[ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! - page 329.

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Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 08:12:32 AM

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on July 20, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

Why would the presale be tradeable? It is a PRESALE, meaning the coin isn't even available yet. The team has been very open and has made very clear the terms of the presale (no refunds unless the team fails to deliver, coin will launch in mid-August, etc). If you couldn't do 5 minutes of reading this prior to investing then maybe you shouldn't be investing at all? All I see here is you having a change of mind and crying "scam" at the developers and Moolah when they've been nothing but transparent and responsive this whole time. You can't just wait until next month to drop your investment for a healthy profit?

No I can't wait and it was a miscommunication. Dan told me it'll be tradable upon launch. He meant the wallet launch not the pre-sale launch tho

There have been other coins and feeshares which have been tradable during presale so why not this one? Are the devs worried that their coins are not worth what they are asking for?

If I am selling at a 2% loss on the same day, why wouldnt a dev buy it back if the coin was legit? btw the guy above said yes we can trade but he didnt offer a way to trade. That's all I am asking

Tell me a way how we can trade our investments. I'm still waiting for a response. Thanks

Seeing how man people are asking about this , it seems that even now people jump to any train without reading where it goes and hoping for the moon.

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Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on July 20, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

Why would the presale be tradeable? It is a PRESALE, meaning the coin isn't even available yet. The team has been very open and has made very clear the terms of the presale (no refunds unless the team fails to deliver, coin will launch in mid-August, etc). If you couldn't do 5 minutes of reading this prior to investing then maybe you shouldn't be investing at all? All I see here is you having a change of mind and crying "scam" at the developers and Moolah when they've been nothing but transparent and responsive this whole time. You can't just wait until next month to drop your investment for a healthy profit?

Thank's for that. You are completely right. We never claimed that this would be trade-able right away, you WILL be able to trade it as soon as we lauch. Moolah.io will be our exclusive first exchange at launch but you will not have to use their platform if you do not want to, it is your choice to trade your coins however you like, once you have actually received your coins. If you see an escrow provider that allows trading during the escrow phase, then I would most-likely call that a scam, something like that is way to dangerous and leaves an open-door for fraud.

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Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on July 20, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

Why would the presale be tradeable? It is a PRESALE, meaning the coin isn't even available yet. The team has been very open and has made very clear the terms of the presale (no refunds unless the team fails to deliver, coin will launch in mid-August, etc). If you couldn't do 5 minutes of reading this prior to investing then maybe you shouldn't be investing at all? All I see here is you having a change of mind and crying "scam" at the developers and Moolah when they've been nothing but transparent and responsive this whole time. You can't just wait until next month to drop your investment for a healthy profit?

no I cant wait. Its not looking like the way I hoped it would. Asking for trading my own investments is no big deal. Buy it off me if you are that excited about this.

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Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on July 20, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

Why would the presale be tradeable? It is a PRESALE, meaning the coin isn't even available yet. The team has been very open and has made very clear the terms of the presale (no refunds unless the team fails to deliver, coin will launch in mid-August, etc). If you couldn't do 5 minutes of reading this prior to investing then maybe you shouldn't be investing at all? All I see here is you having a change of mind and crying "scam" at the developers and Moolah when they've been nothing but transparent and responsive this whole time. You can't just wait until next month to drop your investment for a healthy profit?

No I can't wait and it was a miscommunication. Dan told me it'll be tradable upon launch. He meant the wallet launch not the pre-sale launch tho

There have been other coins and feeshares which have been tradable during presale so why not this one? Are the devs worried that their coins are not worth what they are asking for?

If I am selling at a 2% loss on the same day, why wouldnt a dev buy it back if the coin was legit? btw the guy above said yes we can trade but he didnt offer a way to trade. That's all I am asking

Tell me a way how we can trade our investments. I'm still waiting for a response. Thanks

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Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

Why would the presale be tradeable? It is a PRESALE, meaning the coin isn't even available yet. The team has been very open and has made very clear the terms of the presale (no refunds unless the team fails to deliver, coin will launch in mid-August, etc). If you couldn't do 5 minutes of reading this prior to investing then maybe you shouldn't be investing at all? All I see here is you having a change of mind and crying "scam" at the developers and Moolah when they've been nothing but transparent and responsive this whole time. You can't just wait until next month to drop your investment for a healthy profit?

