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By the way the early access android wallet is out since a few days. I tested it and it works quite well with just some minor bugs, which will be solved probably before Christmas. So there is still a very active development behind this project. But actually not so much community or marketing activity as of now.

Actually there is quite some marketing activity going on on the different social media channels, Rhubarb is doing a great job! Just not on Bitcointalk lol, unfortunately. Check out the other social media channels on the home page.  Smiley
because the number of projects is very high competition, it takes hard work to attract the interest of many people. at least they have to do significant development
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By the way the early access android wallet is out since a few days. I tested it and it works quite well with just some minor bugs, which will be solved probably before Christmas. So there is still a very active development behind this project. But actually not so much community or marketing activity as of now.

Actually there is quite some marketing activity going on on the different social media channels, Rhubarb is doing a great job! Just not on Bitcointalk lol, unfortunately. Check out the other social media channels on the home page.  Smiley
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The name is ALIAS.There were never tokens IMHO. It was an sovereign blockchain since the beginning. They just changed the name from Spectrecoin [XSPEC] to Alias [ALIAS].

By the way the early access android wallet is out since a few days. I tested it and it works quite well with just some minor bugs, which will be solved probably before Christmas. So there is still a very active development behind this project. But actually not so much community or marketing activity as of now.
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I believe the rebranding was probably the best decision made by the team. Alias sounds much better than spectrecoin. Things may be stagnant for the time being but long term I think this rebranding will immensely help.

Rebranding? I have some tokens since Ico times, it was SXUDT and SX something else..
How the thing will look now? Is there new token still ERC-20 or should I make any swap?
Or I will lose my money again:D
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I believe the rebranding was probably the best decision made by the team. Alias sounds much better than spectrecoin. Things may be stagnant for the time being but long term I think this rebranding will immensely help.
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@Gandalf86 Yes Alias is a better name. But that is it. What does Alias stand for? Its just an alias for spectrecoin, the true name of the project.

I think it is meant to indicate the idea of anonymity, even though technically the coin implements true anonymity and not pseudonymity.  Wink  Personally I would have preferred a name that is closer to the idea of hard cash, but hey it's still better than "Spectrecoin" which itself has nothing to do with anonymity or cash at all.


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But even if you think that the name change gives the project such a big advantage, why is the market showing the opposite? Price dropping and order books empty. And the market does not lie.

Don't worry about short term market movements too much. As I said, the name mostly affects the future marketability. Right now, most people still haven't heard of the project so you should not expect an immediate effect on the market.


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Yeah you can try to make a fundraiser for the android wallet. But IHMO this train has long gone. The community has already lost the faith. you can see this on the pathetic every day "Good Morning" greetings by the team and the shill circle at the discord channel.Instead of having a real conversation of what is going wrong, they censored the same what I have freely expressed here at bitcointalk.

Why the team spend so much energy on this stupid rebranding? Which has as you all can see now the opposite effect of what it was supposed to be?
Instead they could have used the money not to hire a stupid marketing agency which just costs money (which they don't have) to simply build the Android wallet???

"What should have been done" is easy to say in retrospective. I'm sure the team is trying to make the best decisions and you never know beforehand how effective certain decisions will be, or when/if they will have a cumulative effect.

I've been investing in cryptocurrencies for a long time and the best advice I can give to you is to buy and forget. Don't count on short-term market effects because the market rarely behaves how we expect it. Just try to help the project while you are having positive expectations, and cut the losses and sell your coins if you are sure that the project will fail. The only thing that matters is long-time development, and right now I think the outlook is quite positive given that there is continuous progress.  Smiley

Btw. today I learned that there is also a roadmap on the new homepage, which is quite interesting: https://alias.cash/technology/roadmap/
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There is no community since over 2 years. The amount of people that are involved and actually push for the project are likely less than 20.

There you go. But why is there no community? Because this activism actions drove people off the project.
Still you might have a misconception of what a community is. If you think a community is something that will thrive the project forward , in case of financial  projects you're wrong. A community will never do a thing. That will always be that way.

A great community is just an indicator for a great project. The one thing you all not understand is that people who did support this project did this because they wanted to make money. And money is a very serious topic for the most people in this world. So listen to this people! Listen to people who have invested thousands of dollars or will invest thousands of dollars. But the team truly is here just for the altruism and do good. yeah, sure... Roll Eyes

The team doesn't get the simple point that when ever it makes an announcement or say something about the project they get a response from the people who are already invested or people who thinking about to invest in this project. They just don't care what these people say. They have no feeling for the overall mood in the community, which is again not the ones who will ever do a thing. The main reason you need a community is that it mirrors your actions and gives you feedback. When you stop listening to them and do things where people can't see the point of doing so they move out and the community spirals down to a bubble. And a bubble will not give you any feedback if you do things wrong, instead you get only confirmation, because you personally can't handle the stress of being attacked.

