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Topic: [ANN] [XEL] :: XEL - The Decentralized Supercomputer :: - page 39. (Read 253664 times)

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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
i think that we can talk about investors only for coins or tokens with an ico. An ico in which some devs or people ask for money, an ico where there is a program, a whitepaper with deadlines.

Or maybe not even in that case? What do you think about?
I think that we should ignore people who are just using their accounts for signature campaigns, i.e., people who are just writing random stuff to get the bounty...
"Often when we guess at others' motives, we reveal only our own"
-Mara Sov
jr. member
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i think that we can talk about investors only for coins or tokens with an ico. An ico in which some devs or people ask for money, an ico where there is a program, a whitepaper with deadlines.

Or maybe not even in that case? What do you think about?
I think that we should ignore people who are just using their accounts for signature campaigns, i.e., people who are just writing random stuff to get the bounty...
hero member
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i think that we can talk about investors only for coins or tokens with an ico. An ico in which some devs or people ask for money, an ico where there is a program, a whitepaper with deadlines.

Or maybe not even in that case? What do you think about?
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Many investors have ...

Sorry to ruin your fairytale, but there are no investors. If you were promised otherwise, then you have been fooled!

and the developers in this direction are not moving forward.

So do you mean they are not working? Or do you rather mean that you have no idea whether they are working or not because you have not even spent one single minute genuinely becoming part of the development process and finding out what the éminence grises are doing behind the curtains? My hunch: you do not really care, your history of pushing hundreds of coins to "go on an exchange", participating in Twitter advertising campaigns and going full-hype on random coins with no innovation with phrases like - let me quote - the coin "will be recognized at the national level - clearly outlines what kind of agenda you have. Nobody here will altruistically help you to make "much profit".


Come back when genuine interest you have, my young padawan.

 Cheesy Cheesy Good stuff EK, question...Is there a there a timeframe in which you have to claim your $XEL. I still have not claimed my tokens. I feel they're safer in there until I'm ready to take them out.
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Many investors have ...

Sorry to ruin your fairytale, but there are no investors. If you were promised otherwise, then you have been fooled!

and the developers in this direction are not moving forward.

So do you mean they are not working? Or do you rather mean that you have no idea whether they are working or not because you have not even spent one single minute genuinely becoming part of the development process and finding out what the éminence grises are doing behind the curtains? My hunch: you do not really care, your history of pushing hundreds of coins to "go on an exchange", participating in Twitter advertising campaigns and going full-hype on random coins with no innovation with phrases like - let me quote - the coin "will be recognized at the national level - clearly outlines what kind of agenda you have. Nobody here will altruistically help you to make "much profit".


Come back when genuine interest you have, my young padawan.
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SquidCoin.cash

When will forging be available in the platform? Many investors have long been able to profit from this. But we are all waiting, and the developers in this direction are not moving forward. I would like this function to work.
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I had bought some XEL off Heat exchange and sent it to my XEL wallet. Now I took a picture of the passphrase, but my phone died and I cannot retrieve it anymore. I still have access to the wallet due to auto login on my computer and I have my public key and account ID. Anything I can do to retrieve my passphrase, or can I somehow transfer the funds to a new account? Thanks
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The web page is not operational for months in you guys are expecting this coin will skyrocket?  Smiley Who are you kidding?

Noob account that offers trading advice? Oh boy, teach me master.
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Keep going EK!

Internet of Coins also supports XEL, as it was a breeze to integrate it, and the API worked out of the box. It shows real and constructive development, and the quality of this project is fine.

It takes time to build something beautiful.
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lol this project doesn't need a working website right now anyways.  Pretty sure the official URL is something else anyways.  Check back in a few months
legendary
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And how will that be if even web page isn't working?

Maybe it's just me who doesn't understand your "logic", but what the heck does a website have to do with a decentralised blockchain-driven work distribution protocol?
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Quiero mi bocadillo
And how will that be if even web page isn't working?

What's the smell of clouds?  Huh The time will shows
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And how will that be if even web page isn't working?
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Quiero mi bocadillo
The web page is not operational for months in you guys are expecting this coin will skyrocket?  Smiley Who are you kidding?

I dont want xel skyrocket i want xel working 🤪 I dont knew if you and others can understand this?... allways the same shit...  bla, bla, bla... price... moon... 🤨
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The web page is not operational for months in you guys are expecting this coin will skyrocket?  Smiley Who are you kidding?
hero member
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Do you remember how nice and challenging the discussions have been here around two years ago? Many brilliant and outstanding minds were brainstorming productively about how things can be made better, about flaws in the initial designs and constantly improved upon all the little challenging design questions that emerged as time progressed? Well, that was the time where the passion and the fun developing this thing were gaining new heights every day. This is also when it was fun to share the latest discoveries and expose them to public discussion.

