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Topic: [ANN] TeamRedMiner - Optimized Win/Linux AMD GPU Miner for lyra2z and phi2 - page 23. (Read 85791 times)

jr. member
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@kerney666, what about MTP algo, do you plan to add it?

The main part of MTP is dead simple, I'm truly amazed there aren't good open source miners out there already.

For the algos we add to this miner, we only select those where we truly feel we can add enough persistent value to warrant a higher-than-normal dev fee. MTP should/will have good miners shortly, or it's really an embarrasing fail for open source in crypto. Moreover, with the hack they've added with a binary stratum protocol to keep effective bandwidth down, this is a ton of work for us in this miner. Otoh, it would be very simple to add it to e.g. a sgminer clone. Last, I think AMD cards will have a hard time beating Nvidia from an efficiency perspective for this algo, which also means adoption might be much smaller than you'd hope for as a miner dev.

Given all this, the probability that we would ever get the time spent on MTP back is tiny, so we've opted not to do it. Tbh, if I had the time I would rather spend it on an open source implementation.

 

Kerney666 its been more than 2 months, i think a high fee can be warranted still no stable amd miners available bro.

Yeah, I'm still amazed. I haven't kept track of what djm34 and fancyIX ended up with though, is it still crap? Last I checked they were getting closer to the nrs I would expect, 580 maybe 1.4-1.6 MH/s, Vegas should be able to do 3.1-3.5 MH/s. You need the compute for MTP, so 64s will outperform 56s.

Only djm34 is working on the kernel for now. So there is no "they".
Anyway, I have a stable release:
https://github.com/fancyIX/sgminer-phi2-branch/releases
jr. member
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Do you have a ready mod BIOS, or only manual tuning? What program is relevant for this today, I have not modified the BIOS for a long time (the last time it was Hawaii and I don’t remember exactly which programs were used). Maybe you have some link with manual of this question?

No, I don't have bios ready to mine lyra right on - I still gotta use wattman to set core clocks and voltages. For bios editing check here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/67-amd/1592384-fiji-bios-editing-fury-fury-x-nano-radeon-pro-duo.html Though you dont really need it unless your cards can be ulocked, as far as I know only Asus Strix and Sapphire Tri-X(not Nitro) can.
newbie
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So you  switch core voltage in bios to +/- 1000mV(reprogramming stock bios)? Or just in any software program in OS(like -200mV, i think what it is not possible for stable work)?

I have modified bios yeah: unlocked 60CU, applied 400Mhz mem timings to 500MHz, undervolted for gaming, but for mining in most cases you can even lower on voltage with the same clock. And since I had to go lower on clock(P7-state) as well I just adjusted P-states and voltages in Wattman. I dunno if OverdriveNTool supports Fiji, when I was using one of my furies in my PC it hadn't existed yet). But AB is definitely no-go for tuning Fury since it doesn't read its P-states - basically same thing as curve OC for nvidia.

Do you have a ready mod BIOS, or only manual tuning? What program is relevant for this today, I have not modified the BIOS for a long time (the last time it was Hawaii and I don’t remember exactly which programs were used). Maybe you have some link with manual of this question?
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I appreciate the advice. I will take a look.
Thanks! Cheesy

I'm sorry again for the offtopic.
Just confirm that with the recommendation of pbfarmer I have gone from 1.60gps to 1.95gps in Sapphire Pulse RX580.
Thanks! Grin
jr. member
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VEGA FE 93 MH/s
VEGA 56 86-89 MH/s

anyone know how to control the fan manually? my vega FE runs at 40%, I'd like it to run at 50%. tia

Thanks! I’m getting around 95 MHps with Vega64 on Windows 10, so I’ll think I’ll try Linux for probably same HR and better stability (hopefully).
newbie
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Hi, anyone running Lyra2rev3 on Linux with Vegas? If so, can you share your hash rate, thank you.

