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Hey,

I wanted to give mining a try. Is it worth it though with a hashrate like this? I got a i7 6700K...
The mining pool site isn't really helping, it shows 0.00 everywhere Cheesy

legendary
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P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner

Pretty crazy that a Pentium can compete with an i7. Anyone testing with 4 channel memory should try my optimized miner.
It's no faster with 2 channel memory but with 4 channels the AVX2 code might speed things up a little. Or maybe the algo
goes so far beyond saturation that not even 4 channels can relieve the bottleneck.

I think you're dreaming about a GPU miner. The algo is going switch once maybe twice again before settling on MTP. Don't
expect a GPU miner until then, at least.

 I would also be interested in 4 channel memory with a compatible cpu and its ability to help performance if any.

 CPUS that support 4 channel memory are a little out of my price range at the moment so I haven't had a chance to test

The dev team is testing a new algo and GPU miner

Here is the blog post about a stop gap until they get MTP ready http://zcoin.finance/language/en/decision-zcoin-algorithm-change/

The blog post is worth a look as it details the reasons for the change and need for a GPU miner

The reasons for the change are pretty obvious, the existing algo is a monster. Tweaking Lyra2 again
to reduce the memory requirements to make GPU mining viable may make it easy to develop a GPU miner for it, There is
already a version of Lyra2 for GPU, it should be just a matter of tweaking the parameters. But it may still not happen until
the permanent algo is chosen. Putting any effort to support a temporary algo is a waste of time/money.

I agree with you and am aware of and have used Lyra2

I am just repeating the things that official Zcoin has told the community and not my opinion about GPU mining

The reasons for the change in the official Blog and posts from them in this forum indicate its to combat abuse from cloud miners using free or stolen credits to obtain massive amounts of hash power.

You may have a deeper insight into whats going on, but I am just going by what they have told the community so far.
sr. member
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XZC is trading on btc38 now, it is a very popular coin in China, they mine and pump hard on this coin, well done the team, you are doing the best on XZC
legendary
Activity: 1470
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P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner

Pretty crazy that a Pentium can compete with an i7. Anyone testing with 4 channel memory should try my optimized miner.
It's no faster with 2 channel memory but with 4 channels the AVX2 code might speed things up a little. Or maybe the algo
goes so far beyond saturation that not even 4 channels can relieve the bottleneck.

I think you're dreaming about a GPU miner. The algo is going switch once maybe twice again before settling on MTP. Don't
expect a GPU miner until then, at least.

 I would also be interested in 4 channel memory with a compatible cpu and its ability to help performance if any.

 CPUS that support 4 channel memory are a little out of my price range at the moment so I haven't had a chance to test

The dev team is testing a new algo and GPU miner

Here is the blog post about a stop gap until they get MTP ready http://zcoin.finance/language/en/decision-zcoin-algorithm-change/

The blog post is worth a look as it details the reasons for the change and need for a GPU miner

The reasons for the change are pretty obvious, the existing algo is a monster. Tweaking Lyra2 again
to reduce the memory requirements to make GPU mining viable may make it easy to develop a GPU miner for it, There is
already a version of Lyra2 for GPU, it should be just a matter of tweaking the parameters. But it may still not happen until
the permanent algo is chosen. Putting any effort to support a temporary algo is a waste of time/money.
legendary
Activity: 1049
Merit: 1001

P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner

Pretty crazy that a Pentium can compete with an i7. Anyone testing with 4 channel memory should try my optimized miner.
It's no faster with 2 channel memory but with 4 channels the AVX2 code might speed things up a little. Or maybe the algo
goes so far beyond saturation that not even 4 channels can relieve the bottleneck.

I think you're dreaming about a GPU miner. The algo is going switch once maybe twice again before settling on MTP. Don't
expect a GPU miner until then, at least.

 I would also be interested in 4 channel memory with a compatible cpu and its ability to help performance if any.

 CPUS that support 4 channel memory are a little out of my price range at the moment so I haven't had a chance to test

The dev team is testing a new algo and GPU miner

Here is the blog post about a stop gap until they get MTP ready http://zcoin.finance/language/en/decision-zcoin-algorithm-change/

The blog post is worth a look as it details the reasons for the change and need for a GPU miner
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
whats the best windows miner now?

I think the're all about the same optimized or not. The optimized versions might be able to get the
same hashrate with less CPU load. The bottleneck is memory access, no amount of CPU optimizing
will improve that.
legendary
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the grandpa of cryptos
whats the best windows miner now?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114

P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner

Pretty crazy that a Pentium can compete with an i7. Anyone testing with 4 channel memory should try my optimized miner.
It's no faster with 2 channel memory but with 4 channels the AVX2 code might speed things up a little. Or maybe the algo
goes so far beyond saturation that not even 4 channels can relieve the bottleneck.

