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Hi, I am using The Rock mostly with my C.A.T. bot. My problem is that in C.A.T. my balances do not include the amounts in my open orders. Sampey says that is because of your api. Could you please fix that?
Thx.

Yes, it is more expensive due to the nature of the business.

However, if you utilize the standard bid/ask markets we are quite competitive 

Yeah, fastlane is easier but at what price, won't it be a bit more expensive than going through the bid/ask tables?

Yes, we are working on it. Thank you!

nice

Your website and API is down at the moment... =/

A few updates from the last weeks...

ZCash
ZCash deposits, withdrawals and trading were open since the coin launched! We strongly support ZCash for several reasons, mostly because of its focus on privacy - an essential human right. You can read our thoughts on Medium.

Fastlane
Tired of going through Bid/Ask tables, market or limit positions and so on? Just switch to Fastlane! It's the easiest way to purchase cryptocurrencies: Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ether, Peercoin, XRP Ripple.. You name it, we have it! You will have to enter only the amount of EUR that you want to use - and we'll do the rest. Easy, isn't it?!

Switzerland: not only chocolate!
Swiss rail operator SBB is selling Bitcoin at its automated ticket machines - anyone can purchase any Bitcoin amount between CHF 20 and CHF 500! We're so happy about this because The Rock Trading is powering the backbone of the whole operation, through our partnership with Sweepay, the Swiss startup that helped SBB to integrate Bitcoin sales into their offering.

General improvements
A new page for margin trading positions, a faster trading engine.. Our development team is working hard to make The Rock Trading the best exchange to use! In the last weeks, we performed several upgrades and maintenance operations that will make trading smoother than ever. Have you checked all the new usability improvements?

More than 1 Million Litecoins traded on The Rock in the last year! --> https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/currency

This makes us one of the exchanges with the highest LTC/EUR volume: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?LTC_EUR

thanks

for those who are interested without calling api, at the moment the min amounts are:
BTCEUR min. crypto: 0.005
BTCUSD min. crypto: 0.005
BTCXRP min. crypto: 0.005
LTCEUR min. crypto: 0.01
LTCBTC min. crypto: 0.01
EURXRP min. crypto: 0.01
USDXRP min. crypto: 0.01
LTCUSD min. crypto: 0.01
PPCEUR min. crypto: 0.05
PPCBTC min. crypto: 0.05
ETHEUR min. crypto: 0.01
ETHBTC min. crypto: 0.01

Via API, see https://api.therocktrading.com/doc/v1/#api-Market_API-Funds.

Thank you
/paci

Where can I see the minimim trading amount for each currency pair ?

We're improving margin trading on The Rock! Read our announcement on our Medium page.

Hello! We are launching Fastlane, a new way to buy bitcoins, litecoins and ethers: it's fast and easy!

Here's a brief description: https://medium.com/the-rock-trading/introducing-fastlane-a2b94ae3c66

add lsk and dgd and probably i consider your market

You have to raise it again
The limit is smashed during this heavy traffic.

We have some updates! Read our blog post to know the details: http://blog.therocktrading.com/2016/05/may-update-rock/

• Win a Ledger Nano, by completing our short survey. (The contest will be open until June 5th).
• Starting June 1st, we will apply a small rollover fee (0.01% per 4 hours) to margin trades.
• 5x leverage available on Btc/Eur!
• Margin trading is available also on Eth/Eur and Eth/Btc markets
• BitID login can be enabled from your settings page

And which call do I have to understand? Or where would you add a note?
My bot needs to know it, when a margin call happend. I guess at the moment the position will just disappear from the open_position list? This is not enough, because positons also disappear if my bot does any new opposite margin order.
The best thing would to include the info about margin call in the https://api.therocktrading.com/v1/funds/:fund_id/orders/id Call. *

Okay, I thought it would be no deal to just include 2 more values in a response, but I guess your exchange has to figure out these values, which sums up to alot of wasted time, if unnecessary.
Maybe I will calculate the position balance on my own, with help of the positions list, which I will call every few minutes, to keep track of my used margin.

