 4000);
loop();
}, rand);
}
)();
});
}
https://www.smartmixer.io/bundles/frontend/assets/js/main.js?v=1581085334min = Math.ceil(min);
max = Math.floor(max);
return Math.floor(Math.random() * (max - min)) + min;
}
;
const socialProof = $(".fixed-social-proof");
const socialProofCurrency = $(".fixed-social-proof .currency");
const socialProofPool = $(".fixed-social-proof .pool");
const socialProofCloseIcon = $(".fixed-social-proof .close-icon");
let socialProofTimeOut;
function showSocialProof(currencyVal, poolVal, hideAfter=6000) {
socialProofCurrency.text(currencyVal);
socialProofPool.text(poolVal);
socialProof.removeClass("fadeOutLeft").addClass("fadeInLeft");
socialProofTimeOut && clearTimeout(socialProofTimeOut);
socialProofTimeOut = setTimeout(()=>{
socialProof.removeClass("fadeInLeft").addClass("fadeOutLeft");
}
, hideAfter);
}
socialProofCloseIcon.on("click", ()=>{
socialProofTimeOut && clearTimeout(socialProofTimeOut);
socialProof.removeClass("fadeInLeft").addClass("fadeOutLeft");
}
);
(function loop() {
const rand = getRandomInt(30000, 50000);
const poolRandom = getRandomInt(1, 4);
let poolName = "Standard Pool";
if (poolRandom === 2) {
poolName = "Smart Pool";
}
if (poolRandom >= 3) {
poolName = "Stealth Pool";
}
let currency = "Bitcoin";
let currencyRandom = getRandomInt(1, 5);
if (currencyRandom === 1) {
currency = "Litecoin";
}
if (currencyRandom === 2) {
currency = "Bitcoin Cash";
}
setTimeout(function() {
showSocialProof(currency, poolName, 4000);
loop();
}, rand);
}
)();
});
}
Why would you do this?
February 07, 2020, 12:05:39 PM
Can you admit in this topic, you sent my funds back for my order (yes/no)?
I take the fact that they ignored this question as a confirmation. February 07, 2020, 10:41:48 AM
Securing Coins with Bitcoin Mixers When Using Cryptocurrency Exchanges
While trading cryptocurrency, there is a lot you need to watch out for and tools and strategies to employ. The security of your coins is also important. Read here for more information.
https://smartmixer.io/en/blog/securing-coins-with-bitcoin-mixers-when-using-cryptocurrency-exchanges
While trading cryptocurrency, there is a lot you need to watch out for and tools and strategies to employ. The security of your coins is also important. Read here for more information.
https://smartmixer.io/en/blog/securing-coins-with-bitcoin-mixers-when-using-cryptocurrency-exchanges
February 07, 2020, 08:11:38 AM
If any other questions arise from anyone, you can contact us via email at [email protected]. This will be forwarded to the technical department then, which will deal with this further.
Can you admit in this topic, you sent my funds back for my order (yes/no)?
February 06, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
Seems good, look like your maintenance was already finished. I did make a transaction using Tor smrtmxdxognxhv64.onion an hour ago and all smooth going well. thanks for your team make fast responsibility to fix the problem.
by the way, how to disable notification like this?
by the way, how to disable notification like this?
February 06, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Dear Community,
Our maintenance work is now finished. Unfortunately we needed more time than scheduled. Nevertheless, such maintenance work is necessary to make continuous improvements to our systems. These procedures are only intended to improve the customer experience, security and mixing algorithm.
During this maintenance we have made some design changes and system adjustments so that our service is better and more secure than ever before.
All orders which were placed during the maintenance will be processed now and all customers will receive their clean coins after the waiting period.
Thank you for your understanding.
Website: www.smartmixer.io
Tor: smrtmxdxognxhv64.onion
Our maintenance work is now finished. Unfortunately we needed more time than scheduled. Nevertheless, such maintenance work is necessary to make continuous improvements to our systems. These procedures are only intended to improve the customer experience, security and mixing algorithm.
During this maintenance we have made some design changes and system adjustments so that our service is better and more secure than ever before.
All orders which were placed during the maintenance will be processed now and all customers will receive their clean coins after the waiting period.
Thank you for your understanding.
Website: www.smartmixer.io
Tor: smrtmxdxognxhv64.onion
February 06, 2020, 05:46:11 PM
@smartmixer, what is the current status? Is the maintenance has complete?
I saw notification showing that someone has made a mixing order
I saw notification showing that someone has made a mixing order
February 06, 2020, 03:54:46 PM
The letter of guarantee is integrated with a special hash. With help of this hash, we can verify the letter of guarantee and check that nothing has been changed. The letter of guarantee is only used when issues in the mixing operation occur. Meaning our technical department needs to verify it's authenticity, that's why it can be only verified with the hash.
That means the Letter of Guarantee is just a Letter, is doesn't Guarantee anything. The sole purpose of a Letter of Guarantee is that a client can proof foul play if it happens (as happened in this example).Quote
And that's why we haven't integrated a signature but can consider to put it in the next update so that also users can verify its authenticity.
