I see many peopel try hack although they didn't receive any coin by anti cheat system
Dev is right, 10k Placoin every day can't destroy the game but investor can do it
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September 14, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
September 13, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
First and foremost...
DEV's.... THANK YOU for hitting these nasty messages head on and not running to hide. That says a lot about you as people... Admitting you're not professional game developers says even more. VERY COOL. We respect honesty...
Here's an Idea....
How about releasing a Bounty to draw attention from big time developers.
5 BTC for the game with the most downloads by January 1 2018 that integrates your platform and signs a contract that they will do so for at least 2 years.
5 BTC for "Most Addictive" - the game that generates the most game "time" by January 1.... this means more transactions, more spending, and higher prices for your coin.
These don't have to be the competitions you run, but anything like this would change your world and solve your development issue for only 20% of the ICO money raised.
Like Arkan said... Game development is 70% of this project, if you can get away with only spending 20% to solve that problem, you're in a huge win situation.
Big rewards like this would bring you 100's of games that are already developed and can implement your coin easily... Then, they do all the marketing for you, grow your brand and name, and it costs you $40,000 total while the 10-20% of Coins you have in your possession grow 10-20x making you $400,000 in the process.
Big rewards will bring big talent, and that's what you need. This will also bring HUGE numbers of people wanting to implement your coin in hopes to win the 20,000 reward. You would get 100x the response and games developed with a competition based bounty rather than attempting to pay a developer to create a game from scratch for you.
My degree is in Business & Marketing, so this is the way my mind works, you'll get a lot better response if you dangle the carrot than if you try to hire someone directly.
Is this something possible for your team to implement?
DEV's.... THANK YOU for hitting these nasty messages head on and not running to hide. That says a lot about you as people... Admitting you're not professional game developers says even more. VERY COOL. We respect honesty...
Here's an Idea....
How about releasing a Bounty to draw attention from big time developers.
5 BTC for the game with the most downloads by January 1 2018 that integrates your platform and signs a contract that they will do so for at least 2 years.
5 BTC for "Most Addictive" - the game that generates the most game "time" by January 1.... this means more transactions, more spending, and higher prices for your coin.
These don't have to be the competitions you run, but anything like this would change your world and solve your development issue for only 20% of the ICO money raised.
Like Arkan said... Game development is 70% of this project, if you can get away with only spending 20% to solve that problem, you're in a huge win situation.
Big rewards like this would bring you 100's of games that are already developed and can implement your coin easily... Then, they do all the marketing for you, grow your brand and name, and it costs you $40,000 total while the 10-20% of Coins you have in your possession grow 10-20x making you $400,000 in the process.
Big rewards will bring big talent, and that's what you need. This will also bring HUGE numbers of people wanting to implement your coin in hopes to win the 20,000 reward. You would get 100x the response and games developed with a competition based bounty rather than attempting to pay a developer to create a game from scratch for you.
My degree is in Business & Marketing, so this is the way my mind works, you'll get a lot better response if you dangle the carrot than if you try to hire someone directly.
Is this something possible for your team to implement?
Or.... You could even do, first developer to reach 1 to 5 Million Coins circulated through their game gets 5BTC. Or even 5BTC worth of Placo Circulated to insure there is major traction before the reward is given out.
This would delay the payout until someone truly made your coin worth more money than you were paying them in BTC as a reward... Not to mention the other games that reach 100-900k coins circulated through the losing developers platforms. All leading to win/win situations. You make money, the developers implement real money into their games, and the winning developer goes home with a nice chunk of Coin.
September 13, 2017, 08:07:27 PM
ANDDDDD this is the reason why the price is dropping like a cheap hooker... no one is as interested as they were when this was first announced.. you guys kept changing the rules for payouts, screwing the system up, making it difficult, things that should have been worked out prior to kick off. There are still stupid glitches in the games that give out invalid codes (ive gotten lots) which wastes my time and gets me nothing for playing, people are still cheating and last but not least.. and the BIGGEST issue is the DEVS still havent posted the proof they burned all those millions of coins. Ive been asking since the ICO has completed for them to show us and there has been no answer from them, just dead air. I think everyone is slowly starting to figure out what a scam this is.. if its not, then DEVS prove me wrong.. post the proof showing all those coins destroyed...also, you all owe me about 17,000 placos. Whenever I get the max score it says congrats you get 1,000 placos.. complained about this before and never got a response. This was also prior to the scoring change.. you know what keep the coins, they are getting more worthless by the day.
