Topic: [ANN] [TOR] Torcoin - X11 PoW - Tor Integrated Crypto - Torcoin.org - page 87. (Read 125364 times)

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I'm glad. I really didn't want my sig to be about you. lol

How could I screw over Bittrex by CREATING cryptos? Richie makes money from Bittrex, a very nice sum from the fees of transactions made there, including my coins that were on his exchange....If anything I made him a lot more money than he usually does from the amount of coins I had produced that actually worked, if he delisted them, that was his own choice, the coins still work just fine.

I will quote an old user here:

"Carsen might be an asshole, but at least hes a good coder".

Kinda hard to be nice to people like you. I have no problem in being kind to those who deserve respect though, you sir do not.



Yea I will leave it all up, I am more than glad to be transparent.

Hate me all you want @trolls. Im not leaving.

Cant wait to share the awesome stuff coming today!

(Submitted TOR to Shapeshift, they added it to their discovery list, so its always a possibility to pop up there sometime).

I like Ritchie, but I don't think he even knows me. I like Bittrex, but the only coins I have lost money on were Bittrex ICOs or acted like being listed there was a big deal. I don't really use Bittrex. I use Yobit the most, to be honest, and I know people call it a scammy exchange. I don't agree. When I got hacked in 2016 Yobit was the most secure exchange for me. They protected my account better than any other exchange did. All were successful, because of 2FA, but Yobit was successful before 2FA was even considered. I've also made more profit off of Yobit shitcoin pnds than any other investments in Crypto. Maybe that's sad, idk, but it works for me.

My only regret with Tor so far is that I stopped mining it. I could easily have a few k, but I stopped mining it because of the low block reward and 30k sat value. Shortsighted. I'm learning from my mistakes, like I assume you have too. 3 years is a long time and is definitely enough time to learn the full stack. Even the way tech changes in that short time, it's insane.

One thing that has never made sense to me about all these scams people do. Why don't they do it properly? It's so easy to raise thousands of BTC. It doesn't make sense to me. If you're going to scam people you should at least do it well enough that you don't have to come back and do it again. lol.

Already profited off of it. Enough said.

He can bail, but he's not bailing with my money. I already am in the green. No fucks given.

I did, but the link you provided is not as good as the one I provided. Read the edited post. I asked you to prove your claims, it took me like 30 seconds to find more evidence than you posted in your hours of posting on this thread. You can't even post the correct link to evidence your claims.

TOR doesn't have to be successful for me to profit. Already happened. If it dies it dies, but if it doesn't I make more money. Following this strategy has me making nothing but profit regardless how scammy a coin or developer is. The only coins I lose on are ICOs with escrow, legit development teams, and a ton of support and reputation to stand on. This could change in a year or two, depends what these different coins do.

If Karsen deletes my post with the correct link then that will further illustrate your point. I'll even put it as my sig if he deletes it. I don't think he will, though. If he wants to prove he's not a scammer he won't do it by hiding his past from the community.

Well honestly I have bad blood with Richiela from Bittrex, he is kind of a big asshole. He promised all of what I was promising for that coin (putting it on Bittrex and allowing distribution like that etc.), and then didn't do anything. Making me look bad in the end.

Thats hardly scamming, I promised something that I was extremely confident about and got let down by the person promising it to me. There was also hardly any interest in the coin, thus probably another reason he didn't list it, I dont own or operate Bittrex, so calling me a scammer because my coin didn't get on Bittrex, is really ignorant. Thats one of a plethora of exchanges available...

Like the user above stated, there were no exchanges for CKCoin and I gained nothing from it..besides experience.

Thank you for finally attempting to provide some evidence.

How is this evidence of a scam? There doesn't even appear to have been pools for that coin, let alone exchanges. There was no IPO and no premine. Can you explain to me what makes this a scam?

Edit: Here is the correct thread, with proper accusations. - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ckcoin-ck-x13-encrypted-messaging-bittrex-distribution-launched-726101

I just don't see what he did with this specific coin to scam anyone. It looks like there may have been some early mining rewards that were going to him that probably shouldn't have been, and the distribution never happened. It was called a scam from page 1 and appeared to have a group of people that were heavily invested in bringing the coin down. Regardless if he intended on following through or not, it was likely difficult to make progress with that many people saying negative things.

Oc linked a better list here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7928773

Will TOR suffer a similar fate? Possibly. There are some people here that seem very interested in seeing the coin fail. Maybe thetorcoin is Karsen too. I don't know one way or another. That's why I follow the golden rule. Only invest what you're willing to lose.

That's good constructive criticism and I do agree, people should keep an eye on their investment. I'm not even necessarily sticking up for the dev, just asking for actual evidence of a scam, but like you said. Isiscoin doesn't sound like a legit project to me. That sounds like a coin intended to capitalize on a pnd, but imo there is a difference between a shitcoin and a scam. I don't know the specifics of Isiscoin. I think it's fair to ask what specifically made it a scam. If money wasn't taken under a false pretense, is it a scam? Or a failure? Is every failed coin a scam? Every coin we lose money on? Or just every coin the developer gives up on? What's defines these coins as a scam. Is a pnd even a scam? We should all be able to spot them by now. A lot of miner profits come from fake pumps too. I know I don't feel scammed by Takencoin and that was definitely developed for the sole purpose of a pnd.