I think you're dreaming about a GPU miner. The algo is going switch once maybe twice again before settling on MTP. Don't
expect a GPU miner until then, at least.
legendary
Activity: 1820
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~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
any GPU miner for AMD card available now? what is the I7's cpu speed?

I get about .10 kh/s on an xeon 1231 v3 with dual channel memory with 3 cores/threads anything more than 3 gives no benefit

If you have a higher end i7 that supports quad channel memory you might get significantly better results

Xeon is the closest thing I have to an i7 so I hope that gives you a general idea.

Hopefully i7 owners will give input also, so far the community has been pretty tight lipped about sharing info

i get about 0.13kh/s on 4 threads of an 6th gen i7 (6700HQ) -- not sure if it auto utilizes quad channel memory or have to OC or unlock it in some way?
its quite profitable to mine, tho the nethash has been crazy last few days (up to 1500KH/s, now 1000 as i type)
i am patiently awaiting GPU mining, kinda FEELING like its started behind closed doors, but have no evidence of it haha

Your i7 only supports dual channel memory configurations https://ark.intel.com/products/88970/Intel-Core-i7-6820HQ-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

This basically means that if you have both memory slots populated with dual channel paired memory you will get increased speeds when mining

The faster the memory and the lower the latency the better

As far as confusion for reported speeds pools will display .13kh/s and 13h/s will be displayed on local miner so I understand what you are talking about whichever way you say it.

Thanks again for sharing your info!

P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner

nice, ok cool, thx for the info man haha right on ;p  Ya im at the point now of it not being worth it soon, as ya, i PRAY for the GPU switch soon (bots=bad imo)
sure was nice for a bit tho and those who held till it hit China there few days ago rocketed XZC made off liKe bandits Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1049
Merit: 1001
any GPU miner for AMD card available now? what is the I7's cpu speed?

I get about .10 kh/s on an xeon 1231 v3 with dual channel memory with 3 cores/threads anything more than 3 gives no benefit

If you have a higher end i7 that supports quad channel memory you might get significantly better results

Xeon is the closest thing I have to an i7 so I hope that gives you a general idea.

Hopefully i7 owners will give input also, so far the community has been pretty tight lipped about sharing info

i get about 0.13kh/s on 4 threads of an 6th gen i7 (6700HQ) -- not sure if it auto utilizes quad channel memory or have to OC or unlock it in some way?
its quite profitable to mine, tho the nethash has been crazy last few days (up to 1500KH/s, now 1000 as i type)
i am patiently awaiting GPU mining, kinda FEELING like its started behind closed doors, but have no evidence of it haha

Your i7 only supports dual channel memory configurations https://ark.intel.com/products/88970/Intel-Core-i7-6820HQ-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

This basically means that if you have both memory slots populated with dual channel paired memory you will get increased speeds when mining

The faster the memory and the lower the latency the better

As far as confusion for reported speeds pools will display .13kh/s and 13h/s will be displayed on local miner so I understand what you are talking about whichever way you say it.

Thanks again for sharing your info!

P.S. A pentium G4500 gets about the same speed as your i7 for about $80 for anyone else that might have a 4500 around might be worth trying it.

At this point it wouldn't be worth buying a Cpu to mine this with GPU mining around the corner
legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1092
~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
any GPU miner for AMD card available now? what is the I7's cpu speed?

I get about .10 kh/s on an xeon 1231 v3 with dual channel memory with 3 cores/threads anything more than 3 gives no benefit

If you have a higher end i7 that supports quad channel memory you might get significantly better results

Xeon is the closest thing I have to an i7 so I hope that gives you a general idea.

Hopefully i7 owners will give input also, so far the community has been pretty tight lipped about sharing info

i get about 0.13kh/s on 4 threads of an 6th gen i7 (6700HQ) -- not sure if it auto utilizes quad channel memory or have to OC or unlock it in some way?
its quite profitable to mine, tho the nethash has been crazy last few days (up to 1500KH/s, now 1000 as i type)
i am patiently awaiting GPU mining, kinda FEELING like its started behind closed doors, but have no evidence of it haha
Client is reporting 94126h/s.
NOT 1000Kh/s.
And your 0.13kh/s should be 13h/s...

yes, 13h/s, 150000 h/s and 100000 or w.e man, im sure it was quite clear what i meant lol, i dont really follow Zcoin much till recently, i just wanted to give that guy some info as he asked about i7 owners, thx tho Smiley
Not your fault.
Pools are reporting wrong hash rates.
Atleast this miner is showing correct speed when compared to speed that client is reporting:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cpuminer-opt-v3881-open-source-optimized-multi-algo-cpu-miner-1326803

People are quite confused with these incorret hashrates everywhere.
That is why also i asked people to post these hashrates.
So your odds to get solo block in a day should be about  50:1
Daily about 0,79552939 coins, is this correct?