About the burned coins, asked Coinexchange to give us the burn Address. Will post here as soon as they give us the address and everyone can check it trough the Block Explorer.
This is a BLOCKCHAIN coin.. EVERYTHING is transparent to EVERYONE. You should know that.
About all your other fud, just read 2 posts before yours. I just explained the actual situation. And about that 17.000 coins you claim we 'owe' you, if you didn't get them is because you are using glitches and hacks, so the system has banned you probably.
If not, post here your address and we can trace your IP and your playing history and see if you used hacks. Anyway, 17.000 coins will mean you have more than 10% of ALL mined coins, so never mind... I can confirm you are using hacks or you are just lying or you don't know maths.
Regards,
DEV
heres first two sets from IP 01000111 10101011 not posting my IP for everyone to see, in case someone gets a bright idea about trying to spoof or DOS..
you should be able to look in your system and find it with the first two sets because I doubt anyone else's is close.
I hate to tell you but I dont have to cheat, havent been "banned" or hacked your system. I still get codes when I do play, sometimes your system gives out invalid codes. I was PM'd by CODO0012 and he can confirm that I had an issue with this. (still have the messages in my inbox) That sometimes when I play silverstar I would get a code with an "l" in it, it would say invalid. We went over the character sets and said some where removed because of confusion. Well, still get invalid once in a while so its still generating bad codes.
and FUD? really, Ive tried to help you guys by posting glitches and problems with the games, yeah go back pages and see my posts with screen shots regarding all the issues.
and let me guess, youll say these images are photoshoped right?
the 1,000 placos guaranteed one is 1 of 17 photos FYI. and as you can see it was when you gave out 4 character codes, before the change in the how points are calculated. Also, I think there was another post from another who complained about the same thing, except I think theres was 2500 PLACOS.
It's $100... Relax. Move on. If you're worried about $100 at this stage you were never an investor to begin with. They are cheap, buy them while you can before this thing really takes off.
If you have something to contribute, please do.. But if you're going to whine over your Placo pay out when you know there are issues with the system during these early stages, you're not doing anyone any good, just wasting space.
September 13, 2017, 08:00:27 PM
First and foremost...
DEV's.... THANK YOU for hitting these nasty messages head on and not running to hide. That says a lot about you as people... Admitting you're not professional game developers says even more. VERY COOL. We respect honesty...
Here's an Idea....
How about releasing a Bounty to draw attention from big time developers.
5 BTC for the game with the most downloads by January 1 2018 that integrates your platform and signs a contract that they will do so for at least 2 years.
5 BTC for "Most Addictive" - the game that generates the most game "time" by January 1.... this means more transactions, more spending, and higher prices for your coin.
These don't have to be the competitions you run, but anything like this would change your world and solve your development issue for only 20% of the ICO money raised.
Like Arkan said... Game development is 70% of this project, if you can get away with only spending 20% to solve that problem, you're in a huge win situation.
Big rewards like this would bring you 100's of games that are already developed and can implement your coin easily... Then, they do all the marketing for you, grow your brand and name, and it costs you $40,000 total while the 10-20% of Coins you have in your possession grow 10-20x making you $400,000 in the process.
Big rewards will bring big talent, and that's what you need. This will also bring HUGE numbers of people wanting to implement your coin in hopes to win the 20,000 reward. You would get 100x the response and games developed with a competition based bounty rather than attempting to pay a developer to create a game from scratch for you.
My degree is in Business & Marketing, so this is the way my mind works, you'll get a lot better response if you dangle the carrot than if you try to hire someone directly.
Is this something possible for your team to implement?
DEV's.... THANK YOU for hitting these nasty messages head on and not running to hide. That says a lot about you as people... Admitting you're not professional game developers says even more. VERY COOL. We respect honesty...
