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Topic: ⭐🚀[ANN] Tombola-Cryptocurrency Lottery and Gambling platform based on Ethereum⭐🚀 - page 18. (Read 14189 times)

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fammy and jdnthny make tons of positive posts in this thread always 2 minutes apart all month

...could you be shilling for ICO's?
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Yep the concept is good Team seems solid, I'll but the token sale is not moving we only have 8 days before this project ends but hopefully we made it to the hard cap
Fees are in full swing. Many of the investors are interested in the product offered by the company.
Yes that is totally correct! This would be the right and perfect time for you to be part of tombola community and if you are willing to invest on this kind of project, rest assure that you will prosper!
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Just want to know i see the road map why there's no exact date of when they will put the tambola on the exchange they just put 2018 sorry im just a newbie at this thank you for the one will answer my question
actually this is not a part of the whitepaper to put there the exchange, the roadmap is all about the plan of the project until it a success and ongoing run the system, if you want to know about the exchange you must join to their telegram.
Yes that is true and I agreed to what you have said! If you want to know about when does tombola team put it to any exchange, I advised you to check and take a look on their official telegram channel and you can also ask the admins for your questions.
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Iam hoping that this kind of coin will go so high like 1$ in the december im going to hold this coin cause i know it has a lot of chance so let see and wait in the future and im hoping for the best
And it's a great idea to hold this token. Taking into account the working capacity of the project, the price for the token will only grow.

Token will drop if anyone invested in the FIRST whitepaper and finds out that the SECOND whitepaper isn't the same project.

Tombola shows naivety and lack of professionalism to the investors, expect many to ditch the project first chance they get.

They should be worried about lawsuit for misleading investors really because ICO's are under so much scrutiny lately. Lets hope they show professionalism at some point and explain better.  
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Yep the concept is good Team seems solid, I'll but the token sale is not moving we only have 8 days before this project ends but hopefully we made it to the hard cap
Fees are in full swing. Many of the investors are interested in the product offered by the company.
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I have recognized that Tombola has a good rating on icobench - 4,3 out of 5,0. There is more than a week left before the end of main sale, so I think there will be many more willing to invest.
Yes that is true! Tombola obtain a very high and positive rating from different ICO review and rating website like ICObench, this gives a good indication that this project is a worth to invest project.
I think icobench will not gave that rating if the project didnt go through due process. I hope those accussing people about Tombola will be silent until theyve heard explanation from the team.
for me dont recognize or give some attention to the people accusing tombola.. Just focus in the project how will go through until they reach the success. Tombola are moving good just continue it.

It isnt accusing tombola... they CHANGED THEIR WHITEPAPER. Anyone who downloaded the whitepaper before investing can easily see this, we posted the differences in this thread.

Tombola started the thread....the title still has "Gambling platform based on EOS" so why doesn't icobench say EOS anymore? Tombola doesn't respect the project or investors enough to even explain this, just uses shill accounts to push the ICO before the project fails.
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I have recognized that Tombola has a good rating on icobench - 4,3 out of 5,0. There is more than a week left before the end of main sale, so I think there will be many more willing to invest.
Yes that is true! Tombola obtain a very high and positive rating from different ICO review and rating website like ICObench, this gives a good indication that this project is a worth to invest project.
I think icobench will not gave that rating if the project didnt go through due process. I hope those accussing people about Tombola will be silent until theyve heard explanation from the team.

Nobody said the team couldn't tell investors they were changing their whitepaper... the Tombola team just did it.

What is more important to the team, collecting money from people or explaining why the team is acting irresponsibly before even launching a product?

They didn't even update sites like icoholder but because they updated icobench they are somehow working hard and doing a "good job"?

https://icoholder.com/en/tombola-23057
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TOMBOLA is a lottery and gaming platform based on the EOS block chain, providing clear information about all purchased tickets, lottery numbers and winners. With this platform, you will be able to access lottery and gaming based on EOS, it is without expenditure of executable gas.

About Tombola

The first Cryptocurrency Lottery and Gambling platform based on EOS. Fair and fun, but no gas spending. Tombola will be the standard of the world Game and Lottery platform


They should have stopped the ICO and started another with the new whitepaper.

Only bounty and airdrop people post that this is a good project because they want to be able to dump free TBL tokens the team promised them when they're released. Anyone who is buying the TBL Token NOW is at a WAY bigger risk than previously.

