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grn
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new SP20 price! $795
with discount code and shipping of 2 units (3.4TH): 4.5 BTC

7* bitmain S3+ units (3.4 TH) with coupons and shipping this week = 4.7 BTC
4* Bitmain C1 (4TH) with watercooling and shipping this week = 5.3 BTC   (4.64 for 3.5TH)

wrong math

1x SP20 price! $795+shipping   1700GH/s
2x C1 price   $800+shipping    2000GH/s

Which one is more GH/s ?


Which one requires extra components not mentioned in the price?

Nice comeback, Bick Tongue

BOTH!
hero member
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.. or keep the windows closed in the winter  .. 15 dec C to 20 deg C is decent enough. One does not need to evacuate all the heat if they don't need to.
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I have had 39 SP30s running 2.5.12 so far for about 12 hours 16 minutes with no apparent issues. If I see no problems with 2.5.12 by next morning, I will probably move the rest of our machines over to it. Otherwise, I will probably move everything back to 2.4.23.

I've had a plethora of "disabled (bist cant start, stuck X)" errors on the remaining 100 or so SP30s we have running 2.5.6 in the mean time. It seems every few hours, I have to restart cgminer on 5% or 10% of our machines to get them back to full hashrate. Very annoying, but so far the issue has always been resolved by restarting minergate.

I've also had several reports of machines on 2.5.6 showing half hashrate at the pool even though I see full hashrate. These issues have always been restarted by a minergate restart.

I saw some much more serious problems on 2.5.7 during the 36 hours we had machines using that version. We saw about 10 machines get "Loop serial failed x" error messages (where x is a loop number, between 0 and 9 inclusive) and fail to start until one or sometimes two ASICs on that loop were disabled. After a few hours, many of these ASICs could be enabled again, but about 25% of the ones that failed are still non-operational. Currently, I think there are 9 ASICs which we lost on 2.5.7 which have not recovered.

It's possible that the potential ASIC-damaging bug in 2.5.7 might still be present in 2.5.12. I haven't seen any indications of it yet, but I also haven't had enough machines running on it for long enough to be certain. On 2.5.7, I saw the loop serial failed ASIC damage thing with about 5% of our machines per day. At that rate, there's only about a 63% chance that I would have seen it if it were present at the same rate in 2.5.12 with 39 machines running half a day.
It is now looking like the issues we've been seeing in our datacenter with the potential ASIC-damaging bug was not related to version 2.5.7 per se, but is instead temperature-related, and we only noticed it now because the temperatures in our DC only recently started getting really close to 0°C. Version 2.5.13 does not appear to fix these issues. Zvi is looking into it further.

The other two bugs were definitely firmware related, so you should still avoid 2.5.6 and 2.5.7.

Findings are still tentative and provisional, and investigation is ongoing.
Jtoomim, thank you for helping debug firmware issues we'll have problem recreating in Isarel Smiley
Also for keeping the miners in top condition.

Guy

The issue seems to be really temperature dependent; Indeed at low temperature (e.g. 5°C intake) some ASICs can't start and must be disabled. This is an hardware issue; anyway a good software fix may be to add an option to delay the activation of the problematic ASICs at the time, when the machine is at an acceptable temperature; And turn off these ASICs again when minergate restart to avoid machines crashes.
legendary
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Version 2.5.12 became the official, 2.5.6 removed and 2.5.13 is the latest experimental.
2.5.12 - different handling of BIST and Murata flow - improves stability.
2.5.13 - sets default (after factory reset) values to 1275/288 in SP3x/SP2x. Redirection bug fixed. Handling of ambient temperatures lower then 0c added.

 

So which firmware should I install on an Emerson PSU set I currently have 2.5.1 and its still unstable  not getting more than 3TH and asics keep failing with that loop error.

I rue the day I updated my firmware when I was happily hashing at around 4.5 TH for months.



Is there a process to roll back?

you can roll back contact Zivi there is a URL where you can download the firmware directly i.e the version you want , in my case I thnk it was too late some of my asics are permenatly damaged I think.

Is there any possibility of those with damage hardware to get coupons for discounts on the newley priced sp20s ?  I'm down around 250GH of hashing power now
legendary
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Which one requires extra components not mentioned in the price?

Neither.

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included Smiley
legendary
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for the last time, you cant factor in future bitcoin value in the calculation.

You need to consider future bitcoin value if you have to pay for hosting(and/or electricity) with fiat. Unless of course you pay for lifetime hosting up front, or have free hosting. If you pay for hosting with the bitcoins mined, then it becomes really easy to calculate ROI.
legendary
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Version 2.5.12 became the official, 2.5.6 removed and 2.5.13 is the latest experimental.
2.5.12 - different handling of BIST and Murata flow - improves stability.
2.5.13 - sets default (after factory reset) values to 1275/288 in SP3x/SP2x. Redirection bug fixed. Handling of ambient temperatures lower then 0c added.

 

So which firmware should I install on an Emerson PSU set I currently have 2.5.1 and its still unstable  not getting more than 3TH and asics keep failing with that loop error.

