[ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! - page 73.

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Quote from: TheMilkman on August 20, 2014, 05:51:13 AM

Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

This should no longer be discussed. We want the escrow back NOW.
Moolah, if you want to save your reputation, DO IT NOW.

I agree that selling below ICO prices is pointless. Moolah promiset that we will be refunded for this failure - let's watch them if they stick to their word. If you sell now, under the ICO price, you won't get your money back. Just wait few hours - I hope that Moolah will announce terms of escrow return ASAP, becuse devs seem to ignore this matter and instead they are just tweaking the code, which is pointless when you have hundreds of mad people with rakes by your doors.

awais3344

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go on moolahs twitter. thy already said theyll refund. although i want this coin to work out so i can sell at 1k satoshis

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Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

This should no longer be discussed. We want the escrow back NOW.
Moolah, if you want to save your reputation, DO IT NOW.

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Quote from: thetruth123123 on August 20, 2014, 05:49:37 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:44:23 AM

Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

Quote from: thetruth123123 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:45 AM

Quote from: john312 on August 20, 2014, 05:28:15 AM

Give us our BTC back!

The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.

Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!

This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold.

You never agreed to any deadline. Only a full refund if not working product was deilvered as deemed by escrow Moolah. Read between the lines you idiots. Just hold your god-damn bags, nut up and sell when it goes back to ICO price. Stop whinging.

You're right, a non working product has been launched.

See bolded.

thetruth123123

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Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:44:23 AM

Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

Quote from: thetruth123123 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:45 AM

Quote from: john312 on August 20, 2014, 05:28:15 AM

Give us our BTC back!

The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.

Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!

This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold.

You never agreed to any deadline. Only a full refund if not working product was deilvered as deemed by escrow Moolah. Read between the lines you idiots. Just hold your god-damn bags, nut up and sell when it goes back to ICO price. Stop whinging.

You're right, a non working product has been launched.

mothermole1

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Quote from: awais3344 on August 20, 2014, 05:45:01 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:15 AM

Quote from: fox19891989 on August 20, 2014, 05:38:39 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

See the OP

Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether?
A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally:
Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014.
The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins.
After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all.
Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option.

In what time period? How long was specified by devs and Moolah?
It wasn't.

if the 5 featuredid not work. lol man. you cant read? do you think that we would wait one more month to get 5 features working?

My point is, you never agreed for it NOT to be 1 month to get 5 featuers working. Moolah will NEVER refund you now. Realise this and move on.

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Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).
Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

Mantiscoin is a joke. You have no business criticising sys - https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-MNS

agx56

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Quote from: niothor on August 20, 2014, 05:33:32 AM

But , again even if and even if not there is nothing in this about buy walls. And buy walls won't help this coin that was may point.

I'm more concerned with this:
https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin/graphs/contributors
Like a rush to fix it in the last days after nothing has been done for months.

You dont get how git works. Those are merge requests, meaning the actual commit date is not visible to you. The actual changes were happening over the course of many months, as you can derive from what has changed one thing after another.
Check other altcoins, they upload one thing and say "initial commit" the day of the the release. its a BONUS, not a bad thing that syscoin devs let you look into how they developed it.

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Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:15 AM

Quote from: fox19891989 on August 20, 2014, 05:38:39 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

See the OP

Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether?
A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally:
Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014.
The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins.
After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all.
Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option.

In what time period? How long was specified by devs and Moolah?
It wasn't.

if the 5 featuredid not work. lol man. you cant read? do you think that we would wait one more month to get 5 features working?

mothermole1

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Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 05:42:39 AM

Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

Quote from: thetruth123123 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:45 AM

Quote from: john312 on August 20, 2014, 05:28:15 AM

Give us our BTC back!

The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.

Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!

This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold.

You never agreed to any deadline. Only a full refund if not working product was deilvered as deemed by escrow Moolah. Read between the lines you idiots. Just hold your god-damn bags, nut up and sell when it goes back to ICO price. Stop whinging.