The team didn't even know how they were going to deal with regulators for offering lottery on the EOS platform...how were they actually going to service customers when they don't even know the legality of the product they were planning to build?

The whole thing smells terrible, unless you want free tokens from the team to sell before the unlucky investors pull out.


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hundreds of different ICO projects appeared during last months. But not much were they really worth my attention? Probably, just a few of them were really hot.. but not as hot as Tombola can be.. a true game changer!
yes your right for me there are some ico that can be true or i can trust there platform because of impossible to happen. About tombola platform thos is perfect that can actually recognize a lot of people this is not new but have a unique way to introduce the new gambling world.
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I have recognized that Tombola has a good rating on icobench - 4,3 out of 5,0. There is more than a week left before the end of main sale, so I think there will be many more willing to invest.
Yes that is true! Tombola obtain a very high and positive rating from different ICO review and rating website like ICObench, this gives a good indication that this project is a worth to invest project.
I think icobench will not gave that rating if the project didnt go through due process. I hope those accussing people about Tombola will be silent until theyve heard explanation from the team.
for me dont recognize or give some attention to the people accusing tombola.. Just focus in the project how will go through until they reach the success. Tombola are moving good just continue it.
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I have recognized that Tombola has a good rating on icobench - 4,3 out of 5,0. There is more than a week left before the end of main sale, so I think there will be many more willing to invest.
Yes that is true! Tombola obtain a very high and positive rating from different ICO review and rating website like ICObench, this gives a good indication that this project is a worth to invest project.
I think icobench will not gave that rating if the project didnt go through due process. I hope those accussing people about Tombola will be silent until theyve heard explanation from the team.
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Iam hoping that this kind of coin will go so high like 1$ in the december im going to hold this coin cause i know it has a lot of chance so let see and wait in the future and im hoping for the best
Indeed the token will always have a good value, but focus should be placed more on the project itself.
its depends on how the project work. Because there a lot of investor are focusing in a ico that have potential and interesting. If tombola have that ability no wonder thic ico will patronized and the valued of token can move high
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Iam hoping that this kind of coin will go so high like 1$ in the december im going to hold this coin cause i know it has a lot of chance so let see and wait in the future and im hoping for the best
Indeed the token will always have a good value, but focus should be placed more on the project itself.
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hundreds of different ICO projects appeared during last months. But not much were they really worth my attention? Probably, just a few of them were really hot.. but not as hot as Tombola can be.. a true game changer!

--------------UPDATE 24th sep 2018-----------

Dear cryptoenthusiasts

I took part on Tombola bounty campaign https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tombola-bounty-campaign-4837302

The task consisted of posting 10 messages weekly in Tombola's bitcointalk ANN.
It was named as "ANN moderation", we were told to leave positive comments regarding the project. Sounded strange to me, but I looked in the most common rating sites and assumed the project was legit and wasnt promoting a scam.
I saw high rating in ICObench and KYC passed, was enough for me.
#1 mistake: always do my own research


Now i have been looking deeper, looking at the previous messages in bitcointalk ANN and this seems very fishy. Seem they really changed the concept of the project, AFTER raising some funds, and that is why they were asking for positive comments.. to cover the bad comments from harmed investors!
They also did dupplicated payments to bounty members after bounty campaign ended, which would make me very angry if i were an investor, as price of token is diluted.
I also realized now that the message of bounty thread was edited.
Where it appears "You can help the team explain to other users how Tombala works".. and i can promise for my babys life, this is very different of what was stated previously as task( something sumarized as: " post positive comments about Tombola").
I am already dissapointed with myself as i think that i was helping this team raising money by not being honest to people. I promise i regret it very much and hope you havent invested a cent on this.

i checked the balance.s.and seems 94% concentrated in few accounts... this seems strange!

I also hope investors accept  my apologies (+ also for my bad english).



Sorry for the long message and best regards

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There anyone can explain the changes in whitepaper? Because this become alarming to all us especially who invest a big money, they invest because what the plan before but if they change without announcement this is big problem.
The white paper change? thats why we need to see the telegram of this project. cause we dont know if its active right now or what anyone could give the telegram of this tambola.

Posted below small parts that were obviously different in the whitepaper. Check out this gem that they left in the whitepaper

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B-2. Transparency in the use of funds
As for the existing state lotteries, on average, only 50% of the funds are distributed to the winners, and the remaining amount is not fully explained about its use, lacking in transparency. There are some companies that wrote about its approximate ratio of use of the remaining funds, but in reality, many lottery operators are wasting the funds on their excessive or unnecessary operating expenses, and they are paying a lot of taxes, too. They do not disclose detailed amounts and proof of expenditure to users who purchased the actual lottery tickets, either.