VEGA FE 93 MH/s
VEGA 56 86-89 MH/s

anyone know how to control the fan manually? my vega FE runs at 40%, I'd like it to run at 50%. tia
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Would you guys be able to dev mimblewimble miner? Seriously lacking a good AMD one to compete  Tongue

I too would like.
It must be the only thing missing from TRM! Grin

Regards
There's actually Mimblewimble/Cuckaroo/Cuckatoo's but also (and in my opinion even more important) all the x16 algos that need a massive amount of love over on the AMD side.
It's a lot of work, so I can understand the lack of progress from either AMD devs... but arguably it's the suite of algos that AMD GPUs could profit most from in terms of optimisations.

We're basically stuck with Wildrig, which is still grossly unoptimised, unfortunately.

I am currently using the official client (GrinGoldMiner) to mine GRIN (I do not know if there are other currencies that have that algo).
I'm not sure that the performance is good, but the price of the coin is worth it ...

Getting a bit off-topic, but GrinPro is the newer, shinier v of GGM, and has much better perf on polaris/ellesmere, slightly better on vega.  If you want c31, go w/ minerbabe (you can dl just the mining binary - kbminer - and use it on a standard linux install if you want, but it takes some trickery.) 

But also throwing my vote in - a proper MW implementation for AMD would be great.

I appreciate the advice. I will take a look.
Thanks! Cheesy
jr. member
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So you  switch core voltage in bios to +/- 1000mV(reprogramming stock bios)? Or just in any software program in OS(like -200mV, i think what it is not possible for stable work)?

I have modified bios yeah: unlocked 60CU, applied 400Mhz mem timings to 500MHz, undervolted for gaming, but for mining in most cases you can even lower on voltage with the same clock. And since I had to go lower on clock(P7-state) as well I just adjusted P-states and voltages in Wattman. I dunno if OverdriveNTool supports Fiji, when I was using one of my furies in my PC it hadn't existed yet). But AB is definitely no-go for tuning Fury since it doesn't read its P-states - basically same thing as curve OC for nvidia.
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After 2h5m no rejected  Grin impressive!

Thank you! After filtering for a few random rejected shares due to new jobs there shouldn't really be any rejects though, so we're just where things should be Smiley.  

Also, the kernels are designed to handle a downclock of mem all the way down to 300 MHz on Polaris cards and 500 MHz on Vegas, this without hashrate being affected. It probably won't save more than 1-2W per gpu, but always something.

Lower mem clocks on their own don't do much for power use, because the true mem voltage is static - set in the vbios.  However, you can actually save some pretty significant power on vegas if running mem <= 800, just by disabling mem_p3.  p3 only scales down to 1107 SOC, while p2 will go to 800 (maybe less - haven't tried,) and a lower SOC allows lower core voltage.

I've not seen similar SOC clock/voltage design on polaris, so don't think the same can be said for that platform.
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Would you guys be able to dev mimblewimble miner? Seriously lacking a good AMD one to compete  Tongue

I too would like.
It must be the only thing missing from TRM! Grin

Regards
There's actually Mimblewimble/Cuckaroo/Cuckatoo's but also (and in my opinion even more important) all the x16 algos that need a massive amount of love over on the AMD side.
It's a lot of work, so I can understand the lack of progress from either AMD devs... but arguably it's the suite of algos that AMD GPUs could profit most from in terms of optimisations.

We're basically stuck with Wildrig, which is still grossly unoptimised, unfortunately.

I am currently using the official client (GrinGoldMiner) to mine GRIN (I do not know if there are other currencies that have that algo).
I'm not sure that the performance is good, but the price of the coin is worth it ...

Getting a bit off-topic, but GrinPro is the newer, shinier v of GGM, and has much better perf on polaris/ellesmere, slightly better on vega.  If you want c31, go w/ minerbabe (you can dl just the mining binary - kbminer - and use it on a standard linux install if you want, but it takes some trickery.) 

But also throwing my vote in - a proper MW implementation for AMD would be great.
newbie
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How can you do this? 135W?  this is info from wattmeter? What settings?

HWinfo reports it yes, which is accurate since I compared its readings with wattmeter before. I've got 2 furies in rig with 6 nvidia cards. Their settings for lyra2r3 are: 900mhz core and voltages are 975mV/981mV per card. Under load it gives 938mV/944mV because of vdrop. At 1000Mhz it was 66Mhs@185Wt(though I didnt undervolt them properly) with v0.3.9, so now with 0.3.10 it's probably a bit more since with 900Mhz new version of miner gave me ~0.5mhs extra hashrate.

