[ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 274.

weilichesbin

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Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 04:14:10 AM

Quote from: zcoinofficial on January 13, 2017, 04:09:58 AM

The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.

Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in

You are the pro man... Welcome to my ignore list

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 04:12:41 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 04:05:07 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?

Yes I am part of the Team... my status is MEMBER like any other can be

So how do you know what the "team" knows?

irukandji

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Quote from: zcoinofficial on January 13, 2017, 04:09:58 AM

The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.

Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in

weilichesbin

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Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 04:05:07 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?

Yes I am part of the Team... my status is MEMBER like any other can be

irukandji

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Quote from: zcoinofficial on January 13, 2017, 04:09:58 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:58:19 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on.

Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 04:03:19 AM

If u think so its ok.

I see what i see. We will look in 6 month who was in right...

In 6 months time there will be 10 more zero knowledge protocol coins, some of them without this drama.

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Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:58:19 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. And to be honest, you would have thought it was negative news with the uncertainty of the fork and honestly, it could have gone either way. Exchanges were worried and there was the threat of delisting during the whole Gary/Poramin fiasco. The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover. Those who lost faith dumped (many did). Those who believed it was an opportunity bought (which I assume includes the whale).

We were also trying to explore options on whether we could reach a settlement with Gary to smooth the issue over but that failed too. I couldn't make any announcement here until I was sure that we were in the clear and that we had all the miners/exchanges on our side.

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?

weilichesbin

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If u think so its ok.

I see what i see. We will look in 6 month who was in right...

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 04:01:06 AM

I bought also a lot @ 50k because everythink was clear if you follow their old slack and now the new.

We know that Gary will leave. Gary tried to make his own coin with a Fork, but no Miner followed him. This was the best time to buy in.
that was no insider or anythink else. only people who now that now the price will raise because of all informations finding in the slack

The price is not rising because of slack. It is rising because one buyer is putting huge bids in

weilichesbin

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I bought also a lot @ 50k because everythink was clear if you follow their old slack and now the new.

We know that Gary will leave. Gary tried to make his own coin with a Fork, but no Miner followed him. This was the best time to buy in.
that was no insider or anythink else. only people who now that now the price will raise because of all informations finding in the slack

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:43:30 AM

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

zcoinofficial

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Firo (FIRO)

Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:33:16 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:31:10 AM

Thats no manipultion it is a new investor... we have BIG NEWS...
I hope they write a official statement here on bitcointalk.

Implementation of a decentralized Market started Cool

So it is insider trading? Great!

i'm sure all the people who sold their coins to the "investor" will be really happy that the investor knew things they did not.

Can we expect more of this? People on the inside buying everyone's coins when they know news that everyone else does not?

I'm not the one coming up with any of the rumors and seriously people are jumping to conclusions.

Just for example, the decentralized market is something we mentioned in our roadmap way back and in our Slack discussion just a few minutes ago it came up informally, there's no 'new announcement' to make or anything to get overly excited about. There's much more urgent work to be done.

As for whether the whale is an investor or not, people are free to follow in his footsteps or not. Not as if he's being subtle about it.

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Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM

Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

zcoinofficial

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Quote from: irukandji on January 13, 2017, 03:20:25 AM

Quote from: zcoinofficial on January 13, 2017, 02:13:51 AM

Now could these projects have been handled better? For sure with the benefit of hindsight and Poramin's own admission is that communication is one of his weak points which is why I'm here to assist.

Would you kindly be able to communicate whether the tech actually works?

thanks

The tech works and you can try it out. Minting and spending Zerocoin.

We're working on making it easier and later on performance improvements but yes it does work.

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:38:04 AM

Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

weilichesbin

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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...
I think BCT is the last to get now...

The one think which goes me on my nerves it that every good project is calling firtly scam.

I know the Beginning at Monero...
I invested monthly around 200 Dollars in the Coins...

Everyone write it is scam... but i buy and buy month for month.... and now

Was it scam Huh

irukandji

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Quote from: weilichesbin on January 13, 2017, 03:31:10 AM

Thats no manipultion it is a new investor... we have BIG NEWS...
I hope they write a official statement here on bitcointalk.

Implementation of a decentralized Market started Cool

So it is insider trading? Great!

i'm sure all the people who sold their coins to the "investor" will be really happy that the investor knew things they did not.

Can we expect more of this? People on the inside buying everyone's coins when they know news that everyone else does not?

irukandji

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Unfortunately this whole saga is on record now, and in the long run people will eschew this sort of behaviour.

Before long someone will use the zerocoin paper to do something more community minded

weilichesbin

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Thats no manipultion it is a new investor... we have BIG NEWS...
I hope they write a official statement here on bitcointalk.

Implementation of a decentralized Market started Cool

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