So the government lotteries aren't transparent enough but Tombola changing the whitepaper and protocol mid-ICO is TRUSTWORTHY?!?!

TOMBOLA is not TRANSPARENT with investors and wont be transparent with customers if they act like this during ICO.

People that hold TBL Token will lose money before the shitcoin become worthless...

Here is another change to "Speed Lotto" they made:
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E. 5/20 Speed Lotto
The winning rate is higher than the Tombola 6/45, as the winning probability is lower if the five of the 20 numbers are hit. The second and third, fourth winners will be paid in advance, 20 percent will be turned over to the next game, 10 percent will be excluded as a fee, and all money will be received by the jackpot.
Ticket price: 0.0001 BTC, 0.001 ETH, 0.05 EOS, 10 TBL
Gap of draw: 24 hours
Distribution of game revenue

Now it says:
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E. 5/20 Speed Lotto
10 % is tombola operating expenses . 20% of amount will automatically be transferred
to the pool of next rounds. If there are winners, 70% will be paid to them. And the
remaining amount is all will be transferred to the pool of next rounds.

Ticket price:0.0001 BTC, 0.001 ETH, 0.001 BCH, 10 TBL
Gap of draw:24 hours
Rewards of game

And under FAIRNESS OF TOMBOLA, it used to say:

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A. Fairness of Tombola
A-1. Blockchain
A blockchain is a data distribution processing technology. In other words, it refers to a technology in which all users participating in the network distribute and store data such as all transaction details. It is named as a blockchain because it is a connection of blocks in the form of chains. In a blockchain, a ‘block’ is a ledger where personal data and personal transaction (P2P) data are recorded. After these blocks are formed, they have a structure of ‘chain’ sequentially connected over time. Every user has a transaction history, so when verifying transaction details, you should check and verify the ledgers held by all users. For this reason, the blockchain is also referred to as a “public transaction ledger” or “distributed transaction ledger”.
Like the existing banks, blockchains also store and prove. However, the transaction details are stored in each block for all the participating people rather than in the bank as in the existing method, and if 100 people are involved in one network, the transaction details of A and B are created as 100 blocks and transmitted to all the blocks for the 100 people and stored. If you want to check the transaction details later, you can connect and check the data saved in each block.
The blockchain is characterized by distributed storage. In the existing trading methods it is possible to forge or alter data by attacking the central server of the bank. Considering the recent hacking of several banks, this is not an impossible threat. In blockchains, however, it is difficult to forge or alter data because many people store the same data. If you try to forge or alter them, it is virtually impossible because you have to forge or alter all the data of the innumerable people.

Tombola shortened it to:
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A-1. Blockchain
In   a   blockchain,   a   ‘block’   is   a   ledger   where   personal   data   and   personal  
transaction   (P2P)   data   are   recorded.   After   these   blocks   are   formed,   they  
have   a   structure   of   ‘chain’   sequentially   connected   over   time.   Every   user   has  
a   transaction   history,   so   when   verifying   transaction   details,   you   should   check  
and  verify  the  ledgers  held  by  all  users.  For  this  reason,  the  blockchain  is  also  
referred   to   as   a“public   transaction   ledger”   or   “distributed   transaction   ledger”.
however, it is difficult to forge or alter data because many people store the same data. If
you try to forge or alter them, it is virtually impossible because you have to forge or alter
all the data of the innumerable people.

All the Airdrop and bounty token holders are going to sell on day 1 and tank this altcoin, there is no reason this project needs to even launch with all the competition already doing this.
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I regret that I have not previously participated in companies associated with games and lotteries, but looking at you, I understand that these are very good projects.
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Anytime you got a problem with any of the online casinos, whether it’s with payments or bonuses, i strongly encourage you to fill out a complaint form.. and leave your comment in internet.. so people realize how often this happens, and shift from this scamming gambling sites to a honest one like Tombola!

TOMBOLA IS SCAMMING PEOPLE!

THE PROJECT WAS ON EOS THEY LAUNCHED THE ICO FOR, A FEW DAYS AGO THEY DECIDED IT ISNT ON EOS NOW

IF THEY DONT REFUND PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THE TOKEN PREVIOUS TO CHANGING THE WHITEPAPER THEY ARE SCAMMERS
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I also agree that the choice of platform is an interesting decision. EOS is a faster and more dynamic platform, so let it be. Only future will tell how right it is.