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I'm asking again. Please offer us a method to trade our investments. Why are you ignoring my question? I thought the investments were going to be tradable

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Quote from: snipsnoop on July 20, 2014, 07:31:47 AM

Quote from: tigomjir on July 20, 2014, 07:21:59 AM

how you expect investors to trust moolah for 1500 BTC given their total trade volume averages around 2 BTC?

Have they handled anyother escrow arrangement of similar magnitude?

why don't you have escrow arrangement with established players like Anon136?

We looked long and hard at escrows.
In the case of Anon136, he stopped providing his escrow services to focus on other projects.

As for others the requirement was that we had full personal details on them in case of any issues. Too many stories of funds going missing, scams etc.

Moolah fits us perfect.

To quote from the OP

Quote from: danosphere on April 27, 2014, 03:31:25 PM

Moolah Partnership

The Syscoin Team is pleased to announce that we've officially partnered with Moolah (Moopay LTD) (http://moolah.io). Moolah is securing the Syscoin presale via their escrow platform. We have a dedicated partnership in place so there will be a custom portal specifically for Syscoin presale investors to reserve their coins. Once the Syscoin Team successfully delivers/launches Syscoin, Moolah will assist in distributing the Syscoin to investors via pub/priv keys that can be imported directly into your Syscoin wallet.

This partnership goes beyond just the presale and launch of Syscoin.
Moolah offers a host of crypto related services to the global marketplace, they are not just limited to US customers. They have a trading platform, a merchant platform, and an escrow platform already in place and are in the process of building numerous other services for the crypto space. They have never once been hacked. This is a strategic partnership not only to provide a secure escrow platform for presale investors but also to allow for long term growth of Syscoin via an immediate ecosystem of services enabled by Moolah. Moolah is currently in the process of transitioning all of their core services to their V2 platform for assured reliability- Syscoin will be available through these services. Moolah's V2 trading platform will also be the first exchange to offer Syscoin.

There are natural intersections between the services Syscoin offers and the platform capabilities Moolah can directly implement on top those distributed services. We look forward to exploring these possibilities with the Moolah team. Together we could bring the first decentralized large-scale marketplaces, digital certificates, datastore, and other such services to the mainstream market. We're excited to announce this partnership and move forward with such a well known pillar of the crypto community!

This partnership goes far beyond what any "normal" escrow can provide us with.
As for trusting them? You don't get to register with FinCEN if you are a mickey mouse company.
Show me a "normal" escrow that has that

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Moolah is currently incorporated in two countries. In England and Wales we're incorporated as Moopay LTD, under company number 08920347. In the United States, we're incorporated in the state of Wyoming as moolah.io INC; which is registered with FinCEN with BSA ID 31000047132300.

Our exchange is our latest service (72 hours old), and our smallest one by a considerable margin.

We have over 90,000 customers on our consumer and merchant platforms.

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Quote from: tigomjir on July 20, 2014, 06:30:40 AM

will syscoin be added to other exchanges after launch?

Same question.

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Quote from: tigomjir on July 20, 2014, 07:21:59 AM

how you expect investors to trust moolah for 1500 BTC given their total trade volume averages around 2 BTC?

Have they handled anyother escrow arrangement of similar magnitude?

why don't you have escrow arrangement with established players like Anon136?

We looked long and hard at escrows.
In the case of Anon136, he stopped providing his escrow services to focus on other projects.

As for others the requirement was that we had full personal details on them in case of any issues. Too many stories of funds going missing, scams etc.

Moolah fits us perfect.

To quote from the OP

Quote from: danosphere on April 27, 2014, 03:31:25 PM

Moolah Partnership

The Syscoin Team is pleased to announce that we've officially partnered with Moolah (Moopay LTD) (http://moolah.io). Moolah is securing the Syscoin presale via their escrow platform. We have a dedicated partnership in place so there will be a custom portal specifically for Syscoin presale investors to reserve their coins. Once the Syscoin Team successfully delivers/launches Syscoin, Moolah will assist in distributing the Syscoin to investors via pub/priv keys that can be imported directly into your Syscoin wallet.

This partnership goes beyond just the presale and launch of Syscoin.
Moolah offers a host of crypto related services to the global marketplace, they are not just limited to US customers. They have a trading platform, a merchant platform, and an escrow platform already in place and are in the process of building numerous other services for the crypto space. They have never once been hacked. This is a strategic partnership not only to provide a secure escrow platform for presale investors but also to allow for long term growth of Syscoin via an immediate ecosystem of services enabled by Moolah. Moolah is currently in the process of transitioning all of their core services to their V2 platform for assured reliability- Syscoin will be available through these services. Moolah's V2 trading platform will also be the first exchange to offer Syscoin.

