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Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 232. (Read 676886 times)

legendary
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Hallo I have a question about Gutemberg:

Will Gutenberg  be a bot that just transform immediately the net proceed for cards in fiat money from google/apple marketplaces first in btc than in bcy in the secondary market or will it be a system managed by humans?

This is a pretty crucial question because a bot ensure much more transparency in the burning process, a Human Managed System could (i say: could) be used in a malicious manner. For example by collecting a lot of fiat/btc time to time then do a cross order btc to bcy on the secondary market excluding other market participant but Everdream soft. In a couple of words: front running.

The answer is : probably not, the reason is simply because AppStore and Google purchase are reversible while blockchain transactions are irreversible. The question is still open now as we are working to figure out the best option for that. For now we are focusing on blockchain only card issuance. When it will come to large public purchase AppStore, a lead could be to allow people to store their purchase off-chain only. After certain time allowing people to convert their asset into a digital asset.
Another lead is to partnership with a bitcoin transmitter company (cicle, coinbase...) to directly offer Bitcoin or BCY purchase in the game without using the store system

But still this is still open to discussion in any case we are going to have this open and transparent.

Mixing reversible and non-reversible transactions won't work.  A buyer can issue a chargeback for many months after their purchase.  You're better off partnering with a BTC payment company.
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Hallo I have a question about Gutemberg:

Will Gutenberg  be a bot that just transform immediately the net proceed for cards in fiat money from google/apple marketplaces first in btc than in bcy in the secondary market or will it be a system managed by humans?

This is a pretty crucial question because a bot ensure much more transparency in the burning process, a Human Managed System could (i say: could) be used in a malicious manner. For example by collecting a lot of fiat/btc time to time then do a cross order btc to bcy on the secondary market excluding other market participant but Everdream soft. In a couple of words: front running.

The answer is : probably not, the reason is simply because AppStore and Google purchase are reversible while blockchain transactions are irreversible. The question is still open now as we are working to figure out the best option for that. For now we are focusing on blockchain only card issuance. When it will come to large public purchase AppStore, a lead could be to allow people to store their purchase off-chain only. After certain time allowing people to convert their asset into a digital asset.
Another lead is to partnership with a bitcoin transmitter company (cicle, coinbase...) to directly offer Bitcoin or BCY purchase in the game without using the store system

But still this is still open to discussion in any case we are going to have this open and transparent.

Yes I perfectly understand the issue, so for the first time, Gutemberg, after the time needed to avoid refund requests from the customers via payment processors, will convert fiat money in bitcoin and then in Bcy to be burned with a manual process.
Let's say, for example, that every app. store / google play payment cycle and after any period were refunds could be requested, the 50% of the net proceed is converted in bitcoin at a transparent address and then in bcy to be burned.


Bulding a transparent system is actually quite challenging but needed.

good luck whit this.
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Hallo I have a question about Gutemberg:

Will Gutenberg  be a bot that just transform immediately the net proceed for cards in fiat money from google/apple marketplaces first in btc than in bcy in the secondary market or will it be a system managed by humans?

This is a pretty crucial question because a bot ensure much more transparency in the burning process, a Human Managed System could (i say: could) be used in a malicious manner. For example by collecting a lot of fiat/btc time to time then do a cross order btc to bcy on the secondary market excluding other market participant but Everdream soft. In a couple of words: front running.

The answer is : probably not, the reason is simply because AppStore and Google purchase are reversible while blockchain transactions are irreversible. The question is still open now as we are working to figure out the best option for that. For now we are focusing on blockchain only card issuance. When it will come to large public purchase AppStore, a lead could be to allow people to store their purchase off-chain only. After certain time allowing people to convert their asset into a digital asset.
Another lead is to partnership with a bitcoin transmitter company (cicle, coinbase...) to directly offer Bitcoin or BCY purchase in the game without using the store system

But still this is still open to discussion in any case we are going to have this open and transparent.
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Hallo I have a question about Gutemberg:

Will Gutenberg  be a bot that just transform immediately the net proceed for cards in fiat money from google/apple marketplaces first in btc than in bcy in the secondary market or will it be a system managed by humans?

This is a pretty crucial question because a bot ensure much more transparency in the burning process, a Human Managed System could (i say: could) be used in a malicious manner. For example by collecting a lot of fiat/btc time to time then do a cross order btc to bcy on the secondary market excluding other market participant but Everdream soft. In a couple of words: front running.


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legendary
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Yodark, SMS could be a great option.

Oh man can't wait to see the face of them clowns gaming the system. ---> Undecided

Please don't give in.

If you haven't gamed the system then I don't see how you would be asking for 70 BCY that are worth really, really, little.
Get on Poloniex and buy some instead!

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if you waiting for the free bcy, be prepared to wait much longer.
They no interest in attending to this - they too busy organising all these new cards to sell to make btc. They start with 'new rare sog card' and have repeated it so many times niw all these sog csrds are same and mo longer rare when you add all total up. They just milking evetyone for as much btc as they can get - then will delay delay delay ... I no understanding why so many people so stupid and giving their valuable btc for worthless sog crap.

if they have time to release card after card, they have time to distribute free bcy.


