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I agree with you.In my opinion i have to say let's dumpers dump their coins.As they dump all their coins then we can buy more and pump it easily.

I kind of agree, the noise from ICO holders is little to nothing, only dev knows the holding ratio of ICO holders - how powerful are they?
We are still hovering around 10k .. So I think f-all personally. In fact the only people that could possibly dump down to that level are ICO buyers at 10k. Those bastards are not our friends - only leaches and we need to shake them out. Clearly it won't be ICO holders driving price, the incentive will come from new buyers.

Make it equal and be done with it.

Not saying it's the right decision, but it seems like the best one.

Too complicated. All CLD is to be valued the same, all profit is to be shared equally among those that met the threshold. It ain't a tricky decision- let get it sorted already dev - the coin is getting dumped.

Yes its simple the ICO coins acts as A-stocks as long as they remain intact in their wallets, if moved they become B-stocks.

O'RLY? A/B/C/whatever stocks have no place in the Crypto Wild West. The new world is about honesty and deceit combined into one. It's honest for those who are smart. It is deceitful for those who don't deserve to live in the first place. No more tricky shit! Give me the real deal!

+100500 except the fact that no other coin should be created and all shares should be spread equally.

Read the rest of the message you quoted pal.

Cmon dont you guys also have A-stocks and B-stocks in some companys where the A-stocks often are higher valued, may pay out a higher amount / stock yearly and also have alot more voting power within the company per stock compared to B-stocks.
This is no school yard democracy here where each and everyone gets equal time on the swings, this is the wild west of cryptos.
If seen from a legal point it would be the ICO holders that should complain.
12% for ICO & for 12% none ICO is "fair", that is even very generous by Xcloudcoin and ICO`s.


 
 

It is NOT a fair solution, nor is it a legal solution. It is sound law in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Great Britain that ALL shareholders (all those who hold CLD) are to be treated equally and when dividends are paid out they must all be paid out at the same rate per share.

The ONLY way around this is to create two different types of shares - or two different 'coins' in this case - One coin for ICO holders (CLD #A) and one coin for everyone else (CLD#B). There is no other way to do it legally and since there is no way the Dev wants to create two different types of Cloudcoin there is only one legal solution - All shareholders must be treated equally; all CLD holders who meet the threshold will be paid either 10% or 14% of the profits.

Like it or lump it - that is the law and if this coin has ANY chance at becoming reputable and used throughout the world it must abide by the law sooner rather than later.

Some random thoughts I've got after reading today's developments.

001. The profit sharing system was not clearly expressed during ICO. That's a post-contractual change which is illegal in the modern fucked-up world and immoral in our emerging Crypto Wild West. It's reminiscent of the concept of ex post factum law which is a pretty fucked up idea. If you don't know what ex post factum means, google it, oafs.
002. A combination of exchange medium (currency) and a share is a bold novel idea. It definitely deserves attention. Gives me a weird hard-on too...  
003. I still didn't get the answer to my question: does buying ICO, dumping, and then buying back make me the "ICO" type of holder?
004. I couldn't register for the second lottery. Despite the fact that this time I have actually registered a twitter account, the website told me that I can't register. That's my only complaint towards IconicExpert so far.
005. Creating different rules for ICO and non-ICO holders is not just unfair. It diminishes the attractiveness of new investment and thus diminishes the inflow of new money which could prop the currency.
006. No, I'm not selling my CLD to you. I'm holding for now.
007. If I do get the 14% as an IPO investor, I'll donate the 4% to those who invested in IPO as a protest because this system is un-fucking-fair and damaging for the coin. However, I don't have the time to verify the post-IPO investment. Can anyone help me verifying those? Anyone with me on the donation protest?
008. Registering a twitter account was somewhat psychologically difficult for me. I don't tweet. I'm a fucking cat, not a damn bird!
009. I'm shitfaced right now because it's the only state of mind in which I can post here.
010. In my previous post I forgot to thank Mr. Flintstone for registering my address in the lottery. The win of 1k CLD covered my popcorn and then some Hennessy and fried chicken.
011. HoldTheLine seems to be the only poster here that doesn't make me throw up.
012.
666. PROFIT!

Truly yours,
C/U

PS: Fucking meow! Peace

Seriously? The Dev gave a fair solution.

As someone who could of taken the ICO up but didn't, I think those with the balls to make that sort of commitment should be rewarded rightly so.

Life's a gamble.

No .. Now you're making three different CLD coins  

ICO investors get 14% Profit Share Percent for 10,000 CLD  
Non ICO investors get 14% Profit Share Percent for 20,000 CLD

Keep the Profit Share Percentage the same for everyone
Just change the number of CLD required to distinguish between ICO and non ICO investors

Triff ..

So i was thinking 4%, 8% and 10%


cloudsend testing will begin tonight, ill keep everyone update once the first cloudsend transaction goes on the network.

I think the most easy way is to go with 1 investor level at 10k or maybe 5k for none-ICO, if someone wants more then 1 share of 10% dividend they just buy another 5k
and get dividend for 2 shares.  That way people can choose their own investor level and you guys dont have to manage 4 different types of dividend payouts.
Anyway i think that is a part pseudo discussion, how many registered none ICO shareholders is there at the moment?
5K sounds nice personally im at 2900 currently getting a little every day from trade/mining surplus.

Any news on other development, the mining op, e-mail function or the cloudsend.
A estimated timeline for current development and implementation would be neat.

This may help keep everyone happy, what percentages will be on offer for 5K, 10K and 20K?

Also how is the cloud send coming along?

Hi everyone,


Just to be clear 14% was a one time deal for the ICO investor witch happen during the ICO period, what i think we could do is a 3 tier investor levels, 5k, 10k and 20k .

That's more like it.

I'm looking forward to seeing the anon e-mail being implemented, as I would like to use it for my self, also with all the NSA and GHCQ spying, I think a lot of people would also sign up for that as well.

It's not fud, it's a conversation that clearly needed to happen. With that being said, I do believe it has been discussed enough. Let's come back together as a community and focus on the bright future we have ahead of us.

You guys need to stop FUDDING your own coin.

I dont know how many intact ICO lots that exists but i guess its a couple of handfuls at most.
One fair way would be 12%/12% split minimum 10k coins for both ICO and none ICO.
There will be so many more none ICO lots anyway, i think it fair that intact ICO lots generate higher payout then none ICO.
This would preserve the investment of the ICO lots and it would end all FUD about % here or there.
Initial investments should be rewarded -thats the entire point of high risk = high reward!