I rue the day I updated my firmware when I was happily hashing at around 4.5 TH for months.



Is there a process to roll back?
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1102
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Version 2.5.12 became the official, 2.5.6 removed and 2.5.13 is the latest experimental.
2.5.12 - different handling of BIST and Murata flow - improves stability.
2.5.13 - sets default (after factory reset) values to 1275/288 in SP3x/SP2x. Redirection bug fixed. Handling of ambient temperatures lower then 0c added.

 

So which firmware should I install on an Emerson PSU set I currently have 2.5.1 and its still unstable  not getting more than 3TH and asics keep failing with that loop error.

I rue the day I updated my firmware when I was happily hashing at around 4.5 TH for months.

legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
new SP20 price! $795
with discount code and shipping of 2 units (3.4TH): 4.5 BTC

7* bitmain S3+ units (3.4 TH) with coupons and shipping this week = 4.7 BTC
4* Bitmain C1 (4TH) with watercooling and shipping this week = 5.3 BTC   (4.64 for 3.5TH)

wrong math

1x SP20 price! $795+shipping   1700GH/s
2x C1 price   $800+shipping    2000GH/s

Which one is more GH/s ?


Which one requires extra components not mentioned in the price?

Nice comeback, Bick Tongue
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Someone is sitting in the shade today...

I stopped arguing with that idiot long time ago. Hes too fcking dumb to understand this simple concept. Infact i say most noobs buying hardware right now are actually expecting BTC price to rise in order for ROI.

Not sure why the aggression. I am not advocating hardware purchase to everyone, but it shouldn't be a surprise that hardware is clearly being sold to people in areas of cheap electricity (<$0.10/kwh) and/or those who are very bullish on their calculations of roi regarding the future bitcoin value and hashrate.

Personally, I pay $0.14/kwh and have not purchased hardware in the last two months. In fact, I've been liquidating much of my hashrate due to the good resale value in BTC

for the last time, you cant factor in future bitcoin value in the calculation.

corrected
newbie
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My sp30 runs better at 21c then it does at 0 or 10c
legendary
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I got nothing either I paid the full $1200 price for an sp30 (using my $800) coupon from a my sp30 august order that was not up to specs .

I would have put together the BTC to buy 2 sp20s at this discount price so sad Sad
legendary
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@ Sponds ... Just an observation ...

The new price on the SP20 at $795 with an additional $80 discount for repeat customers only lasts for 72 hours.

The sales email says "Not sure which power supply to select? We'll be adding a PSU guide in the next couple of days..".

Now PSUs have been discussed here on the forum, but not all of your customers are members here. If it takes 48 hours to post PSU recommendations on your site, then only 24hrs remain to order (presuming the PSU guide does get listed in 48hrs).

People will need time to research costs etc.


You are lucky to get a discount. I don't know who is a repeat customer (do you need to order every single machine?), because I am a customer, but did not get any emails yet.
sr. member
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@ Sponds ... Just an observation ...

The new price on the SP20 at $795 with an additional $80 discount for repeat customers only lasts for 72 hours.

The sales email says "Not sure which power supply to select? We'll be adding a PSU guide in the next couple of days..".

Now PSUs have been discussed here on the forum, but not all of your customers are members here. If it takes 48 hours to post PSU recommendations on your site, then only 24hrs remain to order (presuming the PSU guide does get listed in 48hrs).

People will need time to research costs etc.



legendary
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Hmm, I was thinking about ordering another S4. Now I'm considering 2x SP20s. Do the SP20s ship out same day?

Edit: Sorry, reading fail. Site says shipments start on Nov. 18th.
legendary
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{snip raving}

Not sure why the aggression.

Shouldn't worry, its his modus operandi. Could be mild Tourettes mixed in with narcissistic tendencies. I don't put many people on ignore.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe

I stopped arguing with that idiot long time ago. Hes too fcking dumb to understand this simple concept. Infact i say most noobs buying hardware right now are actually expecting BTC price to rise in order for ROI.

Not sure why the aggression. I am not advocating hardware purchase to everyone, but it shouldn't be a surprise that hardware is clearly being sold to people in areas of cheap electricity (<$0.10/kwh) and/or those who are very bullish on their calculations of roi regarding the future bitcoin value and hashrate.

Personally, I pay $0.14/kwh and have not purchased hardware in the last two months. In fact, I've been liquidating much of my hashrate due to the good resale value in BTC
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.

Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this.

Thanks  Smiley
In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box.
Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board.

Thanks for the reply. Is the firmware still under development, or is it now final? Also, are they p2pool compatible - as are your other models?

Thanks again.
Zvisha always continue to tweak and improve the firmware. It's p2pool compatible.

Guy
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.

Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this.

Thanks  Smiley
In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box.
Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board.

Thanks for the reply. Is the firmware still under development, or is it now final? Also, are they p2pool compatible - as are your other models?

Thanks again.
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.

Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this.

Thanks  Smiley
In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box.
Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board.
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