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I get more 200W  with -125mV !

This is not much of undervolting considering vcore on stock bios on my cards was 1200mV+ on each card which is insane. With 1000mhz I tried randomly inputing 1100mV and as I said it gave me 185Wt and was stable, so I could probably dropped it even further, but the goal was to make them consume <150Wt so I realized it would never happen @1000Mhz so I didnt bother finetuning this clocks.

So you  switch core voltage in bios to +/- 1000mV(reprogramming stock bios)? Or just in any software program in OS(like -200mV, i think what it is not possible for stable work)?
member
Activity: 588
Merit: 61
Would you guys be able to dev mimblewimble miner? Seriously lacking a good AMD one to compete  Tongue

I too would like.
It must be the only thing missing from TRM! Grin

Regards
There's actually Mimblewimble/Cuckaroo/Cuckatoo's but also (and in my opinion even more important) all the x16 algos that need a massive amount of love over on the AMD side.
It's a lot of work, so I can understand the lack of progress from either AMD devs... but arguably it's the suite of algos that AMD GPUs could profit most from in terms of optimisations.

We're basically stuck with Wildrig, which is still grossly unoptimised, unfortunately.

I am currently using the official client (GrinGoldMiner) to mine GRIN (I do not know if there are other currencies that have that algo).
I'm not sure that the performance is good, but the price of the coin is worth it ...
newbie
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Hi to everyone!
Is there any way to run teamredminer on R9 390x?
hero member
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Would you guys be able to dev mimblewimble miner? Seriously lacking a good AMD one to compete  Tongue

I too would like.
It must be the only thing missing from TRM! Grin

Regards
There's actually Mimblewimble/Cuckaroo/Cuckatoo's but also (and in my opinion even more important) all the x16 algos that need a massive amount of love over on the AMD side.
It's a lot of work, so I can understand the lack of progress from either AMD devs... but arguably it's the suite of algos that AMD GPUs could profit most from in terms of optimisations.

We're basically stuck with Wildrig, which is still grossly unoptimised, unfortunately.
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But on my 580 cards memory not 300MHz but on full speed. How I can make downclock of memory?
Use OverdriveNTool

About OverdriveNTool ... Any stable conf for rx580?
Can you attach a screenshot?
I always mess with values on the right (fan, power, ...) Roll Eyes
member
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Would you guys be able to dev mimblewimble miner? Seriously lacking a good AMD one to compete  Tongue

I too would like.
It must be the only thing missing from TRM! Grin

Regards
jr. member
Activity: 312
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How can you do this? 135W?  this is info from wattmeter? What settings?

HWinfo reports it yes, which is accurate since I compared its readings with wattmeter before. I've got 2 furies in rig with 6 nvidia cards. Their settings for lyra2r3 are: 900mhz core and voltages are 975mV/981mV per card. Under load it gives 938mV/944mV because of vdrop. At 1000Mhz it was 66Mhs@185Wt(though I didnt undervolt them properly) with v0.3.9, so now with 0.3.10 it's probably a bit more since with 900Mhz new version of miner gave me ~0.5mhs extra hashrate.

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I get more 200W  with -125mV !

This is not much of undervolting considering vcore on stock bios on my cards was 1200mV+ on each card which is insane. With 1000mhz I tried randomly inputing 1100mV and as I said it gave me 185Wt and was stable, so I could probably dropped it even further, but the goal was to make them consume <150Wt so I realized it would never happen @1000Mhz so I didnt bother finetuning this clocks.
newbie
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This is crushing it! well done, you guys are really a step above the rest atm

Just for some info, some of my cards on this algo

2080Ti - 108mh @ 205w
1080Ti - 74mh   @ 195w
Vega 56 - 82mh @ 200w

You are crushing it

When Grin and beam Smiley)
jr. member
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Hi, anyone running Lyra2rev3 on Linux with Vegas? If so, can you share your hash rate, thank you.
jr. member
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Hello, is there a watchdog_script included with the miner? I don’t see one in the folder.
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