I don't think creating a coin for the sole purpose of pumping and dumping it is a textbook definition for scamming. I think we might have to update the textbooks to include that, maybe, but as of now I don't think it would be considered a textbook definition of "scam". Someone loses and someone wins. That's probably true regardless of how much of a "scam" a coin is. Issuing a new currency to try and make money isn't any more of a scam than it's a scam for a game to issue a currency and sell it to people as an item to use in that game. When that game fails, as they all eventually do. You have no grounds to reclaim those funds.

Also, last I checked cryptocurrencies generally class themselves as experimental and everything is expected to be at your own risk.

I was scammed by Paycoin, LIR, and possibly others. Time will tell. The problem is, everything looks like a scam until it doesn't. Bitcoin, Dash, and Ether have all looked like scams to some people, including me. Arguably, they still do. Mass-adoption has not been achieved for Bitcoin even. Many still can't wrap their head around the value of a Bitcoin and won't put their money into it. Plus the risk of volatility is too high.

I agree, maybe the dev is trying to rebuild his name. Or maybe he's trying to capitalize on those that haven't heard of his "scams". The warnings I've received on this thread haven't encouraged me to Google him. Even if he is apparently "famous" for scamming. They lack evidence. Even the point you outlined above, I have to make assumptions to consider him a scammer. I would have to look at Isiscoin and see where he took it and what he did with it before dropping the project. I feel like they're going to seem like shitty projects to me, but I have trouble calling something a scam if he didn't actually sell something that he didn't deliver. I believe someone should be able to provide evidence of that. I mean, he doesn't even have negative trust. There is nothing but some conjecture to suggest that he's a scammer.

I think anybody will call any project a scam if they didn't make money off of it. Especially if they lost. Are you saying if someone decides to buy a coin on an exchange without doing their own due diligence that they're the victim of a scam? Because why? What scammed them? Who? They decide to be greedy and capitalize on something because they read some candlesticks and think they can predict the future. We might as well consider Ether a scam because of the DAO hack. Or BTC a scam because of Mt Gox. Something happening in the past is not really evidence of it happening now.

Just wanted to drop in and say thank you to those sticking up for me, I appreciate your different perspectives. Its a breathe of fresh air reading some intelligent conversations this morning

I do want my name back and Torcoin is here to stay. Expect some very cool things to come out today too! 

I know what I did back in 2014 was wrong, thats why I am here now, doing this with my real name.

I think its going to be a lot more satisfying to see TOR succeed and to prove all these trolls wrong.

Perryl, I can see your point of view and I respect you for sticking up for the dev and giving him the benefit of the doubt. But see above and you posted proof of at least one of the coins dev had before was obviously created to be a scam. If he wanted to be taken serious as a dev then why would he create a coin that was purposefully made to not be legit? Simple answer, to scam people out of money. Creating a coin for the sole purpose of pump and dump is textbook definition of a scam. True, no one SHOULD have been stupid enough to invest in that coin, but we all know that not every one involved in crypto possesses a lot of common sense.

Maybe dev is trying to rebuild his name and be taken seriously as a dev. I certainly hope so for the sake of anyone investing more than a few $$$ in this coin. But I will go back to my first post in this thread and say that everyone invested in it should keep a steady eye on the exchange(s) and blockchain explorer for any signs of massive dumping. Given that block rewards are what, 1 Tor?, any massive dumping can only come from one of two people, or both, the creator and/or the dev as they are the only two major bag holders at the moment.

You haven't even opened ccex. Yet...


So why are you even talking about the volume then? Why do you name drop so much? Nobody cares who you know or think you know. You say 2 BTC like it's a lot. lol. Yeah, 2 BTC!

How would plagiarizing Tor fuck with me? It wouldn't affect me at all. I'm not a developer or a major holder. I'm just a guy that sees stupid comments and calls them out as stupid because they're stupid. I guess you're just upset that this "cocky Perryl noob" made you feel so stupid.

"Where do you see volatility?"

I died.

I havent even opened ccex, how the fuck would I know tor has been trading at over 250. Chillax brother, if u insist on behaving in such a way I will tell staby to dump this shit Dont play games with me, I know u need his support as hes the only BIG brother who has more than 2 bitcoins on ccex and thus could move the markets. I suspect that a retarded dude that plagiarized identity will soon make a similar thread for tor, just to fuck with this cocky perryl noob

Prove your claims or they are nothing but claims.

Not sure why you think you hit a nerve. Because you assumed I am someone else? You present yourself as some expert in research, why wouldn't I call you stupid for making a stupid assumption?