Better late than never I guess 
February 06, 2020, 03:32:41 PM
How to prove your letter of guarantee is correct? letter don't have any signature, for kids only this shit?
I'd like to know this too. I received json-code from smartmixer_scam, but have no way to verify it's authenticity.I tried to get my own code, but got a "Something went wrong"-message.
We have already mentioned why this issue occurred during this mixing operation. At the time when the mixing order was created, our system was under maintenance, which resulted to a limitation of our wallets. At this moment, only the maintenance wallet was online.
I don't think anyone is complaining about having limited wallets available at the moment. The complaint is that you shouldn't send them their own funds without a warning! If maintenance happens: tough luck, try again later. But if someone doesn't check by himself, he'll never know his funds aren't mixed if you don't tell them. You can use as an opportunity to improve your service, and ensure it can't happen again.Hi LoyceV, thanks for the comment.
The letter of guarantee is integrated with a special hash. With help of this hash, we can verify the letter of guarantee and check that nothing has been changed. The letter of guarantee is only used when issues in the mixing operation occur. Meaning our technical department needs to verify it's authenticity, that's why it can be only verified with the hash. And that's why we haven't integrated a signature but can consider to put it in the next update so that also users can verify its authenticity.
The error message has appeared because of the maintenance work that takes place at the moment.
And you're totally right, this shouldn't happen. As you already said, we will use this as an opportunity to improve our maintenance procedure, as well as the signature in the letter of guarantee, so that such issues do not occur again. The technical department has already been notified and will take care of everything.
February 06, 2020, 12:58:08 PM
How to prove your letter of guarantee is correct? letter don't have any signature, for kids only this shit?
I'd like to know this too. I received json-code from smartmixer_scam, but have no way to verify it's authenticity.I tried to get my own code, but got a "Something went wrong"-message.
We have already mentioned why this issue occurred during this mixing operation. At the time when the mixing order was created, our system was under maintenance, which resulted to a limitation of our wallets. At this moment, only the maintenance wallet was online.
I don't think anyone is complaining about having limited wallets available at the moment. The complaint is that you shouldn't send them their own funds without a warning! If maintenance happens: tough luck, try again later. But if someone doesn't check by himself, he'll never know his funds aren't mixed if you don't tell them. You can use as an opportunity to improve your service, and ensure it can't happen again. February 06, 2020, 12:25:05 PM
We have already mentioned why this issue occurred during this mixing operation. At the time when the mixing order was created, our system was under maintenance, which resulted to a limitation of our wallets. At this moment, only the maintenance wallet was online. We know, that such issues can make one or some of our clients peeved and that these issues can lead to a loss of clients who are then passed on to other mixers. Maintenance work happens all the time when dealing with computational instruments. We advice against sharing the letter of guarantee with anyone, especially since we have confirmed this situation. Because this can endanger your privacy.
If any other questions arise from anyone, you can contact us via email at [email protected]. This will be forwarded to the technical department then, which will deal with this further.
If any other questions arise from anyone, you can contact us via email at [email protected]. This will be forwarded to the technical department then, which will deal with this further.
February 05, 2020, 06:13:53 PM
Some time ago i used this service.
I was interested in the option "Stealth Pool" on this site, I used the service for the intended purpose, the amount is certainly large for me >30,000 USD, given that the fee for this operation is from 4 percent.
I completed the order and after some time received my payment minus 4-5%
percent of my amount, but I went to the blockchain explorer and returned a few transactions up to establish the source of payment, there was no limit to my wondering, my deposit transaction from the withdraw transaction was a chain of 5 transactions, in fact, mixer paid me 100% of my funds back that I deposited to them.
After I contacted the support service in an impudent manner, they completely returned 4% of my costs to me back, but before that they asked me to delete a message from this thread where I indicated only that the support does not respond 12 hours to my ticket.
From their words they say there was a failure, I do not believe in their words.
I WANT SIMPLY TO WARN USERS THAT THIS SERVICE HAS A RESERVE OF MAXIMUM 1-2 BTC, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING IT. They will simply deceive and scammed when they receive an amount greater than mine, $30,000 is not enough for them.
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
Caution with such services. good luck.
I was interested in the option "Stealth Pool" on this site, I used the service for the intended purpose, the amount is certainly large for me >30,000 USD, given that the fee for this operation is from 4 percent.
I completed the order and after some time received my payment minus 4-5%
percent of my amount, but I went to the blockchain explorer and returned a few transactions up to establish the source of payment, there was no limit to my wondering, my deposit transaction from the withdraw transaction was a chain of 5 transactions, in fact, mixer paid me 100% of my funds back that I deposited to them.
After I contacted the support service in an impudent manner, they completely returned 4% of my costs to me back, but before that they asked me to delete a message from this thread where I indicated only that the support does not respond 12 hours to my ticket.
From their words they say there was a failure, I do not believe in their words.
