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July 05, 2017, 06:08:41 AM
I think that money going in gamma should equally increase the marketcap like going directly in xaurum. If I understand correctly 5-6 mio going in gamma is also increasing the base value of xaurum. But instead of going in gold it goes in real estate. I hope I am not wrong...
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July 05, 2017, 04:42:27 AM
Yes gamma is very good for xaurum I agree 100% but we must consider also another thing we are falling down by marketcap, if we will be going down soon we would not be on 1 page on CMC which is not good, nobody will see xaurum and there will be again less trading.
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July 05, 2017, 04:34:42 AM
I want to assure you global markets ARE in development. Business however does not happen overnight.
I agree no crypto currency reach the success overnight,there's continuous buildup and development and they should also address all concerns so give the team a chance anyway they are doing their best to come out with what is good for the community.

I see the problem is in people's unrealistic expectations. In 90s, 10 to 15% per year was really good investment deal. In year 2000 - 50% was like 'normal'. Then people start investing in different scams to get 15% per week. Nowadays everybody wants 10000% per month in crypto - well let me tell you guys, you won't become millionaire with $117 on your crypto acc. It just won't happen. Maybe some of you are the lucky ones, but others have to work or be creative to earn some money. So give Xaurum some space and time to grow. You can also buy some other shit coins or some new ico... Whoever is patient has great understanding, but one who is quick-tempered displays folly.

You miss the point my friend. It's just about time management. Developers time on Gamma means no developers time (or less) on Xaurum main project. Now think which one has more potential. The answer is clear. Gamma project means one month latter for new market. And new market is not just about 5M like ICO.

Why be a copy when you can be a special original? We have special original in xaurum, but we are trying to copy ICO hype. We should push the uniqueness of xaurum and not try to earn quick bucks with ICO. ICO is for starters, and we are xaurum. Where is winner mentality? I'm just saying that we don't need to loose time with ICO. We have something different and we should be proud and not copy the others. Bitcoin was unique and look at the price today, all copies are worth much less. We should also promote the uniqueness and not copy the short term ICO win.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think gamma is a step in the wrong direction (it will slow main xaurum down). At least the money from the investors will go to gamma instead of xaurum.

You should understand that what happens in Gamma  it s good for Xaurum too...bealive me I got answeres directly from devs and math is made very smart and unique again.
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July 05, 2017, 01:58:46 AM
I want to assure you global markets ARE in development. Business however does not happen overnight.
I agree no crypto currency reach the success overnight,there's continuous buildup and development and they should also address all concerns so give the team a chance anyway they are doing their best to come out with what is good for the community.

I see the problem is in people's unrealistic expectations. In 90s, 10 to 15% per year was really good investment deal. In year 2000 - 50% was like 'normal'. Then people start investing in different scams to get 15% per week. Nowadays everybody wants 10000% per month in crypto - well let me tell you guys, you won't become millionaire with $117 on your crypto acc. It just won't happen. Maybe some of you are the lucky ones, but others have to work or be creative to earn some money. So give Xaurum some space and time to grow. You can also buy some other shit coins or some new ico... Whoever is patient has great understanding, but one who is quick-tempered displays folly.

You miss the point my friend. It's just about time management. Developers time on Gamma means no developers time (or less) on Xaurum main project. Now think which one has more potential. The answer is clear. Gamma project means one month latter for new market. And new market is not just about 5M like ICO.

Why be a copy when you can be a special original? We have special original in xaurum, but we are trying to copy ICO hype. We should push the uniqueness of xaurum and not try to earn quick bucks with ICO. ICO is for starters, and we are xaurum. Where is winner mentality? I'm just saying that we don't need to loose time with ICO. We have something different and we should be proud and not copy the others. Bitcoin was unique and look at the price today, all copies are worth much less. We should also promote the uniqueness and not copy the short term ICO win.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think gamma is a step in the wrong direction (it will slow main xaurum down). At least the money from the investors will go to gamma instead of xaurum.
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July 05, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
I want to assure you global markets ARE in development. Business however does not happen overnight.
I agree no crypto currency reach the success overnight,there's continuous buildup and development and they should also address all concerns so give the team a chance anyway they are doing their best to come out with what is good for the community.

