Topic: [ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer - page 39. (Read 736772 times)

Please Help!

I bought ~190 SuperNET token one year ago.  As I didn't have time to trace the progress  during this year.
I didn't know what to do now. I just found there are SuperNET (UNITY) come out now.
But I still own the token. How can I convert token to UNITY. Or my token are useless?!

Please help.

If I could butt in here gentlemen,



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As long as the current version is open sourced then we can make a solution that is independent of google, but of course we wont be able to keep up with the development. Still the chrome app is based on emscriptem, which was independently developed. google "just" made a unix OS around it along with getting ~90% adoption and a bunch of javascript magic to make it all work. I am very grateful for them to allow my C code to run as JS/html

Maybe I was unclear by saying the user adoption issue is solved. I didnt mean that we have millions of users now! What I meant to say was that it is now possible to obtain millions of users, while before the chrome app it was not possible. We just need a slew of popular apps, say like games.

Now the vast majority of funds are still in the SuperNET accounts, though the bear market has whittled down the fiat value. The burn rate for SuperNET is on the low side and we can last for years on the funds raised. We are developing what we said we would, yes delays on release due to the increasing scope of the project. Since most large software projects are delayed, again this seems not anything specific to SuperNET. And we are doing tech that has never been done before so any strict timeline has never been issued

As to your claim that we will never get mass adoption. All I can say is that never is a very long time, and you are premature in concluding that SuperNET wont achieve scale.

James

Firstly James, don't get so butthurted all my points were in fact not a complaining, but factually correct assessment of the situation, and no, you didn't solve the adoption issue as no real world users use your platform, while your USP was last year that you have the recipe for that mass adoption issue. All rational persons knew that you won't be able to get mass adoption for Supernet as even Bitcoin struggles with mass adoption in big time. Despite 6 years of development, media hype and many hundred millions $ VC investments BTC has only 100k active users. What I am saying is, it was an irresponsible act to collect money for something that's never going to happen.

Moving to the technical issue


I think you are absolutely correct, and I have to admit you are right, the fact that Chromium is open source makes the comparison to MSFT and AAPL meaningless. It's a very good point indeed and I am glad that I posted that question! And yes, you are right, governments can't do a lot if all modules (including the Chromium) of the project remain open sourced.
I still believe Google alienates many users of the MS and Apple fanboy base, but if you are comfortable with that and you don't see that as an issue then it's up to you.

 

yes, i did think it through.

http://www.chromium.org/ it is open source. if google goes too evil, we can make a fork of the browser. Now comparing google's open source to MSFT and Apple, which are by and large closed source, this is no comparison at all.

The chrome app works in windows and Mac and ultimately if it works, then users will be able to try it out.

you complained about no adoption, I have solved the adoption issue. So now you complain that google are evil communists. Ignoring the politics, it is about the software. chrome apps was the best tech to achieve mass adoption and whatever cooperating google does with govts, well what exactly will they do about an open source project?

James

@James

Put aside the real world adoption issue which - as you pointed out correctly - not a Supernet specific issue and all other rants with regards to your project, would you explain the readers of this thread what makes you think that the Chrome Apps is a proper platform for crypto projects? Is it really the preferred direction to lock crypto projects into the environment of an enterprise such as Google, which is getting farther and farther from the original "we are not evil" sentiment?
I still remember the 1996 times when Microsoft rolled out ActiveX controls, which is conceptually not much different than the Chrome Apps. Many developers were excited and started developing/integrating ActiveX controls. However, the offering of ActiveX controls was contributed a lot to the troubles of Microsoft, the propaganda against the IE hegemony, it pretty much made the case for Java and the anti-Microsoft sentiment for the next 15 years. I understand the scrutiny about Chrome Apps isn't at the level of ActiveX (yet), but isn't a risk to lock crypto into such company specific platform? Google demonstrated its willingness to cooperate with governments, even they having no issue to cooperate with the corrupt communist Chinese government, do you really think it is a good idea progressing crypto with Chrome Apps?
Yes, the installation process is greatly simplified with Chrome Apps, but apart from the above issues there are always large number of users who prefer not to use Google products, the loyal Microsoft and Apple fanboys  just to mention two of those user groups. I think you alienate a large percentage of the users with the selection of the platform. Did you think through that Chrome Apps direction?