There are natural intersections between the services Syscoin offers and the platform capabilities Moolah can directly implement on top those distributed services. We look forward to exploring these possibilities with the Moolah team. Together we could bring the first decentralized large-scale marketplaces, digital certificates, datastore, and other such services to the mainstream market. We're excited to announce this partnership and move forward with such a well known pillar of the crypto community!

This partnership goes far beyond what any "normal" escrow can provide us with.
As for trusting them? You don't get to register with FinCEN if you are a mickey mouse company.
Show me a "normal" escrow that has that

Quote

Moolah is currently incorporated in two countries. In England and Wales we're incorporated as Moopay LTD, under company number 08920347. In the United States, we're incorporated in the state of Wyoming as moolah.io INC; which is registered with FinCEN with BSA ID 31000047132300.

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Quote from: pandher on July 20, 2014, 07:07:59 AM

A top 10 coin at launch itself ?

I smell greed in the air

it will actually be 35th if all other coins keep their current market cap, that is assuming the presale gets sold out, which i dont think it is going to happen so in reality it will be less

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Quote from: tigomjir on July 20, 2014, 07:21:59 AM

how you expect investors to trust moolah for 1500 BTC given their total trade volume averages around 2 BTC?

Have they handled anyother escrow arrangement of similar magnitude?

why don't you have escrow arrangement with established players like Anon136?

Also, offer a way to trade our investment

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how you expect investors to trust moolah for 1500 BTC given their total trade volume averages around 2 BTC?

Have they handled anyother escrow arrangement of similar magnitude?

why don't you have escrow arrangement with established players like Anon136?

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Quote from: slex on July 20, 2014, 07:15:57 AM

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Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 04:50:25 AM

Did it start trading on moolah yet?

Syscoin is not released yet it's still in a Presale State. The entire presale (both phases together) ends when we reach Aug. 16 or 1500BTC, whichever comes first - Then it will be available for Trade exclusively on trade.Moolah.io

What? We were told it'll be available for trading immediately. I call scam. I want a refund

I think it's not a scam. But the ROI is too low.
The trading will begin after Aug 16th.

Sigh, ROI is indeed way too low.

moolah is an illiquid exchange. 24 hr total trade volume is 2 BTC

yes and moolah is so shit it doesnt even have a way to recover lost username / password

Please do not spread false information. You were already informed that this was a UI bug.

https://moolah.io/resetting/request

What? I was not informed about it. I did not find any way to recover username or password which is obviously quite shocking. Got it now thanks.

Also I am asking for a way to trade my own invested capital. Nothing false or bad about it.

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Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 04:50:25 AM

Did it start trading on moolah yet?

Syscoin is not released yet it's still in a Presale State. The entire presale (both phases together) ends when we reach Aug. 16 or 1500BTC, whichever comes first - Then it will be available for Trade exclusively on trade.Moolah.io

What? We were told it'll be available for trading immediately. I call scam. I want a refund

I think it's not a scam. But the ROI is too low.
The trading will begin after Aug 16th.

Sigh, ROI is indeed way too low.

moolah is an illiquid exchange. 24 hr total trade volume is 2 BTC

yes and moolah is so shit it doesnt even have a way to recover lost username / password

Please do not spread false information. You were already informed that this was a UI bug.

https://moolah.io/resetting/request

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Quote from: snipsnoop on July 20, 2014, 07:09:58 AM

Quote from: pandher on July 20, 2014, 07:07:59 AM

A top 10 coin at launch itself ?

I smell greed in the air

I smell innovation unlike 99% of the other coins out there

.

Yes, i can see the innovation, but overpriced innovation to be specific

Good Luck

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Quote from: wtman on July 20, 2014, 07:10:56 AM

I thought the investments were tradable immediately but clearly moolah is pretty shit.

I'll sell my investment at 98% of the buy price. If anyone wants to buy, pm me

We don't mind you selling, but keep up that language and your posts will be deleted.
Nothing constructive about it.

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I thought the investments were tradable immediately but clearly moolah is pretty shit.

I'll sell my investment at 98% of the buy price. If anyone wants to buy, pm me

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Quote from: pandher on July 20, 2014, 07:07:59 AM

A top 10 coin at launch itself ?

I smell greed in the air

I smell innovation unlike 99% of the other coins out there

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Stagnation is Death

A top 10 coin at launch itself ?

I smell greed in the air

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