I see the problem is in people's unrealistic expectations. In 90s, 10 to 15% per year was really good investment deal. In year 2000 - 50% was like 'normal'. Then people start investing in different scams to get 15% per week. Nowadays everybody wants 10000% per month in crypto - well let me tell you guys, you won't become millionaire with $117 on your crypto acc. It just won't happen. Maybe some of you are the lucky ones, but others have to work or be creative to earn some money. So give Xaurum some space and time to grow. You can also buy some other shit coins or some new ico... Whoever is patient has great understanding, but one who is quick-tempered displays folly.
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July 05, 2017, 12:29:08 AM
Dev team its either sink or swim, be more transparent, answer questions of the community, provide proof, a FAQ page etc...or go to the next page in coinmarketcap, you went from ranking in the #60's to #85, soon you will be above #100 in coinmarketcap and you will be a forgotten coin of the past. Stop ignoring our questions when in theory you can answer them instantly instead of waiting days, months, if ever...
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July 04, 2017, 10:14:23 PM
I want to assure you global markets ARE in development. Business however does not happen overnight.
I agree no crypto currency reach the success overnight,there's continuous buildup and development and they should also address all concerns so give the team a chance anyway they are doing their best to come out with what is good for the community.
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Co-Founder at AlphaTradeZone.com
July 04, 2017, 07:23:05 AM
I want to assure you global markets ARE in development. Business however does not happen overnight.
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July 04, 2017, 07:15:13 AM
Guys, if you have any ideas for rapid growth of Xaurum and want to get involved why don't you engage directly with dev team? Smiley I am sure they will embrace any help.

You really don't have to be an expert to see that priorities are set wrong.

I admit, I couldn't do what they have done. But a lot of comments here make sense and they go unanswered and ignored. Developers are not all knowing and they should at least take notice of this discussion.
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July 04, 2017, 07:05:18 AM
Guys, if you have any ideas for rapid growth of Xaurum and want to get involved why don't you engage directly with dev team? Smiley I am sure they will embrace any help.
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July 04, 2017, 06:51:12 AM
Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.

Very optimistic calculation, but ok.

Now compare this to new market opportunities. 1M in a year is small change compared to investments that serious new country would bring. Developers should concentrate on Middle east, Russia, China, Germany, France and not on +1M in a year. Be serious here. Gamma is OK when those countries are covered, billions are walking past xaurum now.
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July 04, 2017, 06:48:51 AM
And yes 60 people are working strictly on xaurum marketing so there is no need to worry that they will loose their focus with gama project. In my opinion gama does not need no big marketing. It will be sold out anyways because it is great project. But that is just my opinion based on general interest in it.

I think by "secured already" he meant that there is great interest in gama project already.
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July 04, 2017, 06:40:43 AM
dtacken, be patient and wait for whitepapers. Smiley

Xaurum Gamma is only going to help Xaurum and won't slow it down. The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already.

No need to worry about that so much. And besides - Xaurum is expanding and slowly going global, so chances are we will see much more rapid growth in the upcoming months till YE 2017.

It will slow it down because people will have to work on it and not on other things about xaurum that should be solved long ago.

A question about "The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already." How is this possible? ICO is starting next week... Either this is a false statement or some insiders have special offer (special treatment), which is never the idea of ICO (initial coin offering). Please explain!
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July 04, 2017, 06:38:59 AM
i don´t think the gold increasing will slow down because of gamma. 60 promotros are working to promote xaurum, for gamma there will be ICO no need to seek for new investors, promotors promote xaurum. I think GAMMA is a great idea in meanwhile we should not sleep, we should help xaurum to grew by marketcap and by gold of course.
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Co-Founder at AlphaTradeZone.com
July 04, 2017, 06:29:43 AM
dtacken, be patient and wait for whitepapers. Smiley

Xaurum Gamma is only going to help Xaurum and won't slow it down. The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already.