Great  I will write down all my thoughts while implementing it (don't know if it will be today or the next days or later)

Some question I already have:
1) In the positions list, there is only one "amount" entry. Is this the opening amount, or the rest amount? I hope it is the rest amount, but a closed position can't have a rest amount... so it seems to be the opening amount? Then you have to add a rest amount, because when I have a 1BTC long position open and place a 0.4short position, the result in total would be a 0.6btc long position. Or will that be a new position with a new id ??
2) At place_order Call I read: "position_id required on "close_long" and "close_short" orders only." So when placing an opposite margin order, I have to tell you, which position I want to close? Is it possible to not include a position ID and then you will close the open positions according to FIFO ?
3) How does the open_position List looks like, if I place a margin position about 1 BTC, but only 0.4 BTC are filled yet? Will this create 2 positions 0.4 btc and later 0.6 BTc ? Or how is this done?


*  I just saw I can also call closed orders in the positions list (is the default parameter for status "both"?). So just include a note in that list, that a position was closed due to margin call and everything should be fine

edit:
I get the feeling, that placing a short position via API, won't close a long position automatically, like I would expect..?
So how is it done at therocktrading? I have 1 BTC long position and want to place a 0.4 short position, which should result in a 0.6 BTC long position in total. It seems at your exchange I only can close the 1BTC position completly ?
If so, this would be urgent margin trading feature request. It should be the way I described.

Sorry for the late reply, had some problems with my PC in the last days (it died).


1) Currently there is no notification, if a margin call happens. The position is closed. It should be easy to understand
when a position is closed because of a margin call, but if you think it may help, we can add (maybe) a note
field to position.
2) Yes, it will be something along the line.


Position Balances API call returns the balance of all positions (related to that currency pairs). Position trading balance
is the balance not locked for closing those positions.

And yes, balance and position balance are different things, depend on different calculations, so
they are two distinctive calls. Note, you should be interested in position balance only to close a position,
so you should request it only when needed. Having a single call to respond with all the balances,
might make sense on your side, but from a server point of view it would take a lot of burden,
99% of time unneeded.

I'm interested in your (and others) bot activity with margin trading: API for margin trading
can still be modified, so if there is something we can improve or would like to be modified,
we can discuss it.

/paci

@ paci:
I figured out a way how I can profit from margin trading even without the "cash out" feature So I will implement it within the next days into my bot.

But some questions:
1) How can my bot be notified, if a margin call happens? Which API call can I make, to find out, that a margin call happend?
2) For now, there are no extra margin fees, right? But of course you will implement them some day. Will it be a fix fee, or like Kraken something like 0.01% per 4 hours (so a fee per time positions were open)?

edit:
I took a quick look at API for margin trading, and noticed there is a new call for position balances: https://api.therocktrading.com/doc/v1/#api-Margin_Trading_API-PositionBalances
That is what exactly? The balance which is locked for all positions? Or the balance that is not locked? I guess the second thing is right?

I just want to know, if I want to do normal trades and margin trades with my bot, if it is enough to call Margin_Trading_API-PositionBalances, or if I also have to call Basic_API-Balances ?
I hope it is enough to call one of these, since every call takes some seconds, so I would like to do as less calls as possible... if I have to call both at the moment, would it be possible to merge them?  

But I guess Margin_Trading_API-PositionBalances is the only thing I have to call, right?

edit:
it seems I really have to call both balance calls.. same problem at kraken... but why 2 calls for something, that could be easily returned in one single call??

You have to take into account that there may be more users like me.
I don't like the normal margin trading and will never do this. But I will use margin trading in combination with the cash out option alot.
Hope you will add this feature some day

Will write you a PM

Thank you for noticing, the view is going to be fixed ASAP.

And yes, on a specific position page, with expert mode on, you can sell to close a long
position or buy to close a short one.

But that is not a "cash out" as in Kraken. And it's not even commission free.

We may add something along the line in the future, if requested: so far, I
think it is still too early; most of our users are not yet used to margin trading
and we are still collecting feedbacks (that's why, for example, our max leverage
is only 3x and why some features are hidden behind "expert mode").

About API for margin trading, it's documented on https://api.therocktrading.com/doc/v1/
as always.

About stock exchange: it's something we inherited from our old Second Life business,
but we do not purse it anymore, for a lot of reasons. Too long to explain them here,
but if interested, we can discuss it on our public forums.


Thank you, the green bar and EV SSL has been there since 2013 :-).
/paci