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I'm warming to the idea of setting a buy wall - not necessarily to support investors, but for the dev team to demonstrate their commitment and vote of confidence in the long-term future of this coin. Kind of like when a publicly owned company does a share buy back in the stock market.

Anyway, the bigger concern after the wallet fix (is it 100% fixed or still not fully functional at this point) is that the same folks and the same development process that gave us this botched launch is still going to be in place afterwards unless the devs offer a mangement/process change that makes a repeat inconceivable.

I think that + a "share buyback" would do a lot toward bolstering confidence that the ineptitude of the past are less likely to be repeated.

Prices generally reflect market expectations - if devs are serious about saving this coin and still care about it after getting the escrow money (assuming they do), they need to restore the market's expectations about what the coin and its dev team will be capable of going forward.

MantisCoinDev

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Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).

Oops. Top job moolah.

Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.

thetruth123123

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Quote from: john312 on August 20, 2014, 05:28:15 AM

Give us our BTC back!

The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.

Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!

This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold.

mothermole1

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Quote from: fox19891989 on August 20, 2014, 05:38:39 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

See the OP

Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether?
A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally:
Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014.
The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins.
After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all.
Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option.

In what time period? How long was specified by devs and Moolah?
It wasn't.

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Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

See the OP

Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether?
A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally:
Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014.
The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins.
After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all.
Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option.

mothermole1

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Quote from: awais3344 on August 20, 2014, 05:34:56 AM

Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

it was on moolah's page dumbass. they deleted it. it said escrow refund is only possible if the listed 3 features are notdelivered working. something like that. the wallet is a total wreck. and moolah said they will refund. so shut up. sorry that you bought at 800 satoshi. lol

And was there a time limit specified? Was that AT LAUNCH those features had to be specified. If i contacted my attorney and presented THAT CONTRACT he would say, it was never specified in full, ergo. you signed a contract open to interpretation by the ICO seller.

Still, no one can show me proof of any of their refund assertions beyond the 48 3 feature limit.

I bought at 700, sold at 810. Bought at 600 sold at 650. Bought at 400 sold at 470. Who's the idiot.

MantisCoinDev

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Quote from: MantisCoinDev on August 20, 2014, 04:23:05 AM

can i sum up a few proven facts

dev 250btc buy support is eaten
devs owns 16.3% of current coin supply
ontop of the 16.3% premine, devs buy wall(250btc) brought up another 15% of sys (49m)
devs currently hold 31.3% of current coin supply. (not saying they will dump - just stating facts)
devs refuse to be transparent and post a simple rich list.
devs like deleting posts like this, as they are scared.
i have never had anythig to do with mantiscoin, this username was a joke betwen friends.

Moolah escrow is being a dog act. Terms werent met, refund it buddy. We all know your personally invested 120btc in syscoin (I thought the max per investor was 25btc?) As your twitter confirms this. Why was 95btc over the max allowed to be purchased by you? Are you special? So refunding us would mean you personally loose your investment, wouldnt want to do tht now would we? Greedy fuckers.

awais3344

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right now. only the believers are left. we believed the coin and did not sell at the prices. pnd groups bought and sold only for one reason.
most of the investors wanted to buy a product. a working product.
anyways. moolah said already they will refund in any disaster. so no panic for me

awais3344

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Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

it was on moolah's page dumbass. they deleted it. it said escrow refund is only possible if the listed 3 features are notdelivered working. something like that. the wallet is a total wreck. and moolah said they will refund. so shut up. sorry that you bought at 800 satoshi. lol

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Quote from: mothermole1 on August 20, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

Quote from: Qiuyue201 on August 20, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.

MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!

Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.

Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?

Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming.
Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied?
Where?

Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah.

Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions.

Just read terms of presale + posts by Moolah.

Pumpers and dumpers sold as soon as possible. Loyal ICO buyers were stuck with coins that are becoming less valuable every day, because ICO failed. We demand Moolah to do the one right thing - cancel the ICO as promised.

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