Here's an Idea....
How about releasing a Bounty to draw attention from big time developers.
5 BTC for the game with the most downloads by January 1 2018 that integrates your platform and signs a contract that they will do so for at least 2 years.
5 BTC for "Most Addictive" - the game that generates the most game "time" by January 1.... this means more transactions, more spending, and higher prices for your coin.
These don't have to be the competitions you run, but anything like this would change your world and solve your development issue for only 20% of the ICO money raised.
Like Arkan said... Game development is 70% of this project, if you can get away with only spending 20% to solve that problem, you're in a huge win situation.
Big rewards like this would bring you 100's of games that are already developed and can implement your coin easily... Then, they do all the marketing for you, grow your brand and name, and it costs you $40,000 total while the 10-20% of Coins you have in your possession grow 10-20x making you $400,000 in the process.
Big rewards will bring big talent, and that's what you need. This will also bring HUGE numbers of people wanting to implement your coin in hopes to win the 20,000 reward. You would get 100x the response and games developed with a competition based bounty rather than attempting to pay a developer to create a game from scratch for you.
My degree is in Business & Marketing, so this is the way my mind works, you'll get a lot better response if you dangle the carrot than if you try to hire someone directly.
Is this something possible for your team to implement?
September 13, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
ANDDDDD this is the reason why the price is dropping like a cheap hooker... no one is as interested as they were when this was first announced.. you guys kept changing the rules for payouts, screwing the system up, making it difficult, things that should have been worked out prior to kick off. There are still stupid glitches in the games that give out invalid codes (ive gotten lots) which wastes my time and gets me nothing for playing, people are still cheating and last but not least.. and the BIGGEST issue is the DEVS still havent posted the proof they burned all those millions of coins. Ive been asking since the ICO has completed for them to show us and there has been no answer from them, just dead air. I think everyone is slowly starting to figure out what a scam this is.. if its not, then DEVS prove me wrong.. post the proof showing all those coins destroyed...also, you all owe me about 17,000 placos. Whenever I get the max score it says congrats you get 1,000 placos.. complained about this before and never got a response. This was also prior to the scoring change.. you know what keep the coins, they are getting more worthless by the day.
About the burned coins, asked Coinexchange to give us the burn Address. Will post here as soon as they give us the address and everyone can check it trough the Block Explorer.
This is a BLOCKCHAIN coin.. EVERYTHING is transparent to EVERYONE. You should know that.
About all your other fud, just read 2 posts before yours. I just explained the actual situation. And about that 17.000 coins you claim we 'owe' you, if you didn't get them is because you are using glitches and hacks, so the system has banned you probably.
If not, post here your address and we can trace your IP and your playing history and see if you used hacks. Anyway, 17.000 coins will mean you have more than 10% of ALL mined coins, so never mind... I can confirm you are using hacks or you are just lying or you don't know maths.
Regards,
DEV
heres first two sets from IP 01000111 10101011 not posting my IP for everyone to see, in case someone gets a bright idea about trying to spoof or DOS..
you should be able to look in your system and find it with the first two sets because I doubt anyone else's is close.
I hate to tell you but I dont have to cheat, havent been "banned" or hacked your system. I still get codes when I do play, sometimes your system gives out invalid codes. I was PM'd by CODO0012 and he can confirm that I had an issue with this. (still have the messages in my inbox) That sometimes when I play silverstar I would get a code with an "l" in it, it would say invalid. We went over the character sets and said some where removed because of confusion. Well, still get invalid once in a while so its still generating bad codes.
and FUD? really, Ive tried to help you guys by posting glitches and problems with the games, yeah go back pages and see my posts with screen shots regarding all the issues.
and let me guess, youll say these images are photoshoped right?
the 1,000 placos guaranteed one is 1 of 17 photos FYI. and as you can see it was when you gave out 4 character codes, before the change in the how points are calculated. Also, I think there was another post from another who complained about the same thing, except I think theres was 2500 PLACOS.
