Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 188. (Read 676622 times)

49 Yes
https://counterpartychain.io/address/1LC1q733F2NadKq2gHicLd9KNz9vtuENSj
0   No
https://counterpartychain.io/address/18X1A4pri4sRmXPJubUmeS9SWM85ivT2oM

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If it would rely on me I would have shared it. But since it will break basic business morale on their side (of course each contract is negotiated privately and it will be damageable for them to have their terms with us disclosed) I unfortunately can't. Actually it is already pretty good of them the allow the revenue share terms to be disclosed

Sure you mean I am not part of EDS 

The thing I did I would call a polite proposal for the discussion  as I see lot of details are unclear for the community and of course it's up to EDS to decide whether to react for the proposal or ignore it

I think that would be very wrong, companies setup agreements and they expect these to be private.
You and I are not part of SoG nor all4games so you shouldn't even ask for that, in my opinion.
Very pretentious of you to even ask.

The revenue share is  a standard within the industry it is not troublesome it's the way things work.
The game hasn't even launched yet, those BCY could be used in many different ways to setup prizes for tournaments, give rewards to users that test SoG (that is already happening), bounties, etc...
There is still a long way to go for the game to improve and be complete and after that plenty of uses for these BCY.
Having that reserve is necessary, as well as all4games getting their cut of revenue.
As Yodark mentioned if it doesn't work, after a year things can go either way.
I have confidence the team is doing the right thing with this proposal and BCY.
And the fact they ask the community before they take a decision as big as this it is a +1000 for me.

Usually how it works on the industry a game developper provide a game sometime the publisher help to finance it (usually for console game and very expensive games) and the publisher basically sell it. The publisher take a cut usually about 30% to 50%. It's a fair trade since the publisher may allow the product to skyrocket.
The scenario you are suggesting is the following if I'm understanding correctly we give the BitCrystals to the publisher they do their job and they might profit for the increase of value. It's a good idea in essence and I'm sure it will work that way in several years.
But in 2016 it's too early, no multimillion dollar company in the game or show-business industry with well established process will accept to be paid in a blockchain asset. Look how hard is the Bitcoin acceptation so talking about BitCrystals build on top of Bitcoin... They neither have the knowledge or the tools to integrate that in their process. It's also not very wise because a publisher might want to selloff a big bag of BitCrystals right away and have a negative effect to us and BCY holders.
When Spells of Genesis is going to be a planetary hit people in the whole industry might understand that owning digital assets (decentralised trustless, transparent) is worthier than on the good old system (Centralised, Trusted and opaque) people will cry for them.

Also we are very lucky here. They accept to publish Spells of Genesis as it use to blockchain and an open exchange economy. A lot of publisher I talked to liked the game but they said they don't understand the bockchain and the managers will never accept to publish something they don't fully embrace even though it's a great project/idea



The BitCrystals for community are used  for events. Such as the running season 4. Those BCY create a very good traction to keep people playing finding bug and improving the system. As the game release those BCY will be very helpful to keep the game popular and will be a serious advantage over all other games since playing is rewarding.

I doubt it's fair to ask you to vote for anything unknown 

The eligible voters could be offered the private access to the matter

Contracts are private between companies, also SoG is not an Open Source project or a non-profit org.
I doubt it's even fair to ask that. I also doubt all4games will be thrilled if their contract gets shared online.

maybe voters deserve to see and read the contract they're going to vote?

If theirs policy is to get part of revenue, then is troublesome. My point was that there was huge chunk of BitCrystals reserved for Awareness & Promotion. All4Games will be partner that will help SoG with Awareness & Promotion. So should be paid from this bag. 

It adds to my confusion, that I have no ideas for what will/was this 15 millions BitCrystals used. If they will be efficiently used for Awareness & Promotion, then All4Games will not really need to do much but just take part of revenue.



At the end is less important how they will get paid, but that they will do their job.

1) only fiat currency revenue stream from play store and app store (from credit/debit cards, gift cards)?

2) both fiat and crypto currencies from play store and app store, swapbots, shapshift (whatever in the future)?
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We gonna share the blockchain revenue as well.



On the contract is specified they are going to translate the game in Chinese. Though I negotiated 3 territory publishing exception as Japan China and Korea.
Since those 3 are very important markets. As you mentioned China is very important and we need someone with an important knowledge of the market to maximize the impact.
So once the deal is closed with channel 4 we will have much more weight to start discussing with Chinese potential partners.



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Good Yodark, that's exactly what I hoped to listen. I'm pretty sure that a decent debut of sog in the chinese crypto market will boost revenues and bitcrystals price. I'll vote yes

I started to answer this question for a little while but I'm figuring out I don't fully understand your question. Could you elaborate on how BitCrystals for promo could be used ?

Important question, the deal covers all kind of revenue derived from the game, TV derivative and merchandising. Though I mentioned that we are already doing merchandising deals but this will cover the future deals. The deal is for 12 months so after 12 months any of the party can stop the contract. With 3 territories exceptions see below

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1) only fiat currency revenue stream from play store and app store (from credit/debit cards, gift cards)?

2) both fiat and crypto currencies from play store and app store, swapbots, shapshift (whatever in the future)?
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We gonna share the blockchain revenue as well.



On the contract is specified they are going to translate the game in Chinese. Though I negotiated 3 territory publishing exception as Japan China and Korea.
Since those 3 are very important markets. As you mentioned China is very important and we need someone with an important knowledge of the market to maximize the impact.
So once the deal is closed with channel 4 we will have much more weight to start discussing with Chinese potential partners.

Hi Yodark I have a couple of question about this deal.

1)
Which kind of revenue are involved in this deal (and cutted)?

1) only fiat currency revenue stream from play store and app store (from credit/debit cards, gift cards)?
2) both fiat and crypto currencies from play store and app store, swapbots, shapshift (whatever in the future)?

2)
You said that All4games have expertise specially to the “non-bitcoin” sphera.

It's ok, so I suppose that All4games do not have expertise in the crypto comunity around the world.

My question is: Is there any plan to attract chinese crypto addicted customers?
and
What happen to the project for quoting bitcrystals on a chinese crypto market?

Is there anything like a mockery card int his game?  Like a card that acknowledges scam ICO's (definitely not talking about BitCrystals; I love this platform) and gives something like '+15 to distraction' and zero on everything else?

I like the homages to all the major alt coins but messing around with the underbelly of the altworld could be fun too...

Have traded with heunland on several occasions in the past for previous card releases , always offered a great price for people unable to buy the card, i send first and she has always been honest , quick and professional in every trade.

Definitely 100% go with this. BCY is massively under valued.

Good question Febo.

Said that: why are you using the same swapbot for BitsharesCD and ShopKeeperCD?

https://swapbot.tokenly.com/bot/spellsofgenesis/partner-merchant#choose

1. EDS net revenue are BitCrystals after taking half to be burned. They should understand this.

2. If there was 15 millions BitCrystals dedicated for Awareness & Promotion what is 1/3 of all issued BitCrystals. Why they are not used for this? And you offer them part of the pie.