Yes indeed and I totally agreed to what you have said! Getting in touch and partnered with EOS whose more dynanic than other Network, I think this will be one of the best and successful partnership I've ever see.
I also have the same opinion,for me personally,this cooperation with such a successful platform as EOS, is a great indicator and because of this inspires confidence in the gaming platform Tombola.It remains to wish the team success on this path and I expect access to major exchanges.
Ibe heard and read that Tombola made a change on their white paper. Changes from EOS to ERC20 has been done. Tombola needs to explain on what happened so that we can understand why change suddenly.
We are all worried about this. But for some reason, we do not find the answer to this question.

Tombola is hiding from it and having their shills post "great project" here and it's obvious.

Their whitepaper used to say:

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B-3. Problems of the existing blockchain lottery services
As for the conventional blockchain lottery services, they use bit coin and ethereum for their services. First of all, as for companies that use Bitcoin for their services, they manage the collected amount centrally through their own server that controls the amount of money due to the disadvantage of Bitcoin without smart contract function and distribute the prize money. This implies that they can manipulate the results at any time, or they can flee at night with the huge prize money.
As for Ethereum lottery services, you must pay an Ethereum gas fee. Ethereum has an Ethereum Gas (Gwei) that you have to pay to run smart contract codes in your structure. In the order of the higher amount to be paid for this gas, the miners have a system where they establish deals and must pay accordingly a kind of fee in addition to the Ethereum they must actually use. Although the lottery ticket amount includes fees, the user has to pay fees again. Currently Ethereum has a processing speed that can handle 100 transactions every 15 seconds. While Visa, a global credit card company, handles up to 25,000 transactions per second and China’s Alipay handles up to 50,000 transactions per second, Ethereum has a far slower speed. If a user receives a large amount of money as a jackpot, no one knows how long it will take to receive the prize money.

But they change the whole project with no info about why it isn't on EOS now or why ETH isnt a problem with what they wanted to do.

Ethereum was flooded with requests when crypto kitties hit and almost crashed the network.

And Tombola whitepaper said:

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D. Tombola with EOS DAWN. 3.0
Tombola plans to build coins and serve platforms based on EOS to solve the problems of existing block chain lottery and game services. Based on EOS blockchain Smart Contractor system, when the terms of the contract are met, it is designed to automatically send the amount of money at the correct time to the appropriate location. EOS has the advantage of being able to handle millions of projects per second and not having to pay for the Gas Fee the user has to use most often. Thus, users can eliminate the burden of double payment of fees and receive rewards quickly.

They had shills posting in here that EOS Lottery was so innovative for weeks in this thread! NOW THEY AREN'T DOING IT?!?!

@Tombola needs to refund people who bought the TBL token when they had the other whitepaper and project was different. Everyone knows the token will drop when the bounty and airdrop tokens get released and everyone sells that is shilling this thing right now.
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Anytime you got a problem with any of the online casinos, whether it’s with payments or bonuses, i strongly encourage you to fill out a complaint form.. and leave your comment in internet.. so people realize how often this happens, and shift from this scamming gambling sites to a honest one like Tombola!
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Just want to know i see the road map why there's no exact date of when they will put the tambola on the exchange they just put 2018 sorry im just a newbie at this thank you for the one will answer my question
actually this is not a part of the whitepaper to put there the exchange, the roadmap is all about the plan of the project until it a success and ongoing run the system, if you want to know about the exchange you must join to their telegram.
about the exchange i know that after ico success theres a pre sale method then after that exchange liat will release jist my opinion correct me if im a wrong.
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I also agree that the choice of platform is an interesting decision. EOS is a faster and more dynamic platform, so let it be. Only future will tell how right it is.


Yes indeed and I totally agreed to what you have said! Getting in touch and partnered with EOS whose more dynanic than other Network, I think this will be one of the best and successful partnership I've ever see.
I also have the same opinion,for me personally,this cooperation with such a successful platform as EOS, is a great indicator and because of this inspires confidence in the gaming platform Tombola.It remains to wish the team success on this path and I expect access to major exchanges.
Ibe heard and read that Tombola made a change on their white paper. Changes from EOS to ERC20 has been done. Tombola needs to explain on what happened so that we can understand why change suddenly.
We are all worried about this. But for some reason, we do not find the answer to this question.
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