September 13, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
ANDDDDD this is the reason why the price is dropping like a cheap hooker... no one is as interested as they were when this was first announced.. you guys kept changing the rules for payouts, screwing the system up, making it difficult, things that should have been worked out prior to kick off. There are still stupid glitches in the games that give out invalid codes (ive gotten lots) which wastes my time and gets me nothing for playing, people are still cheating and last but not least.. and the BIGGEST issue is the DEVS still havent posted the proof they burned all those millions of coins. Ive been asking since the ICO has completed for them to show us and there has been no answer from them, just dead air. I think everyone is slowly starting to figure out what a scam this is.. if its not, then DEVS prove me wrong.. post the proof showing all those coins destroyed...also, you all owe me about 17,000 placos. Whenever I get the max score it says congrats you get 1,000 placos.. complained about this before and never got a response. This was also prior to the scoring change.. you know what keep the coins, they are getting more worthless by the day.
About the burned coins, asked Coinexchange to give us the burn Address. Will post here as soon as they give us the address and everyone can check it trough the Block Explorer.
This is a BLOCKCHAIN coin.. EVERYTHING is transparent to EVERYONE. You should know that.
About all your other fud, just read 2 posts before yours. I just explained the actual situation. And about that 17.000 coins you claim we 'owe' you, if you didn't get them is because you are using glitches and hacks, so the system has banned you probably.
If not, post here your address and we can trace your IP and your playing history and see if you used hacks. Anyway, 17.000 coins will mean you have more than 10% of ALL mined coins, so never mind... I can confirm you are using hacks or you are just lying or you don't know maths.
Regards,
DEV
September 13, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
***** INOFFICIAL information! ******
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
ANDDDDD this is the reason why the price is dropping like a cheap hooker... no one is as interested as they were when this was first announced.. you guys kept changing the rules for payouts, screwing the system up, making it difficult, things that should have been worked out prior to kick off. There are still stupid glitches in the games that give out invalid codes (ive gotten lots) which wastes my time and gets me nothing for playing, people are still cheating and last but not least.. and the BIGGEST issue is the DEVS still havent posted the proof they burned all those millions of coins. Ive been asking since the ICO has completed for them to show us and there has been no answer from them, just dead air. I think everyone is slowly starting to figure out what a scam this is.. if its not, then DEVS prove me wrong.. post the proof showing all those coins destroyed...also, you all owe me about 17,000 placos. Whenever I get the max score it says congrats you get 1,000 placos.. complained about this before and never got a response. This was also prior to the scoring change.. you know what keep the coins, they are getting more worthless by the day.
September 13, 2017, 03:48:44 PM
Hey
Sweet!
Thats exactly what we need!
Take a look at the API doc and let us know what you think and what kind of game can you create
https://playercoin.world/apidraft.pdf
Feel free to enter our slack channel to talk to our coder if you have any doubt or suggestion with the API doc.
Hey where is the slack url exactly ? Couldn't seem to find it?
Sweet!
Thats exactly what we need!
Take a look at the API doc and let us know what you think and what kind of game can you create
https://playercoin.world/apidraft.pdf
Feel free to enter our slack channel to talk to our coder if you have any doubt or suggestion with the API doc.
Hello!!
https://join.slack.com/t/playercoinworld/shared_invite/MjM0MzUxOTkxMTU0LTE1MDQxNzE5NDQtMDAwOGE3ODJhOA
Our slack, I you have problem to enter send me a PM and invite by email
Regards!! And welcome
Regards
September 13, 2017, 03:37:07 PM
Hey
Sweet!
Thats exactly what we need!
Take a look at the API doc and let us know what you think and what kind of game can you create
https://playercoin.world/apidraft.pdf
Feel free to enter our slack channel to talk to our coder if you have any doubt or suggestion with the API doc.
Hey where is the slack url exactly ? Couldn't seem to find it?
Sweet!
Thats exactly what we need!
Take a look at the API doc and let us know what you think and what kind of game can you create
https://playercoin.world/apidraft.pdf
Feel free to enter our slack channel to talk to our coder if you have any doubt or suggestion with the API doc.
September 13, 2017, 03:14:12 PM
Hi all!