You simply haven't provided any evidence. I have asked you to explain your claims and you continue to refuse to. Suggesting you have no ground to stand on. Maybe I hit a nerve and you're trying to deflect? Why should I waste my time researching your claims when you won't even spend your time proving your own claims? Surely it would be a waste of my time to check into your claims. I even specified a coin and asked you, since you seem to be the expert in how much of a scammer Karsen is, but you don't have an answer. You just tell me to go look into it. If you want me to come to the same conclusion as you have, then explain to me exactly what it is that drove you to that conclusion.

Nobody should believe your claims without a good explanation. Look at ICOCountdown's presentation to Humaniq. That's how you make a scam accusation. Not with conjecture and assumptions.

The Dev just needs to prove his trolls wrong and develop TORCOIN into something great.

Then you yourself are too stupid to do research. Google me dumbass. lol. You can easily find my real name, picture, job, etc.

I've never heard of any of those coins. Sounds like shitcoins that were developed to be shitcoins. There are hundreds of those. I'm not wasting my time doing homework about your claims. If you have claims it's your job to prove them. Nobody will believe you otherwise.

What exactly did he di with "dreamcoin" that was a scam? Not following the roadmap? Is that all?

People were stupid enough to think isiscoin was a legit project?

Yes, I seriously haven't heard of Karsen because I don't really care about people. lol. I created my account in 2014 and never did anything serious with it, I came back in 2016 and got hacked when I downloaded a bad wallet, so I took a short break and came back around a month ago. Sockpuppet account? Paranoid much? lol. You can find me on Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, or anywhere else and see that my fat ass doesn't look anything like Karsen. Perryl or Perryll. That's my online identity and to be honest, it's my real name abbreviated. Assuming I am a sockpuppet account futher illustrates how people shouldn't believe you. Assumptions and conjecture.

Show me proof of an actual scam. Otherwise, don't you have better things to do?

Oh, and as for my membership status. I only post in this section. Do you know how points are accumulated? I assume you have to post in other sections to raise your score up. I posted a tiny bit in other sections and it improved my ranking, but I don't really have the time to spend on raising my rank. I use SMF on my site but I don't have that feature so I have no idea how it works. I guess it doesn't really matter anyways, I don't take rankings seriously. You probably bought that account.

You answered a question with a question. Is that proof you don't know any coins that he actually scammed people with? Seems so.

I already said I am not aware of any of his previous releases too. So you're asking me to name something you know I am not aware of. You're the one coming here with claims of his scams, but not providing any evidence of it.

So, by your logic, every time a project fails it's a scam. Ok. My definition of scam is different from yours. Also, if you knew that already, you would be smart enough to get out early and make profit. Bet you wouldn't call it a scam then. lol.

You outlined volatile performance. I was responding to that. Don't you know what volatility means?

75 BTC is a downward movement from the 250 BTC volume of the other day. This is volatility by definition. Especially when paired with the drop in value. What do you think volatility means?

I don't bother knowing people by name on exchanges. I don't care about any of you or what you do or don't do. I have no idea who does or doesn't buy what, but I can tell you that 90% of the people that actually throw money at Cryptos don't even speak English, let alone come to this forum.

75 BTC is more volume than many other coins combined. Go whine on their threads if that's so important to you.

If that's true, as thetorcoin already said, developers can be replaced. Karsen won't be the deciding factor, according to thetorcoin.

You just don't understand the point he is making in that comment.

Please, go ahead and outline a specific coin and exactly what he did to scam people with that coin.

Dumping a posted premine is not a scam. Do you need me to define scam for you? I'll give you a hint, it doesn't include transparently posting your premine, a fair launch, or using your real name.

Cryptos are not real - True. More so then than now. It is a fucking digital fake commodity - Also true. Anyone can generate a genesis block and create a coin - also true.

Giving up on a coin after being berated to the point that you move on, also not a scam.

LIR. Now that was a scam. Taking people's ICO money for a stated promise and not following through. That's a scam. If you guys had any proof of him doing that you would be posting that, not a 3-year-old comment where he made some douchy rant. Or Yocoin. A coin where most of the blocks generated would be orphans? That's a scam too. Is Take a scam? No. People decided to mine it. They didn't have to. The developer posted his scammy premine. It's not really a scam, though. If you choose to mine a currency because you wanted to cash in on it, does it even matter if it was a scam or not? Most miners don't even care. They just want to profit. As Karsen said, miners dumped more than he did - this is probably true at least some of the time.

I'm not saying he never scammed, but if you cling on that 3-year-old post as some proof that an asshole programmer is forever a scammer then your delusions are not worthy of a response. He could be scamming now, but there is no evidence of that. Just assumptions and conjecture. Programmers are dicks. This is true at least 90% of the time.

Where do u see the volatility? Current volume is less than 75 btc, no movements whatsoever. It has been proven time and again that pumping shits on ccex is the worst waste of time. It is not worth it. Who is currently buying that junk? Stabycroc? Anarchist prime? Maybe u reckon fucking noobs like valdez santiago or collete will buy into it? They can barely afford to keep 0.1 btc on there.