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Topic: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! - page 122. (Read 490229 times)

legendary
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Our agreement was in relation to an "all or nothing" scenario.

Either the developers release a working platform and get the coins, or they don't and investors get refunded. We have now moved in to the arbitration window of our agreement, and have imposed a 48 hour deadline to resolve the current problems. Had they released nothing before now, they would not have this window, the agreement would have been voided before now. The issues occurred after launch, and that is why they have an extension.

What if the people asking for refunds are less than the ones willing to wait for the devs to resolve issues past the 48 hours?  

In that scenario, we would have to seek legal counsel (and are planning to do so tomorrow) to see if the agreement can be amended while active, to allow for a partial refund policy based on investor demand.

Just burn the refunded coins in that situation.  That would bring the coin back to life fast.

but but

Dan Wasyluk
danosphere
Team Manager & Coding Genius

Coding Genius, not Coding GOD.  He might be able to code well (and even the best will have issues), but it does not mean he can see into the future.  Just relax, ~ puff on one of these and chill.  Some of you are so uptight.

Well, They're uptight becouse this coin had a really big IPO. When someone pays in advance he wants to get the planned product. Simple as that.

You think REAL VC investors are looking for a one day doubling of their money on Real Life companies? ROFL you tarded.
Man, seriously don't throw me shit here with some "REAL VC investors" (lol). I'm not talking about profits, not talking about overnight richness. I'm just telling You  that devs FUCKED UP the launch, so people has every freakin' right to be worried/angry.

What you are doing is stroking the flames and destroying the value of the investments people have made.  Real investors don't shit on their own brand, they pump it up, Keep Quite, or at the MINIMUM pretend like they believe in the goals to profit down the road.  lol like I said tarded.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. First thing - there's no real investors in crypto. Just speculators. Second thing - like I said when "real investor" pays in advance (That's the problem I got - There was a huge amount of money paid IN ADVANCE). - he wants to get the planned product.  If  he don't get it, then he can be angry and judge other people's work.
Sure, I get it, You are supporter, You want SYS to succed. That's ok. But stop blurring the reality. Facts remains the facts. I'm not FUDing etc. - I just don't like when people call others Fuders, becouse they are not jumping in the air all the time.
BTW. Stop insulting people, becouse they got other opinion than Yours - it's really childish.
That's all mate, I'm out of that discussion.
Cheers Wink
full member
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PETITION FOR MOOLAH TO PROVIDE REFUNDS OF THIS EPIC FAIL!!!

Definitely. The team had 4 months to make several tests before launching this "coin". It seems they have never did it.

Agreed

i will sign it too

+1

+1
hero member
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On the honesty evaluation note, actually these devs should be an example for all altcoin devs terms of honesty and integrity. The fact that the devs returned the 250 BTC indicates these are quite nice and honest young men.
member
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Honestly this thread should be locked until the devs get this fixed. Everyone is crying like a baby. Just be patient.

crying because every second im loosing money i invested!!!
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 10
PETITION FOR MOOLAH TO PROVIDE REFUNDS OF THIS EPIC FAIL!!!

Definitely. The team had 4 months to make several tests before launching this "coin". It seems they have never did it.

Agreed

i will sign it too

+1
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
PETITION FOR MOOLAH TO PROVIDE REFUNDS OF THIS EPIC FAIL!!!

Definitely. The team had 4 months to make several tests before launching this "coin". It seems they have never did it.

Agreed

i will sign it too

ALL NOOB ACCOUNTS!?! ROFL
full member
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so... my question apparently got lost in the lawsuit discussion. Lets try again....

For those of us that had a transaction in progress before all this and had our SYS "trapped in transit" on the blockchain, will we be getting our coins back and how will we go about this? I had 9k SYS in transit from Bittrex to C-Cex that never arrived. How will these situations be addressed?

i also have the same problem. and i have 300k stuck

If nothing else, I'll help with that when it all gets sorted. But honestly there's a dozen guys working behind the scenes on the code right now that could also easily solve this problem right now. I know it's worrysome, but this can be fixed without too much trouble once the network is sorted out.

Mind, this only applies to coins you had before everything started forking. Coins minted after the forking, or transferred *to* you after the forking (not imported from moolah) might not be recoverable.

I thought there was only one coder on the team? coderboo?

I'm not a sys dev. I'm just an investor when it comes to sys. I have done some coin dev work in the past, but I've learned my lesson. I still can't help supporting other devs in their endeavors.
full member
Activity: 148
Merit: 100
PETITION FOR MOOLAH TO PROVIDE REFUNDS OF THIS EPIC FAIL!!!

Definitely. The team had 4 months to make several tests before launching this "coin". It seems they have never did it.

Agreed

i will sign it too
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Honestly this thread should be locked until the devs get this fixed. Everyone is crying like a baby. Just be patient.

+1, too many kids
newbie
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Honestly this thread should be locked until the devs get this fixed. Everyone is crying like a baby. Just be patient.
mm4
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
PETITION FOR MOOLAH TO PROVIDE REFUNDS OF THIS EPIC FAIL!!!