Ok.. lets analyse the situation:
You are right that people is playing games and (probably) dumping some coins, but 10.000 Placos per day is not enough to destroy the coin itself.
It was obviously some ICO investor dumping coins.
People have "mined" about 150k Placo with Proof of Play. Suposing they where dumping all the 100% of coins at 150Sats that will be 0.25-030 BTC at all? so PoP is NOT hurting the coin.
Remember PoP is the basis of PlayerCoin.
Every coin has his miners, Sha, Scrypt, or any other algo, and all the miners dump the coins also, and that doesn't mean mining is bad for the coin.
We are improving PoP system to avoid abuses and hacks, and that took us a lot of work and time.
We are working on improved API to allow any game developer to use PlayerCoin in his own games, such a roulette game or any casino related game to allow people to "Pay" with Placos and Win Placos.
That kind of games requires a lot of work and skills to assure security.
Imagine that we create a roulette game with real PLACO and some 'hacker' does the same as flying tap. Modify score "on the fly" to get more coins. We already solved that now, but any APK game is SO easy to hack.
As we said from the beginning, we are NOT PROFESSIONAL game developers.
We have provided the tools. We have created to Coin and show how it works.
We have improved the PoP system, and created the API as promised.
Now we need REAL game devs to create demand of PLACO's with not only mining games.
We are doing our best. Getting in touch with some game devs atm, but it takes time to develop the games and integrate the API.
We really hope to get more game devs involved and have better and more secure games soon.
Once we have API completly finished and operative, we will open a GAME CONTEST with 0.2 BTC reward to the first 5 games created using PLACO (total 1 BTC reward)
We are still here, and working to make PLACO better everyday.
Regards
DEV
You people definitely need some good games. I see that you people are not professional game devs.
I would like to participate in the game contest. What sort of API are you people developing?
Would it be supporting Unity? C#? Javascript?
Also if there is any space in the team for a game developer. Do inform me.
I really like this project idea. But Game Development is at least 70% of this project.
Sweet!
Thats exactly what we need!
Take a look at the API doc and let us know what you think and what kind of game can you create
https://playercoin.world/apidraft.pdf
Feel free to enter our slack channel to talk to our coder if you have any doubt or suggestion with the API doc.
September 13, 2017, 02:53:46 PM
Hi all!
Ok.. lets analyse the situation:
You are right that people is playing games and (probably) dumping some coins, but 10.000 Placos per day is not enough to destroy the coin itself.
It was obviously some ICO investor dumping coins.
People have "mined" about 150k Placo with Proof of Play. Suposing they where dumping all the 100% of coins at 150Sats that will be 0.25-030 BTC at all? so PoP is NOT hurting the coin.
Remember PoP is the basis of PlayerCoin.
Every coin has his miners, Sha, Scrypt, or any other algo, and all the miners dump the coins also, and that doesn't mean mining is bad for the coin.
We are improving PoP system to avoid abuses and hacks, and that took us a lot of work and time.
We are working on improved API to allow any game developer to use PlayerCoin in his own games, such a roulette game or any casino related game to allow people to "Pay" with Placos and Win Placos.
That kind of games requires a lot of work and skills to assure security.
Imagine that we create a roulette game with real PLACO and some 'hacker' does the same as flying tap. Modify score "on the fly" to get more coins. We already solved that now, but any APK game is SO easy to hack.
As we said from the beginning, we are NOT PROFESSIONAL game developers.
We have provided the tools. We have created to Coin and show how it works.
We have improved the PoP system, and created the API as promised.
Now we need REAL game devs to create demand of PLACO's with not only mining games.
We are doing our best. Getting in touch with some game devs atm, but it takes time to develop the games and integrate the API.
We really hope to get more game devs involved and have better and more secure games soon.
Once we have API completly finished and operative, we will open a GAME CONTEST with 0.2 BTC reward to the first 5 games created using PLACO (total 1 BTC reward)
We are still here, and working to make PLACO better everyday.
Regards
DEV
You people definitely need some good games. I see that you people are not professional game devs.
I would like to participate in the game contest. What sort of API are you people developing?
