that happen when people use horrible libraries as boost... that it is making so hard to compile for other platforms...
boost, the stack of shit where everybody can go to make shit...
Topic: [ANN] ZenithCoin (ZTC) Market Making Sustainable Crypto Currency - page 14. (Read 35767 times)
June 02, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
June 02, 2013, 03:44:21 PM
I see 2 fatal flaws without even looking into it in more detail:
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
Yes, this will appeal to miners who understand the value proposition.
You don't need windows-qt to mine the coin.
June 02, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
I see 2 fatal flaws without even looking into it in more detail:
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
Yes, this will appeal to miners who understand the value proposition.
You don't need windows-qt to mine the coin.
June 02, 2013, 03:28:50 PM
I see 2 fatal flaws without even looking into it in more detail:
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
1. 50% of all coins go to the developers. For this alone I will never mine this coin. The concept isn't actually a bad one but instead of keeping 50%, maybe 0.5% would be "reasonable".
2. No Windows-qt. This gives everyone that is not using Windows a huge head start. Someone will make the Windows client but by then everyone else will have raped the coin.
So for me for the first reason alone, I will never support this coin. And that is saying something because I have almost every wallet in existence.
June 02, 2013, 01:48:28 PM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. So, yes, it is like not going to be part of the ZenithCoin distribution.
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
But rest assured, we do have plans for a GUI wallet. It is just not going to be QT.
Man, there is tutorials for dummis for building client for windows out there ....
Worst dev ever , hahahaa
Agree, one of our weaknesses, we only know Unix (MacOS and Linux). We will probably give out bounties for Windows work.
That would be wise. There has been a few that are in the same boat without the knowledge on building stuff for windows that have done bounties for them.
June 02, 2013, 01:47:16 PM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. So, yes, it is like not going to be part of the ZenithCoin distribution.
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
But rest assured, we do have plans for a GUI wallet. It is just not going to be QT.
Most people can not use command line lets alone even know what it is. Hell compiling on windows is a pain in the ass unless you know what your doing even then it can be a major pain.
Take my word on this, if there is anything you would listen to me on anything... you need a windows-qt or something along those lines. Without it, you will really limit who does your thing here... and really closing the door to the bigger market ( if no "wallet" whos gonna buy it? )
June 02, 2013, 01:41:46 PM
Agree, one of our weaknesses, we only know Unix (MacOS and Linux). We will probably give out bounties for Windows work.
The real weakness is calling Linux as UNIX
June 02, 2013, 01:05:08 PM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. So, yes, it is like not going to be part of the ZenithCoin distribution.
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
But rest assured, we do have plans for a GUI wallet. It is just not going to be QT.
Man, there is tutorials for dummis for building client for windows out there ....
Worst dev ever , hahahaa
Agree, one of our weaknesses, we only know Unix (MacOS and Linux). We will probably give out bounties for Windows work.
June 02, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. (...)
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
how does your foot feel now? I bet it doesn't like being shot..
June 02, 2013, 12:45:05 PM
June 02, 2013, 12:44:15 PM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. So, yes, it is like not going to be part of the ZenithCoin distribution.
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
But rest assured, we do have plans for a GUI wallet. It is just not going to be QT.
Man, there is tutorials for dummis for building client for windows out there ....
Worst dev ever , hahahaa
June 02, 2013, 12:36:10 PM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
I am not too thrilled with the QT code base and have no aspirations on maintaining it. So, yes, it is like not going to be part of the ZenithCoin distribution.
For now, users will have to settle with command line. ;-)
But rest assured, we do have plans for a GUI wallet. It is just not going to be QT.
June 02, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
A Freicoin clone?? Ouch, DOA despite the "fist commit."
June 02, 2013, 12:01:35 PM
Launch Date June 1, 2013
http://www.zenithcoin.com
Like it on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Zenithcoin
STATUS
7:57 AM EST - Currently generating genesis block for June 1st, 2013. Proof of work will be Litecoin compatible. Difficulty will start at 0.00024414.
2:30 PM EST - Genesis block created. Currently performing final checks prior to source code check-in.
4:30 PM EST - Source code checked in. Daemon tested on MacOS X. Currently testing build for Ubuntu.
6/2/2013 11:56 AM - Block Explorer ready and tested. We will be making some network changes, to add some permanent nodes on the network. Please do not mine yet until we have this setup.
MINING
We will announce a coordinated mining launch in the future. At this time, the code is in alpha and we are in the process of resolving issues.
every edit is done under the original one with a date and time, no corrections and lies. I like that [for now, only that
]lets quote it to keep the original form stored.
June 02, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
solracx
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
Remember that we are just criticizing it now... much better to work out the bugs now than have it fucked up from the start.
I have to say though if there is no -qt, you need some sort of 'wallet" program that windows users can use very easily. Not having this will cut out a good majority of people using your idea
June 02, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
any special about this coin ?
yes, it's probably the worst launch in the last week
More like the slowest launch ever.
June 02, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
solracx, your "team dev" has incluided scrypt-jane source in project, but it is not referenced in any makefile so it is not built at all ... are your "team dev" conscius of this situation? Please, give us an answer.
Yes, the scrypt jane is there for future integration into the PoW.
Do you plan to change the scrypt algo and change diff next to launch? You will fork your coin, stupid.
June 02, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
solracx, your "team dev" has incluided scrypt-jane source in project, but it is not referenced in any makefile so it is not built at all ... are your "team dev" conscius of this situation? Please, give us an answer.
Yes, the scrypt jane is there for future integration into the PoW.
June 02, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
ETA ?
June 02, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Anyone could on theory start mining if they compile the code themselves. At this time, any changes will involve just network parameters.
and that means? ...
This means you can do some pre-integration work with client.
Any coins that you mine until the mining launch could go poof!
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