The following are the install instructions for devs:

launch chrome with  --allow-nacl-socket-api=localhost command line arg

git clone https://github.com/jl777/SuperNET_API
cd SuperNET_API
tools/httpd.py -C . -p 7777 &
now you can go to http://localhost:7777

the above is what it takes to install the dev version of the chrome app
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for end users it is a matter to click on a chrome store URL: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/supernet-api/bfofcmnhfkdohmmfpakhfpfapeddigbl/related

that is from 10 days ago but it shows how easy it is to install. it really is one click to install and then another to run it. Oh, it is cross platform, wherever chrome runs

not sure about android or iOs yet, but there are build instructions for them: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/chrome_apps_on_mobile

if anybody is up for seeing if it works, that would be great


James

i can confirm that any game that has defined states and items that can be mapped to numbers can be made into a pangea type of solution

the state machine is embedded in the code though, so it isnt as easy as updating a data table, though with a refactoring that would be possible.

Anyway, first step is to get the first version working and monetized.
Then we will also need to make good documentation and an API kit that is accessible.

With all of SuperNET ported into a chrome app, it is now possible to create JS bindings for a functionality set that is far greater than libuv (node.js) and there wont be any need to install anything serverside. it will all be a pure JS HTML page.

This is the breakthrough crypto needs for mass market adoption. If anybody is up to making the JS bindings, I can offer a bounty. you need to be familiar with node.js (so we can make it a smooth transition)

James

I have been helping with pangea by creating and integrating the GUI as well as a lobby. Having spent time with the building and running the code, as well as playing with the new chrome extension, I am absolutely blown away with how supernet is coming together. The implementation of Pangea is currently using every feature that has been coded in supernet over the past year in order to work, p2p orderbooks, p2p communications, decentralized state machines (I can imagine this tech can be used to create any kind of p2p game where a game or map can be randomly generated across nodes), smart contracts, plugins... the list goes on and on... What is happening behind the scenes is absolutely staggering and actually seeing the code all working together in a coherent package is more then enough proof that jl is not running an exit scam. He is working WAY to hard on producing code unlike I have ever seen before. It simply makes no sense. Build the code and actually run it for yourself instead of just blabbing your ignorant mouths, there is no way you can deny the progress that is being made here if you actually take the slightest bit of effort to look into it.

Recently I have been dealing with the user adoption issue. I have ported SuperNET core into a chrome app. It is still a bit rough, but github.com/jl777/SuperNET_API is the repo for that effort. There wont be any need to install anything once this is done, just click and install a chrome app.

Last year I integrated nanomsg into SuperNET and recently bitcoin has integrated zeromq into bitcoin. nanomsg is the next generation of zeromq created by the devs of zeromq. I predict that in a year, most all of the popular crypto will be in the form of chrome apps, especially since the SuperNET_API is a ready made development enviroment with full crypto support, from gen1, curve25519 and even quantum resistant encryption tech.

With a chrome app, it is literally one click to install things like pangea. Maybe this will be getting some "real world" adoption. Currently BTC is the only crypto with any measure of real world adoption. The fact that SuperNET hasnt achieved it yet, is not anything that cant be said about all non-BTC crypto projects.

so if your metric is "anything that isnt BTC has no adoption and is therefore a scam", well it seems there is no logic to convince you otherwise. So I wont waste my time and I will just continue solving the tech issues crypto has that prevents mass market adoption. Like a popular game that fiat is not having a viable solution that can be installed with one click and run inside any chrome browser.