Would it be supporting Unity? C#? Javascript?
Also if there is any space in the team for a game developer. Do inform me.
I really like this project idea. But Game Development is at least 70% of this project.
September 13, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
I play games a lot since I sold most coins. Maybe I can get some back now. 
This is exactly why the coin is plummeting, I've said so from the beginning but have gotten no response from Devs.. People are playing, getting coins, and dumping them on the market because they don't care what the value is, just that they are getting something for nothing.
This is because they have no where else to spend them or nothing that requires coins to play. So what should we do with them? Dump them on the investors that actually supported the project from the beginning while we watch out investment plummet scaring more investors away from the project, killing everyone involved including the PlayerCoin Development team.
Gotta start playing politics boys and start protecting your idea. This is falling because you're allowing it to fall. Just because you're not dumping coins, doesn't mean your gamers aren't dumping the 10k you give out each day which still makes you liable for the fall.
I alone could crash this to 1sat with a total bid of only .5BTC against my 450k coins. I'm trying to support you, but getting very tired of the well we tried again, but it didn't work. Investors can only hear this stuff so many times before they bail on you, and that's exactly what you're seeing happen.
If necessary, pull all games, get things right, then republish. But right now, this thing is going to 50sats or less unless there is a major change in direction to protect your current coin holders.
Hoping for an insightful response from Dev's VERY Soon.
Worried Investor, but a big fan of your idea.
Dustin
Hi all!
Ok.. lets analyse the situation:
You are right that people is playing games and (probably) dumping some coins, but 10.000 Placos per day is not enough to destroy the coin itself.
It was obviously some ICO investor dumping coins.
People have "mined" about 150k Placo with Proof of Play. Suposing they where dumping all the 100% of coins at 150Sats that will be 0.25-030 BTC at all? so PoP is NOT hurting the coin.
Remember PoP is the basis of PlayerCoin.
Every coin has his miners, Sha, Scrypt, or any other algo, and all the miners dump the coins also, and that doesn't mean mining is bad for the coin.
We are improving PoP system to avoid abuses and hacks, and that took us a lot of work and time.
We are working on improved API to allow any game developer to use PlayerCoin in his own games, such a roulette game or any casino related game to allow people to "Pay" with Placos and Win Placos.
That kind of games requires a lot of work and skills to assure security.
Imagine that we create a roulette game with real PLACO and some 'hacker' does the same as flying tap. Modify score "on the fly" to get more coins. We already solved that now, but any APK game is SO easy to hack.
As we said from the beginning, we are NOT PROFESSIONAL game developers.
We have provided the tools. We have created to Coin and show how it works.
We have improved the PoP system, and created the API as promised.
Now we need REAL game devs to create demand of PLACO's with not only mining games.
We are doing our best. Getting in touch with some game devs atm, but it takes time to develop the games and integrate the API.
We really hope to get more game devs involved and have better and more secure games soon.
Once we have API completly finished and operative, we will open a GAME CONTEST with 0.2 BTC reward to the first 5 games created using PLACO (total 1 BTC reward)
We are still here, and working to make PLACO better everyday.
Regards
DEV
September 13, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
U werent purchasing anything, capitals outflows from israel where u are located triggered a gov ban affecting all trading activities within israeli borders making it impossible for there citizens to participate in any sales. What u were promised and told by that zaldano teenager will never happen because hes muslim and muslims dont deal with foreign money directly.
What the f*ck are you talking about? September 13, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
U werent purchasing anything, capitals outflows from israel where u are located triggered a gov ban affecting all trading activities within israeli borders making it impossible for there citizens to participate in any sales. What u were promised and told by that zaldano teenager will never happen because hes muslim and muslims dont deal with foreign money directly.
September 13, 2017, 01:18:05 PM
I play games a lot since I sold most coins. Maybe I can get some back now.
This is exactly why the coin is plummeting, I've said so from the beginning but have gotten no response from Devs.. People are playing, getting coins, and dumping them on the market because they don't care what the value is, just that they are getting something for nothing.