I WANT SIMPLY TO WARN USERS THAT THIS SERVICE HAS A RESERVE OF MAXIMUM 1-2 BTC, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING IT. They will simply deceive and scammed when they receive an amount greater than mine, $30,000 is not enough for them.
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
Caution with such services. good luck.
This user overreacted and lost patience because he didn't get an answer to his support ticket after 12 hours. For such cases we write in every support ticket that a response can take up to 48 hours. We ask everyone who has problems or questions to be patient, because we take every ticket seriously. Such actions tend to be negative for both sides.
As in the past, we settle every problem that comes from our side. Our clients who trust us, also those with much higher volume, know that we don't put a lot of time into this project to scam people. Our IT team has told us that at that time there was server maintenance, as there is right now. That's why we activate our Maintenance Wallet for a short period of time, because maintenance never takes long. We have only received one ticket from him in this regard, no other cases are known to us. In case of technical questions, we recommend everyone to send us an e-mail our contact us via the chat option and our support team will forward it to the IT department to guide you to the best solution.
How to prove your letter of guarantee is correct? letter don't have any signature, for kids only this shit?
February 05, 2020, 06:05:58 PM
Some time ago i used this service.
I was interested in the option "Stealth Pool" on this site, I used the service for the intended purpose, the amount is certainly large for me >30,000 USD, given that the fee for this operation is from 4 percent.
I completed the order and after some time received my payment minus 4-5%
percent of my amount, but I went to the blockchain explorer and returned a few transactions up to establish the source of payment, there was no limit to my wondering, my deposit transaction from the withdraw transaction was a chain of 5 transactions, in fact, mixer paid me 100% of my funds back that I deposited to them.
After I contacted the support service in an impudent manner, they completely returned 4% of my costs to me back, but before that they asked me to delete a message from this thread where I indicated only that the support does not respond 12 hours to my ticket.
From their words they say there was a failure, I do not believe in their words.
I WANT SIMPLY TO WARN USERS THAT THIS SERVICE HAS A RESERVE OF MAXIMUM 1-2 BTC, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING IT. They will simply deceive and scammed when they receive an amount greater than mine, $30,000 is not enough for them.
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
Caution with such services. good luck.
I was interested in the option "Stealth Pool" on this site, I used the service for the intended purpose, the amount is certainly large for me >30,000 USD, given that the fee for this operation is from 4 percent.
I completed the order and after some time received my payment minus 4-5%
percent of my amount, but I went to the blockchain explorer and returned a few transactions up to establish the source of payment, there was no limit to my wondering, my deposit transaction from the withdraw transaction was a chain of 5 transactions, in fact, mixer paid me 100% of my funds back that I deposited to them.
After I contacted the support service in an impudent manner, they completely returned 4% of my costs to me back, but before that they asked me to delete a message from this thread where I indicated only that the support does not respond 12 hours to my ticket.
From their words they say there was a failure, I do not believe in their words.
I WANT SIMPLY TO WARN USERS THAT THIS SERVICE HAS A RESERVE OF MAXIMUM 1-2 BTC, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING IT. They will simply deceive and scammed when they receive an amount greater than mine, $30,000 is not enough for them.
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
Caution with such services. good luck.
This user overreacted and lost patience because he didn't get an answer to his support ticket after 12 hours. For such cases we write in every support ticket that a response can take up to 48 hours. We ask everyone who has problems or questions to be patient, because we take every ticket seriously. Such actions tend to be negative for both sides.
As in the past, we settle every problem that comes from our side. Our clients who trust us, also those with much higher volume, know that we don't put a lot of time into this project to scam people. Our IT team has told us that at that time there was server maintenance, as there is right now. That's why we activate our Maintenance Wallet for a short period of time, because maintenance never takes long. We have only received one ticket from him in this regard, no other cases are known to us. In case of technical questions, we recommend everyone to send us an e-mail our contact us via the chat option and our support team will forward it to the IT department to guide you to the best solution.
I will answer briefly, according to the conditions, I must receive the funds of your investors, I am not your investor, I received 100% of my deposited funds, there should never be such failures in your service, this is not permissible. Do not write to me anymore, I have no complaints against you, you returned 4% fee.
I am just warning other users.
Bitcoin gave us such a procedure as message signing, you do not believe my words about reserves of 1-2 bitcoins, ok, prove to other users about your reserves, if you right, i will apologize to you publicly.
February 05, 2020, 04:18:08 PM
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
I would like to verify your claims by checking your Letter of Guarantee.Feel free to PM it to me, but know that this forum uses Cloudflare, which could be a honeypot.
Ok, wait, you know about privnote service? this helps get around cloudflare.
upd: Done
February 05, 2020, 11:47:33 AM
In confirmation of my words, I will provide a user with a good reputation in this forum a letter of guarantee. Only he must confirm that the letter is correct, and the connection between deposit and payment of 100%, do not publishing my addresses and other information.
I would like to verify your claims by checking your Letter of Guarantee.Feel free to PM it to me, but know that this forum uses Cloudflare, which could be a honeypot.
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