So instead of being a failure, I have been innovating across the crypto tech landscape and the increased scope has necessarily delayed the completion. Now there is a working SuperNET core as a chrome app, we are getting much closer to being able to get a larger user adoption. With Pangea and InstantDEX GUI making rapid progress now we should get two revenue makers

James

Oh, you know how many times I heard that mantra from the shills and cheerleaders in the Bitbay, CIRC and other scam threads, that I am criticising them because I want to buy cheap coins? The scammers' first line of defence is to post the nonsense that the criticism is FUD. And then, the delusional coin owners who holds the scam bag repeat the mantra the we are FUDers. Such delusion gives them hope that somebody wants to buy their absolutely worthless digital excrement.
They can delude themselves as much as they want that we are lining up to buy their coins. Whatever they delusion is, nobody is interested in buying something which have zero chance for real world usage.

It's true that almost no one uses Supernet or any other accompanying tech. But then again, who uses Monero apart from some devotees?

QFT.

That's a great summary of what has and (more importantly) has not happened.

But when you state these facts, the NXT and SuperNet and Bit-coin-Dark baghodlers will say you are "spamming" and/or "trolling."

Don't expect reply from James. He is busy in producing the 100,000 lines of code. You know the 100,000 lines code which he and the whole Supernet crew is talking about when you question where is the product. Sadly, as there is precisely zero chance the product will be used by anybody in the real world, the 100,000 codes which he is banging on about is absolutely worthless.

I am pointing this out as a year ago he was asking my money for this shamble in the Vericoin thread, and it is not very nice a) collecting money from people and then don't deliver the product b) what you deliver worth nothing. Some call such money collecting process as scam, I just say it is really not nice.

Fortunately my comments last year saved a lot of people from being scammed and from losing 50% of their bitcoins.
This is a fact. If they listened to what was said they saved their bitcoins.
But you do not consider that a wise advice to bitcoin users, neither for humanity right?
According to you they should give you all their money and all their bitcoins, lose them all and open their asses right away, right?

Now you, holder of shitty coins, go to your shitty NXT forum and scam all NXT users over there.
This is bitcoin land and shitty coins will be exposed.

Once again users are urged to not invest in super shits like this. And if they are invested, they should sell the super shit and concentrate their efforts elsewhere.

R.I.P Supernet. R.I.P. jl777. R.I.P shitty ass. R.I.P. shitty _mr_e.

Bye, bye, rest in peace shitty net.

Factually he is actually correct.

Though I understand James is a super talented man and an exceptional software developer, also there is no doubt he is the greatest vaporware asset wizard in the history of crypto. James not only failed in monetizing on his Supernet idea, but most importantly he failed even deliver the technology (not that if he would deliver could make any differences as for real world businesses' interest is zero in Supernet).  
After one year, those assets used by absolutely no real world businesses nor real world applications. The sole purpose of the assets has been reduced to trading the assets. But no surprise there: all rational individuals understood from the beginning that Supernet will be nothing else but the money collection party for James and Pump & Dump playground of a few, with precisely zero chance to challenge Bitcoin. Asset holders sell the digital excrement to each other and to wannabe rich, naive, new investors to squeeze out the last few dollars from the crypto market. That's all.

That's Supernet - exactly what I predicted last year on the day of IPO when James stormed into the Vericoin thread to ask money from investors.

What is it that makes you so angry inside? I find it purplexing that you feel so much anger and hatred towards people who are simply working hard to try and build something. Is it because you are sad that you have nothing valuable to offer the world and you need to do this as an outlet? Or perhaps you are just one of those people who take joy in other peoples misery? Regardless, your toxic attitude brings nothing of value to the discussion, and is a net negative on humanity as a whole. Please try and spend your time helping rather then hurting and I think you will gain much more happiness from it.

 YOU- are not a messenger.

Attacking the messenger does not eliminate reality and facts.

Assume the facts shitty ass. Your name says it all.

R.I.P Supernet. R.I.P. jl777. R.I.P shitty ass.

Bye, bye, rest in peace shitty net.

And you all made that up when you made a new account?

Shitty fudder, go back to the swamp