Ignorance leads to this:

Community did disappear
The team : This is fine

Price drops
The team: This is fine

Order books empty
The team: This is fine

https://i.cbc.ca/1.3958702.1485808668!/fileImage/httpImage/image.png_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/this-is-fine.png

There is zero discussions in Discord or anywhere. There have been talks about changes/releases and whatsoever, but there is none or close to zero feedback since years. Not sure what planet you are on but the main folks talking is the few people of the team who actually care about whats going on.
You re probably just salty because your few coins arent worth as much to retire yet, without putting any effort yourself.
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There is no community since over 2 years. The amount of people that are involved and actually push for the project are likely less than 20.

There you go. But why is there no community? Because this activism actions drove people off the project.
Still you might have a misconception of what a community is. If you think a community is something that will thrive the project forward , in case of financial  projects you're wrong. A community will never do a thing. That will always be that way.

A great community is just an indicator for a great project. The one thing you all not understand is that people who did support this project did this because they wanted to make money. And money is a very serious topic for the most people in this world. So listen to this people! Listen to people who have invested thousands of dollars or will invest thousands of dollars. But the team truly is here just for the altruism and do good. yeah, sure... Roll Eyes

The team doesn't get the simple point that when ever it makes an announcement or say something about the project they get a response from the people who are already invested or people who thinking about to invest in this project. They just don't care what these people say. They have no feeling for the overall mood in the community, which is again not the ones who will ever do a thing. The main reason you need a community is that it mirrors your actions and gives you feedback. When you stop listening to them and do things where people can't see the point of doing so they move out and the community spirals down to a bubble. And a bubble will not give you any feedback if you do things wrong, instead you get only confirmation, because you personally can't handle the stress of being attacked.

Ignorance leads to this:

Community did disappear
The team : This is fine

Price drops
The team: This is fine

Order books empty
The team: This is fine

https://i.cbc.ca/1.3958702.1485808668!/fileImage/httpImage/image.png_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/this-is-fine.png
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@Gandalf86 Yes Alias is a better name. But that is it. What does Alias stand for? Its just an alias for spectrecoin, the true name of the project.
But even if you think that the name change gives the project such a big advantage, why is the market showing the opposite? Price dropping and order books empty. And the market does not lie.

Yeah you can try to make a fundraiser for the android wallet. But IHMO this train has long gone. The community has already lost the faith. you can see this on the pathetic every day "Good Morning" greetings by the team and the shill circle at the discord channel.Instead of having a real conversation of what is going wrong, they censored the same what I have freely expressed here at bitcointalk.

Why the team spend so much energy on this stupid rebranding? Which has as you all can see now the opposite effect of what it was supposed to be?
Instead they could have used the money not to hire a stupid marketing agency which just costs money (which they don't have) to simply build the Android wallet???



There is no community since over 2 years. The amount of people that are involved and actually push for the project are likely less than 20. That certainly doesnt include you.
Instead of complaining your ass off you could simply try and give a hand.
If you re such a smart guy, I m guessing you re leading a very successful crypto project. Guess nobody has heard of it yet.

If doing nothing on a project is your anticipated behavior, guess the team will start to do nothing now. Theres no difference to it, is there?
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@Gandalf86 Yes Alias is a better name. But that is it. What does Alias stand for? Its just an alias for spectrecoin, the true name of the project.
But even if you think that the name change gives the project such a big advantage, why is the market showing the opposite? Price dropping and order books empty. And the market does not lie.

Yeah you can try to make a fundraiser for the android wallet. But IHMO this train has long gone. The community has already lost the faith. you can see this on the pathetic every day "Good Morning" greetings by the team and the shill circle at the discord channel.Instead of having a real conversation of what is going wrong, they censored the same what I have freely expressed here at bitcointalk.

Why the team spend so much energy on this stupid rebranding? Which has as you all can see now the opposite effect of what it was supposed to be?
Instead they could have used the money not to hire a stupid marketing agency which just costs money (which they don't have) to simply build the Android wallet???

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Coin Mage
@someiotanow Not sure why or what you're complaining about?  Huh  Alias is an objectively better name than Spectrecoin. Few people have heard about the project before and after, so in terms of existing brand recognition it doesn't make a difference, but can make a difference in the future. I guess the team had some experiences that brought them to the conclusion that a rebrand would be necessary, even if that does not seem obvious to everyone. It's definitely more than just "activism".

The new wallet looks great, mobile wallet is being worked on. It is planned to be released in December. It's a small project with almost no funding so things naturally take some time. If they hadn't raised coins for themselves through a hardfork, it all would have taken even longer, so people would still be complaining. I assure you that IF they had 200k to spend, things would look much differently.  Wink

You have made the following, valuable suggestions:

  • Android wallet
  • Light wallet
  • Integrating into multicoin wallets
  • Start a fundraiser to speed up development

Those are good points, I think the first three are already on the roadmap (I would add the suggestion of having a public feature roadmap). I will forward this to the team in case they aren't reading here. Smiley
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This project has fallen.Order books are empty. It's even too late to cut your losses.

