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Topic: [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 -240 GHs Coincraft A1 board- Finished production - page 7. (Read 72425 times)

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Thanks for answering the question, loshia I am not above giving credit where credit is due. I am asking because I have my own curiosity as well in this. AMT is not the only miner I own. And getting some other options is nice. Thanks again for the reply.
legendary
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So out of curiosity the numbers achieved what settings were needed to get those?
What settings were required...and can they be sustained without burning out?
And are they recommended?



Welcome contributor,
To contribute to your question first thing
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6597849
So you will need a fire man arround like usual with amt crap Grin
Now if you are brave you will need
270 clock and 1050 mv whatever this means to you oh yeah and 40 amps at 12 volts.are your two higher degrees enough for this info?. If not look at cgminer screen if it is not helping you Zipkin poserkoto will explain for sure. When time comes of course Grin it is a matter of weeks  Grin just a few more
Ask for your money poserkoto Zipkin is gona deliver crap as always
If you Contribute this info to amt thread I will own you Wink
hero member
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So out of curiosity the numbers achieved what settings were needed to get those?
What settings were required...and can they be sustained without burning out?
And are they recommended?

legendary
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Just measured the power draw at the wall (240V) for 4 x Technobit HEX8A1 - 260GHs Coincraft A1 units:

Pictures can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/mRbMZ#4w7cdKp

1730W = ~1000GHs
1730W / 4 = ~433W each (250GHs)

Code:
0: HEX8 0       : 270 1000/1009mV         | 777.0G / 262.8Gh/s
 1: HEX8 1       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 74.51G / 262.9Gh/s
 2: HEX8 2       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 354.7G / 255.4Gh/s
 3: HEX8 3       : 270 1000/ 999mV         | 266.6G / 275.5Gh/s

How the heck is that possible?

That is overclocked at 1v, I assume, yes?
Consuming 1.7W/GH... That would cost me over $5000 a year, just to run it! In addition to the cost of the unit.
(Just thinking out-loud, observations, not complaining.)

Where the heck did you find a 1800W PSU?
No shit isawhim  Wink
No seriously I will keep my promise and stop to "contribute" to amt thread anymore. poserkoto Zipkin deleted my post from amt thread of course. Opium2 will take care of it Grin
In general you will be able to get 1.2 the from 5 boards Technobit originals with real heatsinks. You need just a little bit of over clocking
We discussed so called psu issue and grounding if your remember?
Back to your questions yo are needing about 30-35 amps per board at 12 v to get 1.2 t the from 5 boards
As we know poserkoto Zipkin will not ship you six boards Grin
If I were you I would split my setup over two psu's with two tplinks
You are good with numbers so you are the one to decide. I will strongly suggest
1. To ask for refund from poserkoto Zipkin
2. Or eventually if you happen to get someday Technobit boards without amt engendering touch Grin
To run them in more relax manner on two psu's  
Yeah an prepare about 700 usd for psu just in case

hero member
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Sorry
I just saw it is a quote
Yes these are our 8 chip A1 boards.
hero member
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I do not remember you getting miners from us Wink
read carefully
it is 1W/GHs in standard mode
it is about 25 GHs per chip or 200 GHs per 8 chip board.
And just FYI the board design can change the power consumption in the range of 5-10%.
So it is the chip !

I have not gotten a miner from you yet... I had not said that I have...

I am aware of the A1's power consumption and levels. I was simply questioning HIS use, in the post.

Looking at the other post I quoted... Nor apparently does he have your miner... That is not your boards, that was the power draw of the avalon2 miners. Unless you guys make Avalon2 miners, and Avalon2's have A1's on them now. (I also see he has two separate PSU's... He made it look like only one PSU.)

I should have realized that was not the A1's, or, well, not your A1's... Not sure why he posted that here.

I came, because this version of the A1 boards are being offered by AMT, as a substitute for the boards they are having issues with. Wanted to get an idea of what I would be getting, before I told them to ship me my miner.. um.. your miner... xD

I am more interested in loshia's power consumption now, looking at his setup. Those are the normal operating voltages I am familiar with.

EDITED: He does have these miners... They are just further down the line in the photo's. That guy has every miner in existence, lol.
hero member
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Just measured the power draw at the wall (240V) for 4 x Technobit HEX8A1 - 260GHs Coincraft A1 units:

Pictures can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/mRbMZ#4w7cdKp

1730W = ~1000GHs
1730W / 4 = ~433W each (250GHs)

Code:
0: HEX8 0       : 270 1000/1009mV         | 777.0G / 262.8Gh/s
 1: HEX8 1       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 74.51G / 262.9Gh/s
 2: HEX8 2       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 354.7G / 255.4Gh/s
 3: HEX8 3       : 270 1000/ 999mV         | 266.6G / 275.5Gh/s

How the heck is that possible?

