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Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

I dont get it how they will be able to influence the whole process? If something goes wrong the admins will be able to see it and fix it. So what’s the problem?

The base of verification process is cache checking. Some miners are able to avoid confirming new block creation when they are losing. It might take weeks to find and fix it.

Hmm.. I'm even curious what admins are you referring to?
Yes, the ability to avoid mining is one of the major reasons why hash (or more broadly, any block content based RNG)-based RNGs are flawed by design.

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Quote from: askon on January 22, 2018, 01:58:43 AM

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Quote from: askon on January 22, 2018, 01:53:01 AM

Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

I dont get it how they will be able to influence the whole process? If something goes wrong the admins will be able to see it and fix it. So what’s the problem?

The base of verification process is cache checking. Some miners are able to avoid confirming new block creation when they are losing. It might take weeks to find and fix it.

Yeah, risky people are usually very impatient. Okay then. What is the solution for this problem according to Spade team?

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All new casinos and gaming houses, that use your technology, will try to take a bite of the common pie, in other words - to work with an established players audience. As for me, it's not going to be very successful solution.

Absolutely out of the question. The decentralization and blockchain technologies open doors to many new clients, that have never before had the guts to bet online or to play poker online for real money.

But if they have never gone so far before, then why all of a sudden, with the Spade appearance, these people will change their minds?

Because many people were stopped by the probability of being deceived or winning less often, due to the software, that were controlled by a gambling house. As for bets, bookmakers spend their gain on advertising campaign, while they could just improve rates’ quotations by reducing spending.

Yeah… I would like to play slots, but I read too much about gambling houses, that cheat incredibly often. And will your technology let ordinary players ensure, that the winning probability, that is specified in the slots settings, is real?

I assume there would be more clarity in the odds of the games when it comes to this platform. I hope at least.

Anybody making a bet can be sure that the randomness that is being fed into the, say, deck shuffling protocol cannot be biased by any of the protocol participants. Basically, SP8DE levels the playing field in gambling: now, no one has an unfair edge over anyone else.

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Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:56:01 AM

Quote from: askon on January 22, 2018, 01:53:01 AM

Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

I dont get it how they will be able to influence the whole process? If something goes wrong the admins will be able to see it and fix it. So what’s the problem?

The base of verification process is cache checking. Some miners are able to avoid confirming new block creation when they are losing. It might take weeks to find and fix it.

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Quote from: askon on January 22, 2018, 01:53:01 AM

Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

I dont get it how they will be able to influence the whole process? If something goes wrong the admins will be able to see it and fix it. So what’s the problem?

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Quote from: askon on January 22, 2018, 01:53:01 AM

Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

yes, indeed, to many this applies.

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Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

You give me examples, I tell you the reasons why we don't.

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Quote from: ggcript on January 22, 2018, 01:49:06 AM

Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

It seems to me that it’s better not to do it because miners will be able to influence the price and it’s unfair.

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Quote from: Forspareparts on January 19, 2018, 06:54:58 AM

How do you plan to reduce so much the expenses on internal transactions? And why other platforms haven't thought of that before?

The fees are paid at the DApp level. Basically, you deposit the funds into a smart contract that will distribute the funds when people leave in accordance with the game results'. The settlement follows the withdrawal.

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Quote from: app2endad on January 20, 2018, 06:13:35 AM

Good afternoon. Does your technology allow you to learn about winning quickly enough? For a gambler, even a millisecond matters.

Depends on what you mean by 'enough'. For us 'enough' = not interrupting user experience. If we agree on the definitions, then, yes it will be quick enough.

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Hi. Some casinos use on-chain random number generation. It doesnt look like it’s too expensive, So why not add it to the platform?

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Quote from: notbad4day on January 20, 2018, 06:58:56 AM

Hello. In order to open a casino using your technology, it will be necessary to get a gambling license of some island state, or not?

As of now, surely not.

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Quote from: DioBrando on January 20, 2018, 08:07:02 AM

In the team you have one third of people whose profile basically says nothing part from academic formation.
And only one dev that finished University in 2016.

I mean...dat doesn't sound so great.

We are currently expanding the team of developers: mind that we have the entire MISIS university behind us. Getting some funding was a pre-requisite for making lucrative offers to those who we believe are the best. Stay tuned: soon we will release major updates regarding the team.

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Hi. How much time is one transaction going to take? The time is very important when it comes to slots.

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Quote from: evergreensys on January 20, 2018, 09:16:22 AM

When the gambling business moved to the network, the fees from the players would have to decrease, but they remained the same. Why do you think your platform will be able to change the situation?

What rationale do you have behind this claim?

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Quote from: foreverman on January 20, 2018, 09:22:17 AM

Good afternoon. Overall, I approve of anonymity, but I believe that all players in poker or the black jack will have to go through KYC to prevent money laundering. Do you agree?

Sure thing, bro! All on the DApp level.

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Quote from: joblessminer on January 20, 2018, 03:00:13 PM

Is Spade completely decentralized?

Entirely. Even on the idea level: we are not the sole designers of the DApps on our platform - anyone can do it.

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Quote from: 2l84aa on January 20, 2018, 03:25:24 PM

Is it legal for US citizens to use this platform?

Sure thing!
Not allowed to participate in the ICO, though.

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Good afternoon. I believe, that the sources of random numbers generation for online services should be available to the public. Then it will increase the transparency of a casino.

At the same time, if somebody finds the algorithm of the specific randomizer, he will immediately try to find a way to deceive it, making all casinos vulnerable.

Then why not use the standard RAND function? It is available even in basic office programs.

It suffers from the same problem, and sometimes gives away error messages. That is an inadmissible option, when working with multi-million bets on roulette.

Well, then why Spade would not purchase the technology at any of the online services like random.org? Most of the lotteries pass through them, and almost no one complains.

Why do you use Bitcoin when you can use your dollar bills instead? <-this is the same type of question. We have an entire page in the WP dedicated to a detailed analysis of it. In brief: random.org is perfect, but are you sure that a centralized online casino indeed uses the numbers provided by this service as it claims it does? I have worked in multiple gambling-related companies and trust me it is never done entirely fair.

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Quote from: kentuckykid on January 21, 2018, 05:07:06 AM

Hello. If a user wins too often, it will lead to significant losses for a casino. Do your tools let influence on this process?

Hello. It is driven by the DApp design: we are not a casino, we provide the framework.

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