The problem with this project is their very exaggerated activism.  This team has no patience and has no idea of how marketing and brands truly works.

Spectrecoin or Alias is technically a good project. Should be worth like maybe 20-120 $ at the end of 2021, but the reality is it is worth 0,0000000$ or zero , nada, nothing, less then less and it  will stay there forever . Mark my words.

Last year they have destroyed a lot of trust by inflating the coin to get a little more then 3 million coins for themself. Morally, it's not a bad thing. I actually believed them, that they didn't have made enough money to go on. But it destroyed the spirit so much, that it was almost completely gone.

It may have recovered from this.Maybe.

But then there was their super duper mega REBRANDING!!!!!!! OMG, hold my breath!!

This was the worst and unprofessional thing ever seen in human history.I can tell you that! Nobody, I mean nobody needed this. And the thing is...C'mon man! The thing....you know the thing.....no I'm joking here.

So the thing is that a project who nobody knows can not have a rebranding without a massive (and of course) a very expensive advertisement campaign. By expensive I mean at least like 200k+ $ maybe more.

So what is the alternative to this mess? Look, the situation now is that they again run out of money. They not even have enough to artificially fill up the order books (both sides) to give newcomers a reason to come back. You can not really sell or buy more then like 20k coins. This is ridiculously.

The truth is: If there was no inflating (update to 3.x) and of course no rebranding. Spectrecoin would be in a way better position than it is right now.
Because if they didn't do all this crap, nobody would be pissed of. Nobody would have has a doubt about this project. Activism only brings two things:
Instability and doubt. Did Bitcoin needed to rebrand? NO! Of course not!

The team:
But we didn't have any money..bu hu. So where is the problem? You should have known that in a bear market you can't barely make any money, no matter  what you do. Don't you know what the only way is to overcome a bear market? You just have to wait. There is no way around. You can't force the bulls to come back earlier.

But what you should have done is the following: Absolutely nothing. At least no stupid qt library changes, so that you're up to date with the newest shit. All the other good projects don't do this either. Why? Because it costs time and gains absolutely nothing. It actually is harmful. If you use linux you can't even get the wallet working when you not have the newest version of it, despite that your distro is still deployed until 2023. So it reduces compatibility and costs time.

Why not just concentrate on things that matter? The android wallet for example? Or at least a light wallet? Integrating to one or more of the various multi coin wallets?

Then you could have spectrecoin just leave the way it was and maybe start a funding. So the people would then not donate for the team, but they would donate for the android wallet. Say you need 50k $ for this. People would have give it to you.(If you only wait months, not weeks.) But you didn't have trust in the community and concentrated on the wrong things.

But you didn't even start a fundraiser for the android wallet. You just said that you don't have enough money and then you inflated the coin. people told you back then that it will not work. But you kept on on your broken way. Good luck with that!




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Leo Bitman
              
       Spectrecoin -> ALIAS

Today I am simply announcing the ALIAS birth.  Cool
For those of us who have followed the Spectrecoin project for a long time, this name and image change represents a major step in the right direction.
Spectrecoin.io was born from the hand of Spectre.cash and after years, something unexpected happened, and it returned to the .cash domino.

Now you can see their website at:

  https://alias.cash

 Cheesy I am very happy with these changes and I congratulate all those who made this possible.


(If you find any errors on the new website, please let us know, thank you).
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what does this mean to the project ?

New brand, new name, new colors, new social media, new wallet,...
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what does this mean to the project ?
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It must drive the devs crazy that they can't censor this thread.

The devs are real arrogant scums, join the Discord and see for yourself. 

The wallet keeps breaking and they're more concerned with their new name.



Its an actually self-moderated thread. They can delete anything they want. Lol
What issues are you experiencing? The wallet works flawless for me since years without any issues. And the devs arent arrogant at all. Lol
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It must drive the devs crazy that they can't censor this thread.

The devs are real arrogant scums, join the Discord and see for yourself. 

The wallet keeps breaking and they're more concerned with their new name.

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Still Cannot Get On Your Discord ! But WhoCares ! Btw ! Your Discord Is Dead Anyway ! lol I Got A New Channel Bitcointalk ! lol
 
Don't Hide From The Daftlad l.ol !
Gonna Catch You Sex Offenders Out ! No Joke !
I Am Watching You Brando Leo And Gandalf !
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Coin Mage

Our latest September 2020 newsletter.
Including: Branding update, short updates for Mobile, new Tipbot, Linux and plans for our new Roadmap.

https://twitter.com/Spectrecoin/status/1300842053576859653?s=20

Thanks for the ongoing work, we're all waiting patiently for the 1st of October.  Cheesy

Here is the link for those who don't like Twitter link tracking  Wink  https://news.spectreproject.io/september-2020/
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