That is overclocked at 1v, I assume, yes?
Consuming 1.7W/GH... That would cost me over $5000 a year, just to run it! In addition to the cost of the unit.
(Just thinking out-loud, observations, not complaining.)

Where the heck did you find a 1800W PSU?
I do not remember you getting miners from us Wink
read carefully
it is 1W/GHs in standard mode
it is about 25 GHs per chip or 200 GHs per 8 chip board.
And just FYI the board design can change the power consumption in the range of 5-10%.
So it is the chip !

hero member
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Just measured the power draw at the wall (240V) for 4 x Technobit HEX8A1 - 260GHs Coincraft A1 units:

Pictures can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/mRbMZ#4w7cdKp

1730W = ~1000GHs
1730W / 4 = ~433W each (250GHs)

Code:
0: HEX8 0       : 270 1000/1009mV         | 777.0G / 262.8Gh/s
 1: HEX8 1       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 74.51G / 262.9Gh/s
 2: HEX8 2       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 354.7G / 255.4Gh/s
 3: HEX8 3       : 270 1000/ 999mV         | 266.6G / 275.5Gh/s

How the heck is that possible?

That is overclocked at 1v, I assume, yes?
Consuming 1.7W/GH... That would cost me over $5000 a year, just to run it! In addition to the cost of the unit.
(Just thinking out-loud, observations, not complaining.)

Where the heck did you find a 1800W PSU?

Try underclocking them to 230/860 and run cgminer v4.2.3 and see if you can replicate Ioshas results on BTCGuild!
Apparently we all get the same boards and chips are random but that should get you pretty close to 1GH/W. You can run quieter fans then too. Wink


Code:
cgminer version 4.2.3 - Started: [2014-04-07 14:06:04]
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 (5s):1.986T (1m):2.124T (5m):2.259T (15m):2.160T (avg):2.100Th/s
 A:331377180  R:1003322  HW:3103982  WU:29338.8/m  
 Connected to stratum-lb-usa48.btcguild.com diff 1.02K with stratum as
 Block: 5ea1ca8a...  Diff:6.12G  Started: [10:52:17]  Best share: 239M
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: HEX8 0  : 230  860/ 862mV  | 75.55G / 234.5Gh/s WU:3276.1/m
 1: HEX8 1  : 230  860/ 859mV  | 1.868T / 231.2Gh/s WU:3230.0/m
 2: HEX8 2  : 230  860/ 870mV  | 98.01G / 233.5Gh/s WU:3262.3/m
 3: HEX8 3  : 230  860/ 859mV  | 319.8G / 233.6Gh/s WU:3262.8/m
 4: HEX8 4  : 230  860/ 869mV  | 8.597G / 228.7Gh/s WU:3195.6/m
 5: HEX8 5  : 230  860/ 863mV  | 934.5G / 236.0Gh/s WU:3296.9/m
 6: HEX8 6  : 230  860/ 858mV  | 77.34G / 234.1Gh/s WU:3270.8/m
 7: HEX8 7  : 230  860/ 858mV  | 29.11G / 235.2Gh/s WU:3286.0/m
 8: HEX8 8  : 230  860/ 862mV  | 14.12G / 233.2Gh/s WU:3258.3/m
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hero member
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Just measured the power draw at the wall (240V) for 4 x Technobit HEX8A1 - 260GHs Coincraft A1 units:

Pictures can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/mRbMZ#4w7cdKp

1730W = ~1000GHs
1730W / 4 = ~433W each (250GHs)

Code:
0: HEX8 0       : 270 1000/1009mV         | 777.0G / 262.8Gh/s
 1: HEX8 1       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 74.51G / 262.9Gh/s
 2: HEX8 2       : 270 1000/1006mV         | 354.7G / 255.4Gh/s
 3: HEX8 3       : 270 1000/ 999mV         | 266.6G / 275.5Gh/s

How the heck is that possible?

That is overclocked at 1v, I assume, yes?
Consuming 1.7W/GH... That would cost me over $5000 a year, just to run it! In addition to the cost of the unit.
(Just thinking out-loud, observations, not complaining.)

Where the heck did you find a 1800W PSU?
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HI, All
We are back @ work.
All questions will be addressed.
In order to help us, please send again your unsorted RMA questons to [email protected]


Best Martin
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Need MITM protection... Update for router...