Definitely. The team had 4 months to make several tests before launching this "coin". It seems they have never did it.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
so... my question apparently got lost in the lawsuit discussion. Lets try again....

For those of us that had a transaction in progress before all this and had our SYS "trapped in transit" on the blockchain, will we be getting our coins back and how will we go about this? I had 9k SYS in transit from Bittrex to C-Cex that never arrived. How will these situations be addressed?

i also have the same problem. and i have 300k stuck

If nothing else, I'll help with that when it all gets sorted. But honestly there's a dozen guys working behind the scenes on the code right now that could also easily solve this problem. I know it's worrysome, but this can be fixed without too much trouble once the network is sorted out.

Mind, this only applies to coins you had before everything started forking. Coins minted after the forking, or transferred *to* you after the forking (not imported from moolah) might not be recoverable.

Edited: this problem can't be sorted 'right now', it can be sorted out once everyone's on the right chain, which is what's getting fixed right now.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Our agreement was in relation to an "all or nothing" scenario.

Either the developers release a working platform and get the coins, or they don't and investors get refunded. We have now moved in to the arbitration window of our agreement, and have imposed a 48 hour deadline to resolve the current problems. Had they released nothing before now, they would not have this window, the agreement would have been voided before now. The issues occurred after launch, and that is why they have an extension.

What if the people asking for refunds are less than the ones willing to wait for the devs to resolve issues past the 48 hours?  

In that scenario, we would have to seek legal counsel (and are planning to do so tomorrow) to see if the agreement can be amended while active, to allow for a partial refund policy based on investor demand.

Just burn the refunded coins in that situation.  That would bring the coin back to life fast.

but but

Dan Wasyluk
danosphere
Team Manager & Coding Genius

Coding Genius, not Coding GOD.  He might be able to code well (and even the best will have issues), but it does not mean he can see into the future.  Just relax, ~ puff on one of these and chill.  Some of you are so uptight.

Well, They're uptight becouse this coin had a really big IPO. When someone pays in advance he wants to get the planned product. Simple as that.

You think REAL VC investors are looking for a one day doubling of their money on Real Life companies? ROFL you tarded.
Man, seriously don't throw me shit here with some "REAL VC investors" (lol). I'm not talking about profits, not talking about overnight richness. I'm just telling You  that devs FUCKED UP the launch, so people has every freakin' right to be worried/angry.

What you are doing is stroking the flames and destroying the value of the investments people have made.  Real investors don't shit on their own brand, they pump it up, Keep Quite, or at the MINIMUM pretend like they believe in the goals to profit down the road.  lol like I said tarded.
sr. member
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I don't want to spread FUD. But I have to say: this start is a fail of the year.

If you wanna say something at least say something new. Repeating same bullshit over and over again is just spam. Last 100 pages.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
so... my question apparently got lost in the lawsuit discussion. Lets try again....

For those of us that had a transaction in progress before all this and had our SYS "trapped in transit" on the blockchain, will we be getting our coins back and how will we go about this? I had 9k SYS in transit from Bittrex to C-Cex that never arrived. How will these situations be addressed?

i also have the same problem. and i have 300k stuck
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
so... my question apparently got lost in the lawsuit discussion. Lets try again....

For those of us that had a transaction in progress before all this and had our SYS "trapped in transit" on the blockchain, will we be getting our coins back and how will we go about this? I had 9k SYS in transit from Bittrex to C-Cex that never arrived. How will these situations be addressed?
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 10
guys relax. either devs will fix or moolah gives u cash back. there is no way to loose here anything only to stay at same level you were or to get more when SYS comes working

yeah dev will fix everyone dumps and you lost all your investment due to the dev fucking up i feel you
hero member
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http://fuk.io - check it out!
guys relax. either devs will fix or moolah gives u cash back. there is no way to loose here anything only to stay at same level you were or to get more when SYS comes working
sr. member
Activity: 328
Merit: 250
We have all their names and we can probably find their addresses.

Let's file a lawsuit because this is bullshit. We expected professionals, but these are amateurs. What is a coding genius....only one of them can code.

Funny thing is also that their lead coder is anonymous.

File a lawsuit against Dan and the others

That would be a waste of time and money, and no lawyer would take the case on. You have no case against the Syscoin team from a legal perspective, the funds you invested are currently held in escrow with a verifiable 3rd party - and that 3rd party has moved to the mediation/arbitration stage of the escrow process.

Should the Syscoin team fail to make significant verifiable progress, including a fix of the major issues, then Moopay LTD will begin the refund process.

Thats very good news Slex. Glad Moolah are the Escrows here, like someone said before, you get a +1 whichever way this plays out really, you are doing a good job.

One Tip - Don't feed the trolls Wink
newbie
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We have all their names and we can probably find their addresses.

Let's file a lawsuit because this is bullshit. We expected professionals, but these are amateurs. What is a coding genius....only one of them can code.

Funny thing is also that their lead coder is anonymous.

As you post with that account name.

What the fuck is that for an argument?
I was just stating the truth.
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