Wait. So they have offered to give you free BitCrystals, are you are attacking them for delaying it a little bit. and the BCY is FREE ?
You guys never fail to amaze me  Roll Eyes

Also, Do you realise this is a TCG (Trading Card Game) ? What are they going to concentrate on, if not for the cards?

Thank you Ahmed for your support.

I understand UFCKid your frustration by the delay.
Ahmed is right it's a trading card game, we are producing cards that are limited in number and auditable in the blockchain. For our milestone in April 2016 we need to have 150 cards. So you can expect more of those.
Selling a lot of game card is of course our objective, it is beneficial for us but also for all BitCrystals holders because ultimately it gives more value to the BitCrystals. Selling cards is healthy for our company and our company doing healthy sales benefit players AND BitCrystals owners.

Since we are doing pretty well in the sale the BCY value is increasing and more BCY are burned.

We implemented an edit button in the spells of genesis website to allow to insert the wallet address. But we received some mass registration from people who try game the system. Unfortunately sorting this out takes us some unproductive time. People trying to manipulate free BitCrystals distribution intention is probably not to to get game assets to play or share with friends, but make short term profit on dumping them on an exchange, and that benefit no one except himself.

Someone suggested to make an SMS validation and I think it's a good idea we are going to explore that.

Again sorry for the delay but I believe taking time to sort this out is ultimately benefiting everyone and we will take the time it requires to have a fair distribution.







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legendary
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Wait. So they have offered to give you free BitCrystals, are you are attacking them for delaying it a little bit. and the BCY is FREE ?
You guys never fail to amaze me  Roll Eyes

Also, Do you realise this is a TCG (Trading Card Game) ? What are they going to concentrate on, if not for the cards?


They're trying to bully the admin into honoring their fraudulent multi-registrations.
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when the distribution of 70 BCY free?

if you waiting for the free bcy, be prepared to wait much longer.
They no interest in attending to this - they too busy organising all these new cards to sell to make btc. They start with 'new rare sog card' and have repeated it so many times niw all these sog csrds are same and mo longer rare when you add all total up. They just milking evetyone for as much btc as they can get - then will delay delay delay ... I no understanding why so many people so stupid and giving their valuable btc for worthless sog crap.

if they have time to release card after card, they have time to distribute free bcy.


Wait. So they have offered to give you free BitCrystals, are you are attacking them for delaying it a little bit. and the BCY is FREE ?
You guys never fail to amaze me  Roll Eyes

Also, Do you realise this is a TCG (Trading Card Game) ? What are they going to concentrate on, if not for the cards?
newbie
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when the distribution of 70 BCY free?
next week

next week pass already.
Sad

Maybe 1 more week, or 2 more. Maybe june 2017.
newbie
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when the distribution of 70 BCY free?

if you waiting for the free bcy, be prepared to wait much longer.
They no interest in attending to this - they too busy organising all these new cards to sell to make btc. They start with 'new rare sog card' and have repeated it so many times niw all these sog csrds are same and mo longer rare when you add all total up. They just milking evetyone for as much btc as they can get - then will delay delay delay ... I no understanding why so many people so stupid and giving their valuable btc for worthless sog crap.

if they have time to release card after card, they have time to distribute free bcy.

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EverdreamSoft Team


ZAIFCARD - NEW SOG PARTNER CARD

We are bringing you a new partner card - ZAIFCARD, designed exclusively for our Japanese partner Zaif,
popular bitcoin exchange and payment service.


ZAIFCARD, issued in a limited supply of 1 000 units, will be released on Thursday, October 15th at 3pm CEST.
For 1 hour, the card will be available for its initial price of 300 BCY!Then the price will increase as follows (if not
indicated, all the times are in CEST):


Thu, October 15th, 4 pm - Fri, October 16th, 3pm: 400 BCY
Fri, October 16th,3pm - Mon, October 19th, 3pm: 600 BCY
Mon, October 19th, 3pm - Fri, October 23rd, 3pm: 800 BCY
Fri, October 23rd, 3pm - Fri, October 30th, 3pm CET: 1 000 BCY
From Friday, October 30th, 3pm CET further on: 1 200 BCY






legendary
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Price is going well. Wink Btw, can I sell my genesis card by some way?

You can offer it on DEX or sell it there to those that have highest buy offer. https://sogassets.com/dex/

Right now lowest sell  offer is 200 XCP , highest buy offer is 40 XCP  . I doubt there is much volume and i would suggest you to hold cards at least till game actually start.
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Price is going well. Wink Btw, can I sell my genesis card by some way?
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How can I withdraw bounties in the website http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/
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when the distribution of 70 BCY free?
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Hey Yodark....
No ZaifCard annuncement here:
http://spellsofgenesis.tumblr.com/post/131154271395/zaifcard-new-sog-partner-card

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