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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 303. (Read 1260290 times)

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I have to say. That's a funny photo shop. Only sad it is my own cloud mining ;-(.


So if you want to call our setup crap fine,


So what was the root cause of the fire?   Are these new pictures now?  Is this your brand new setup (after the fire or before?)  Looks good!   Cheers
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About network cables. They are not a fire hazard. And like this it isn't the most beautiful thing but easy to access and it makes sense in Btc land. Since things change quick.
Fire suppression system. Yeah if I could turn back time....  
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well it seems you did everything right except for the network wiring ( hurts my eyes to look at that) and  not having an automated fire suppression system.  With that much money invested I'm curious as to why you skipped that peice ?
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A fan probably caught fire then died, causing a group of miners to go up in flames.... =P
Fans are annoying like that..
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I have to say. That's a funny photo shop. Only sad it is my own cloud mining ;-(.

Anyway for all the stupid talk, it was NO overload on any cables or transformers. We Had 200% margins on the cables, No cheap or quick job. No density or heat problems. All sp30 and other miners where running cool and fine. No fire has started by the miners for sure, or any electrical problem in the setup.

Beautiful setup from the pictures. Sorry for your loss. Did you manage to find out what exactly started the fire? What about the 2 security guards? What is their version? What were they doing? It seems that there was a very slow response from them since everything got burned down. Were they playing Solitaire?
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I have to say. That's a funny photo shop. Only sad it is my own cloud mining ;-(.

Anyway for all the stupid talk, it was NO overload on any cables or transformers. We Had 200% margins on the cables, No cheap or quick job. No density or heat problems. All sp30 and other miners where running cool and fine. No fire has started by the miners for sure, or any electrical problem in the setup.

Evap cooling enough. We did not even have to run them on cooling since its was that cool already https://i.imgur.com/swcqUxb.jpg

So if you want to call our setup crap fine, https://i.imgur.com/dmShVnC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UcPMi6j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9pEiqoW.jpg
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Really sad for their lose, everybody should learn something from this. prevention is better than cure.

Lesson - use a real data centre.  Something that has proper cooling/cabling/installation/racks/fire suppression.
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Now, that is a lot of burn.
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MrTeal I'm sorry you got crap electricity prices!

The 10c was just easy for comparative point! round number and also what many are paying for electricity. It's also a exaggeration to make a point for investing more in safety; something like better safe than sorry!

The actual price was 7c/kw. Lower prices can be found in parts of north america, scandinavia, etc

Nothing found atm and the fire was on 14october...
Probably bad electrical work in a hot environment.
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are these sp10's? man what a mess!
I don't suppose any of those could be 'salvaged'Huh          heh can see ebay already..cheap sp10's!

They're SP30s and I'd think most will be salvagable after repair. Some of the cable inlets on the PSUs might need replacing and I'd think that the soot may need cleaning off internally. Other than that, should be good to go in a new location. Probably not.
They're salvaging some of them. The biggest problem are the PSUs and the problematic lead time on those.

Did we find out root cause analysis on this one?  Was it facility related?  PSU related?  bad electrical work?  something fall over?  too much heat?

legendary
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So there are no fire risks? Phew  Grin

Show me one SP10 or SP30/31/35 or SP20 that had sparkles or fire. The units, not the building housing them. We've seen all kinds of proof from Neptune, Titans and BA's miners. None from SP-Tech.
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Absolute humidity will almost always be higher at 30C than 0C, though relative humidity can vary and that is what would cause an issue for condensation. If it's really muggy you might be worried about that, but mining equipment will almost always be hotter than the surrounding air you shouldn't have many condensation issues unless the conditions are extreme.

Not saying you couldn't put them in a place where you could run into issues, but if your gear has a low enough ΔT that it is able to run in a comfortable range with 30C (or even higher) ambient the benefits of the colder climate wouldn't come close to outweighing paying 67% more in electricity costs.

'Almost' isn't enough if you'r running with no assurance. 30min of power loss and bad conditions could be met. It's very rare example, of course, but I'll not skip this with so many money invested. My cents  Wink
That argument is just as valid in a cold climate as a hot one though. If the power goes out and conditions change such that the gear is below the dew point you'll get condensation regardless of whether it's at 30C or 0C.
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Really sad for their lose, everybody should learn something from this. prevention is better than cure.
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Absolute humidity will almost always be higher at 30C than 0C, though relative humidity can vary and that is what would cause an issue for condensation. If it's really muggy you might be worried about that, but mining equipment will almost always be hotter than the surrounding air you shouldn't have many condensation issues unless the conditions are extreme.

Not saying you couldn't put them in a place where you could run into issues, but if your gear has a low enough ΔT that it is able to run in a comfortable range with 30C (or even higher) ambient the benefits of the colder climate wouldn't come close to outweighing paying 67% more in electricity costs.

'Almost' isn't enough if you'r running with no assurance. 30min of power loss and bad conditions could be met. It's very rare example, of course, but I'll not skip this with so many money invested. My cents  Wink
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why the fuck would you make a DC in bangkok! where is 28 degrees Centigrade at 9AM, right now!!! WHY!!!
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Miners don't particularly mind hot ambient, and because you're not running AC neither do you particularly. Instead of replacing the air with an infinite amount of 20C air, you're replacing it with an infinite amount of 30C air.

I'll drive constantly at 200miles/hour just because my car can do that! I dont give a fuck about road conditions or tires...

better 10cents/kw in a 0C temperature climate than in that location with +30C temperature and 6cents/kw!
Based on what? If you're able to bring enough 30C air in to feed the units and keep them cool, there's no real need for the 0C air. Yes you could run the fans a little slower and save a bit on your cooling costs, but you're talking maybe a percent on of your budget. Nowhere near enough to justify 10c vs 6c.

Teal, you'r forgetting that 30°C air is a lot wetter than 0°C, expecially in some places. You can't cool down 5MW of electronic HW with 30°C air  without think about humidity. 
Also 30A are enough for a bad contact to burn a wire, and a fan that blows air direct only helps fire to catch on. That is why in industial plants (not btc related) A/C , thermography, proper electrical distribution and extinguish systems are used.
If it's true that this farm was using 5MW, the lowvoltage threephase distribution system should have handled about 8000-9000 Amps , no peanuts.
Absolute humidity will almost always be higher at 30C than 0C, though relative humidity can vary and that is what would cause an issue for condensation. If it's really muggy you might be worried about that, but mining equipment will almost always be hotter than the surrounding air you shouldn't have many condensation issues unless the conditions are extreme.

Not saying you couldn't put them in a place where you could run into issues, but if your gear has a low enough ΔT that it is able to run in a comfortable range with 30C (or even higher) ambient the benefits of the colder climate wouldn't come close to outweighing paying 67% more in electricity costs.
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