Things unfortunately rapidly changed with the recent growth of the crypto bubble which seems to have attracted a very special specimen of mankind and almost killed even the last spark of passion that all these wonderful crypto projects deserve. Yes, I am talking about these self-proclaimed "investors", those who buy a token from some other guy and just don't understand that the only think they did was to simply buy a token from some random third party on the internet. Instead, they really believe they have some shares, voting rights or whatever in some company which does not exist. Lol, I mean they really believe that when they buy a Diet Coke from a street vendor (not even from Coca Cola itself) in the Central Park, they can show up at the next Coca Cola board meeting, pretend to be "investors" and make all sorts of demands. This is crazy! Besides, these people have just one agenda - get rich quick. And to achieve that, they hang around the slack channel like fucking vultures trying to make everyone work according to their schedule. The schedule of course only has one objective - increasing their own benefit. The progress of the project isn't even on their radar, that's why they would be also fine with updates that are no real updates at all - as long as you can use them to hype (or scare away) the crowd ...

If you happen to be in a good mood and give an update, those people immediately exploit your good will to use that information in some pump (or dump) schemes - for example in those telegram groups. This, how could it be different, just multiplies the problem and drags in more of these guys. Some have been fooled by those pump groups, some want to pump even more - so they come to the channel again (each one with different motives) and press hard to force the "long time lurkers" into doing some stupid things that they think might become beneficial to them. The one wants "marketing", the other an "update", yet another wants commitments - but none of them really wants the project lol.  

You won't believe how blunt these requests are. What these people just don't understand is: nobody will be doing any of this crap, nobody will listen to any random selfish requests and nobody will support any pumps on telegram groups! Every single request like "give me update! I am an investor" is just a waste of the time typing these words. It's just as if your dog stood up on his hind legs and said "fuck this shit! I'm outta here!". It just won't happen.

Since this is the dominating picture at the moment, I am sure that it is forgivable that those people, who once were so passionately engaged in this, dodge the bullet and run for the hills. What do you expect. I am almost finished and it is my personal goal to finish that (in my eyes very sophisticated) system as we have discussed it. But really, with these second generation crypto people around, I will make sure to not focus any less on making a good documentation so that someone else (with stronger nerves) can adopt what I have done and hopefully improve upon it.

I am by the way not generalising this, I know that most of you guys are honest and that your heart is in the right place. The problem is that even if only 1% are like this (so out of 10.000 slack users, 100 go nuts), it is already enough to kill any remaining attraction - it must be the negativity bias!

this is what crypto's world need! More post like this!
I know, money are important, but the idea, the potentiality behind the crypto's world can be unimaginable.

I have xel, since months right now. I keep waiting. We are in good hands, i know. Don't give up, please!
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Nice post EK, it's not only Elastic's problem, almost every projects have the same problem. And you can't imagine what's goin on with projects which held an ICO, the very same type of people that you described perfectly are calling scams everywhere because their tokens didn't make a 10X in value after a couple weeks. It's exactly how you described, they buy some token/coin or join an ICO and they feel entitled to put pressure on developers so they can sell their tokens/coins for a profit. But you know what? Don't worry, these people are eventually going to lose their money because they see only some kind of speculative game and they don't see the real thing, the revolution that guys like you are starting
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Hi guys, I just saw that more than half of all XEL (50,698,500 of 89,390,937) are on the BitTrex account (XEL-AQVJ-PPCK-QJYJ-8T65V)  Roll Eyes
It's bad practice and undermines the idea of decentralization... please think about it if you have your XEL on BitTrex and consider putting it on a private account.
Have a nice weekend!
hero member
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Thanks for the update EK, with as many scams as I've witnessed and gone through since 2013, it's always nice to get periodic updates and appearances from the main devs just to instill some confidence in us donators.   
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I don't know how to explain this feeling, but somehow I feel a tiny bit more clever after reading your post. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

I also feel ashamed for being part of this group you mentioned even though I wouldn't consider myself this type of "investor".
I decided to get involved and learn about blockchains and cryptocurrencies on September, then found some projects that I liked and since then I've "invested" in them by buying, holding and writing a good word of encouragement to the team now and then. I wish I could do more but all I know is HTML, PHP, some basic SQL and VBA, I can't offer technical help to any project.

Did the potential of money lured me in? Yes... but in no way I would throw my principals out of the window in order to get rich fast. I want to live a simple life and have a safenet of money in cryptocurrencies.
At the moment I'm "crunching" scientific projects for a better world instead of "mining" for money using BOINC. Great project in case people would want to support it.

Since I'm new to the forums, I don't know about you Knievel. What is the project you're saying you're working on? Elastic? The idea sounds intresting and I'd like to get involved.
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