This is fix for ants https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6533560
legendary
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Cryptotalk.org - Get paid for every post!
Do you folks handle U.S.A. orders?
legendary
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Just to let you know guys today and tomorrow are a national holidays in Bulgaria
legendary
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Another one RMA Question  :

i Send my 130 Unit back ( i know you start work today after Holidays )
and i want to upgrade to 260

Now the 260 Unit cost me 547 Euro and the 130 Unit 289 Euros

You wrote :
-----------------------
Martin Sirakov
2014-04-27 08:22:36    Dear Customer,

Make a new order for 130 ghs and pay it
We'll ship 1 x 260 Ghs
as soon you RMA device is here

Regards,
Customer service
Glen Cassidy
2014-04-26 19:14:23    Hello !

i just send the Miner for RMA
because i want to buy another i choose to "upgrade" this RMA Unit to an HEX8 260 GHS Version.

following URL :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6407336
--------------------

Mhhm my original Order was :

Total products : 499,00€
Total shipping : 32,00€
Total 531,00€
Shipment MARCH 2014    130 GHs HEX8A1 Coincraft A1 miner    1    499,00€    499,00€



What about Pricediscussion ? i am willing to pay 100 Euros more ( 499+100 )  thats 599 Euro for the Hardware.

Can you the send me then back the 130 RMA as 260 Unit ?

Otherwise if i had to pay more the send back my 130 Unit


Hope my English is not so bad that you understand what i mean ;-)

Greetz Glen

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Dear Marto!

There are any news from my hex8 from RMA ? (Hungary, Andor Rajci)
I have send you soon a month the device and no answer.
1 month LOSS of mining.

Thanks the answer.
-iFA88
legendary
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Has anyone successfully tried 270/1050 for extended periods of time in a ~23 degrees C room? Running at 260 seems to work fine, but this saved me after my tl-mr3020 went crazy: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cgminer-windows-build-for-technobit-boards.298736/

[edit] btw @ 260-1000 I have 0% hw errors, does that mean i can safely try 270/1050?

The test is for current measurement only. I only run it for about 5 minutes since the heatsink become very-very hot.

You can see the current usage is very high for only 10 GH increment LOL
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Hi thanks for replies and info, it helps.

so on 130  unit there are 4 chips?

also why are there two 6 pin PCI-e  and what are the terminals ?

what info have you based power (12v 17amp) on?

I would like to ask Marto what sort of power supply he would use please?

Yes (lol) i have run two 130 boards on the 300w PSU conected like something out of film adaption of Jules Vern novel.
one PSU is not working now (over heated) in an other 12v line wire began to melt at hexminer voltage 1000. I got a few of these 300w PSU for cheap price (10 euro each), yes u get what u pay for some times.

but it has meant I did not get chance to break more expensive PSU ( I am a beginer really)
When I ran the two 130 units hexminer voltage "890" PSU heating up was less and ran 4-5 hours but with low hash rate
 about +/-100gh/s.

so for correct power supply I should know all factors of power requirements of parts on unit eg. chip, fans etc.
ok thanks again and if you can help with further infomation that would be ace!

EU40Niner
After all the explanations i am wandering how you still are not on fire Smiley
Listen to zich
Chips need power - that is why two connectors are there. Zich have measured them in the past

In short for eight chips measured by zich

Here is the result on 12V rail:
260/1005 = 33   A
265/1030 = 37   A
265/1040 = 38,5 A
265/1050 = 39   A
270/1050 = 40,5 A
You can go lower of course that is OCed Wink

So divide this by two and add 15% safety margin at least for 4 chips



Has anyone successfully tried 270/1050 for extended periods of time in a ~23 degrees C room? Running at 260 seems to work fine, but this saved me after my tl-mr3020 went crazy: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cgminer-windows-build-for-technobit-boards.298736/

[edit] btw @ 260-1000 I have 0% hw errors, does that mean i can safely try 270/1050?
sr. member
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Just bought a 8A1 for 400 euro's.
it is working fine, but the two fans are not working when connected to the board.
I do supply them external now (connected to same psu).

Does someone know why the board does not supply them (maybe it has happend more often)?

If anyone else (preferrably EU) has any hex8a1's to sell, We can talk about this price range I'd like to get one or two more

hero member
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Hello,

A bunch of AMT customers have received AMT systems that are non-working.

Would it be possible for us to send our boards to you to be re-assembled into TechnoBit boards?

You will just have to remove the surface mounted A1 chips.

Is this something that is viable?
All of the AMT customers execpt melbro did recive a crap. not a bunch all exept one!
Are you ready to pay shiping back and fourth + 1month  delay + service + pcb cost?
If yes then somone can comment if it is possible at at in technical terms
Besides you do not know if chips are working at all
that is noncence
The best aproch will be to order populated board without the chips and do it localy.
Nonworking chip in the beginning of the chain can make all the rest not to work
And finaly cheaper will be just to order real fuly populated  board which is working fantastic Wink

That is a thought,  how much for a fully populated board without the A1 chips?   We can mount it ourselves.

Marto can you comment.

You can order assembly service and to comment in mail or pm that you want them without asics
hero member
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could  somebody upload the hex8a1 release of hexminer? the link on the technobit  site is dead Sad
I will be able to check in 2 days
Anyway I strongly sugest using cgminer
You can find here a tread by 2good for windows build
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