Dev should explain it..

ahh ,ok Smiley  ya im not sure specifically testing wise for solo as the wallet was so much trouble for me to even SYNC i never soloed much :/ , but yes i get almost EXACTLY that 0.79ish a day haha on a pool, so your calculations seem right there
legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1092
~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
any GPU miner for AMD card available now? what is the I7's cpu speed?

I get about .10 kh/s on an xeon 1231 v3 with dual channel memory with 3 cores/threads anything more than 3 gives no benefit

If you have a higher end i7 that supports quad channel memory you might get significantly better results

Xeon is the closest thing I have to an i7 so I hope that gives you a general idea.

Hopefully i7 owners will give input also, so far the community has been pretty tight lipped about sharing info

i get about 0.13kh/s on 4 threads of an 6th gen i7 (6700HQ) -- not sure if it auto utilizes quad channel memory or have to OC or unlock it in some way?
its quite profitable to mine, tho the nethash has been crazy last few days (up to 1500KH/s, now 1000 as i type)
i am patiently awaiting GPU mining, kinda FEELING like its started behind closed doors, but have no evidence of it haha
Client is reporting 94126h/s.
NOT 1000Kh/s.
And your 0.13kh/s should be 13h/s...

yes, 13h/s, 150000 h/s and 100000 or w.e man, im sure it was quite clear what i meant lol, i dont really follow Zcoin much till recently, i just wanted to give that guy some info as he asked about i7 owners, thx tho Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1092
~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
any GPU miner for AMD card available now? what is the I7's cpu speed?

I get about .10 kh/s on an xeon 1231 v3 with dual channel memory with 3 cores/threads anything more than 3 gives no benefit

If you have a higher end i7 that supports quad channel memory you might get significantly better results

Xeon is the closest thing I have to an i7 so I hope that gives you a general idea.

Hopefully i7 owners will give input also, so far the community has been pretty tight lipped about sharing info

i get about 0.13kh/s on 4 threads of an 6th gen i7 (6700HQ) -- not sure if it auto utilizes quad channel memory or have to OC or unlock it in some way?
its quite profitable to mine, tho the nethash has been crazy last few days (up to 1500KH/s, now 1000 as i type)
i am patiently awaiting GPU mining, kinda FEELING like its started behind closed doors, but have no evidence of it haha
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That was no  a rumor

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Market Cap
$1,316,889
1,463 BTC
Available Supply
898,600 XZC
sr. member
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That was no  a rumor
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That was just a rumor started by people trying to get the price higher so they could sell

This rumor started from the day when "investor" started to buy coins(all) on bittrex, from now on this plan is may become biggest dump, and there will a lot of "bag holders". If this happen, this project will be like all pnd projects in alts..
we will see, but buy from 100k already was high risk, to become... investor
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That was just a rumor started by people trying to get the price higher so they could sell
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Coin Mage
Create zcoin.conf and add there checkblocks=1
That will verify only last block to save your time.

Thanks! Smiley I'm sure that will save a lot of people some time!  Cool Sorry for suspecting you to be a troll.

Can someone else here confirm that this is a good idea?
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Coin Mage
I think poloniex is very good , but i need wallet for windows FAST , its no good , im wait hour and hour for sync and open , really spend time to fix wallet windows , please , zcoin is VERY VERY GOOD .

There is a simple trick to get wallet opened instantly..
But nothing can be done for slow chain dl.


how instantly??  Roll Eyes

In 1-3 secs.
Im not sure why dev wont tell how.

Hahaha you're a sadistic clown.  Grin @everyone there is NO way to open the wallet in 3 seconds unless the great username_007 shows us how to do it.

Want to make a bet it can be done?

How long it takes to open your wallet?

Either you know how to do it, then tell us and stop kidding around here and teasing people "I know how to do it, I know how to do it, and you don't know!!! Cheesy" That's childish and ridiculous and annoying as fuck. Nobody will give you money for that so maybe start acting like an adult.

Or you don't know how to do it, then you are a troll and will deserve to be on my ignore list.
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