This is because they have no where else to spend them or nothing that requires coins to play. So what should we do with them? Dump them on the investors that actually supported the project from the beginning while we watch out investment plummet scaring more investors away from the project, killing everyone involved including the PlayerCoin Development team.
Gotta start playing politics boys and start protecting your idea. This is falling because you're allowing it to fall. Just because you're not dumping coins, doesn't mean your gamers aren't dumping the 10k you give out each day which still makes you liable for the fall.
I alone could crash this to 1sat with a total bid of only .5BTC against my 450k coins. I'm trying to support you, but getting very tired of the well we tried again, but it didn't work. Investors can only hear this stuff so many times before they bail on you, and that's exactly what you're seeing happen.
If necessary, pull all games, get things right, then republish. But right now, this thing is going to 50sats or less unless there is a major change in direction to protect your current coin holders.
Hoping for an insightful response from Dev's VERY Soon.
Worried Investor, but a big fan of your idea.
Dustin
September 13, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
***** INOFFICIAL information! ******
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
Hi Zalando and everyone.
Thanks for the explanation. You are right about the time , we have our own jobs and families, not exclusive dedication ti this of course, but we are doing our best to improve the system.
I must say the redeem system is causing more troubles than we expected, because of the "easy" way ANY apk for Android can be hacked.
The new Shares system is working great, but still a lot of people trying to "hack" scores to get more coins.
We had lost a lot of time trying to improve the redeem system. In fact, our programmer, had to "re-do" from scratch a couple of times, and now he is working hand by hand with our Game Dev to a new improvement to erradícate all the hacking attempts.
Will let you know when the new system is ready.
That means you will all have to update games again (sry about that) .
About the price of the coin, what can I say? People is selling the cheap coins, not us. So if price goes down is basically because some of you are selling cheap.
Anyway, I'm confident about this is temporary and a good moment to buy and stack Placos.
We have still a LOT to do and a LOT of good ideas to make this grow.
I must say we wanted to enter Cryptopia a few days ago. Bought the 2BTC of Dots needed to pay the listing fee (1M dots), BUT yesterday when I was about to pay the listing, they simple multiplied price x5 (5 M dots now for listing a new coin). Thats about 40.000$, and we simply cannot pay that right now.
Still waiting to be listed at yobit too. Hope they will add us this week.
We need more volume in exchanges to make the price rise. Thats all!
Btw we are all here and working to improve everything .
Thanks all for your support!
Regards
-DEV-
Wow, that is quite a number. I mean you guys didn't collect any serious money upfront development, did you? And btw, can't you try to negotiate with them? I mean, that's really bad to hear with your timing.
I hope your team will be recovering investor money with 2dot that you paid for listing.
Also...
If android is so easy to hack... Why not switch your platform over to IOS first... Avoid any hacker problems, build the token's reputation while you correct the android functionality in the background..
Each time the Android game is updated and fails, we lose Investor support... But if you were to put out a fully functional program on IOS and avoid those APK hacks, this would allow you to get additional support which in turn becomes votes on Nova which brings extra support as well.
Or.... Pull the game down all together until you are able to correct those issues... The community is better off without anything than to continue to download errored programming that makes your team look like they keep missing the ball.... We believe in you... We just think it needs to be done a little differently because it's not just you you're working for now... You have to play politics as well or the coin will go to 0 and you won't have money to continue development, and we'll have to take the loss.
Thank you for your time.
Big Supporter here.
Ok so there was investor money involved? How much money did they collect then in total?
There was 25 BTC Collected during the ICO. If they gave money to any exchange to get published, it would have been investor money... Hoping this was just a set back and they are being refunded the money if they decide not to proceed with the listing.
I haven't heard any response from DEVs yet so we will see what they say when they come back.
Still waiting for link to burn address as well. They promised us that after the ICO. They also told me that they would be on Nova and Yobit when I was purchasing coins during ICO... I'm not against them waiting on these, but want to see that it's still in the works...
September 13, 2017, 12:21:12 PM
***** INOFFICIAL information! ******
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
As the critics are growing due to the no longer instant payments, I have decided to explain you the system and how it works from now.
Besides I want to clarify that I am no official team or staff member and do not get paid for this.