No need to worry about that so much. And besides - Xaurum is expanding and slowly going global, so chances are we will see much more rapid growth in the upcoming months till YE 2017.
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July 04, 2017, 05:58:47 AM
- Dtacken they are focusing on everything. But there is a lot of work to do. We need to be patient.  
- Xaurum is and it will stay the boss.
- Andone3 you are right. Its 50% 50%. Half of the profit goes for buying new gold for Xaurum and the other half for building new villas.
- dtacken in the mean time part of Xaurum team (about 60 people) is still working on promotion of Xaurum and bringing new investors in.

If 60 people is really working on promotion and bringing new investors in, I would like to know if they are persuading new investors to invest in Xaurum or Gamma project? They cannot persuade to do them both. If you want to invest 10k USD, you can either invest in one thing or another. If you want to split it and invest some money in Xaurum and some in Gamma, then that is bad for Xaurum at this moment. Period. We could have more gold right now if investors will invest in Xaurum directly, but this cannot happen if we will have to wait for another year or two for villas to be built.

Can someone explain the ownership of the Gamma project? Is Auresco Institute in charge of Gamma project? Or is this Gamma project just an idea of one people who was (or is) working in Xaurum team and Xuaurum team is now working with hand in hand with him (them)?

I am still a huge suporter of Xaurum at the moment and I still own a lot of Xaurums. But as an investor I currently see this Gamma project as a threat because Xaurum gold increasing will now slow down.
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July 04, 2017, 05:02:27 AM
Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.

Nice example. I think It's a great thing for Xaurum and in long term also very profitable for Gama holders. I will for sure support it.
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July 04, 2017, 04:48:00 AM
- Dtacken they are focusing on everything. But there is a lot of work to do. We need to be patient.  
- Xaurum is and it will stay the boss.
- Andone3 you are right. Its 50% 50%. Half of the profit goes for buying new gold for Xaurum and the other half for building new villas.
- dtacken in the mean time part of Xaurum team (about 60 people) is still working on promotion of Xaurum and bringing new investors in.

I have to strongly object the first point! You can not have focus on everything! Main rule of business. If you focus on everything, you are somewhere in average in everything and nowhere top. Do we want this? You have to focus on one thing to really make it something special.

Now lets take working time of developers into the calculation. Time spent on gamma is time not spent on xaurum (main thing). Sure, gamma will bring some profit, but wouldn't it be better to spend time to bring xaurum to new markets? This would bring a lot more benefit to community than slow gamma with villas. Lets say developers took one month for gamma. In one month we could bring xaurum to Austria for example (doubling the market cap soon, in my opinion). When will gamma double the market cap?

In my opinion the gamma is ok, but should be played when the promotion and new countries are well covered. The "slow" gamma now, stops us in more profitable areas. Each person has only 24h a day (minus sleep and personal life...). Each hour spent on gamma is bad for xaurum marketing, new offices, corrected web pages, grammar (image as a whole). Sometimes xaurum really looks like half serious project. Lets bring the xaurum (gold) to its full potential (or at least 80%) before we start another project. Will gamma also be stopped at 20% because new idea will arise? Sorry guys but this doesn't look professional and promising. You are jumping from one flower to another. Was this idea ever written in the vision of xaurum or was this ICO idea just created and done without thinking on a vision? Can we read anywhere the vision or future goals? What are the next steps? Investors are left in the dark in this area.

I think some comments (concerns) in this forum are very good and the developers should answer them (not the promotors, but the developers!).
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July 04, 2017, 04:46:07 AM
http://www.autobroker.si/prodaja-vozil/si/i/lamborghini-huracan-dozivetje.php

Its in Slovenian language but another great idea. You can rent cars from autobroker only with Xaurum.
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July 04, 2017, 04:15:50 AM
Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.
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