All information are based on my personal knowledge and can contain mistakes.
New vs. old - why it's better
The old system was simple: Play and get paid. But also there was a big number one rule: Play fast, make much points and be early to get paid.
If you were too late - sorry, no more coins. The new system is completely different. But also as you see not that easy.
One more great feature: Hackers now no longer have a chance. Instead of also paying out hackers, hack attacks from hackers will now not be paid.
The idea
My idea was, to pay the people after how much they played and give everyone a fair chance - not the first ones, really everyone.
With this idea I wanted to archive, that even if you play at the end of the day, you would get paid - and the new system definitely does.
The concept behind it were shares and final payments instead of instantly paying out.
Thankfully the team and main dev accepted and already implemented my idea and changed the system.
Exact example:
Imagine: There were 200 users playing during a 24 hour period.
100 players have each 1000 points, 50 have each 5000, 25 have 10000 and 25 players have each 50000 points played in the period.
Due to the new system, it's possible that even if thousands of players would have played during the day, each person gets a piece of the cake.
So all players have together played 1.850.000 points in the day.
Now the system at the end of a day divides the amount that gets paid out (10.000) with the amount of points/shares (1.850.000)
Result = 0.0054054054. That means, that each share equals 0,0054054054 PlayerCoins.
1 point played in a game means one share. So there are 1.850.000 total shares.
The 100 players with each 1000 points get 5,4 PlayerCoins,
the 50 with 5000 get 27 Playercoins,
the 25 with 10000 get 54 Playercoins
and the 25 players with 50000 get 270 Playercoins.
That means, that every player of the 200 players who played in the day gets something but still the better they played, the more they get.
Payments will from now be paid every 24 hours, not instantly. Please note that you maybe have to wait up to 24 hours till your payment will be sent.
You can see the countdown for the next payment on the redeem page.
I am honest: I also had critics against the team and the project. But I try to improve it with own ideas. So instead of just shouting that they scam,
I try to help them and build trust to them. I am sure they don't scam, they just simply have not unlimited time and other things to do.
I hope you understand now how the system works.
Hi Zalando and everyone.
Thanks for the explanation. You are right about the time , we have our own jobs and families, not exclusive dedication ti this of course, but we are doing our best to improve the system.
I must say the redeem system is causing more troubles than we expected, because of the "easy" way ANY apk for Android can be hacked.
The new Shares system is working great, but still a lot of people trying to "hack" scores to get more coins.
We had lost a lot of time trying to improve the redeem system. In fact, our programmer, had to "re-do" from scratch a couple of times, and now he is working hand by hand with our Game Dev to a new improvement to erradícate all the hacking attempts.
Will let you know when the new system is ready.
That means you will all have to update games again (sry about that) .
About the price of the coin, what can I say? People is selling the cheap coins, not us. So if price goes down is basically because some of you are selling cheap.
Anyway, I'm confident about this is temporary and a good moment to buy and stack Placos.
We have still a LOT to do and a LOT of good ideas to make this grow.
I must say we wanted to enter Cryptopia a few days ago. Bought the 2BTC of Dots needed to pay the listing fee (1M dots), BUT yesterday when I was about to pay the listing, they simple multiplied price x5 (5 M dots now for listing a new coin). Thats about 40.000$, and we simply cannot pay that right now.
Still waiting to be listed at yobit too. Hope they will add us this week.
We need more volume in exchanges to make the price rise. Thats all!
Btw we are all here and working to improve everything .
Thanks all for your support!
Regards
-DEV-
Wow, that is quite a number. I mean you guys didn't collect any serious money upfront development, did you? And btw, can't you try to negotiate with them? I mean, that's really bad to hear with your timing.
I hope your team will be recovering investor money with 2dot that you paid for listing.
Also...
If android is so easy to hack... Why not switch your platform over to IOS first... Avoid any hacker problems, build the token's reputation while you correct the android functionality in the background..
Each time the Android game is updated and fails, we lose Investor support... But if you were to put out a fully functional program on IOS and avoid those APK hacks, this would allow you to get additional support which in turn becomes votes on Nova which brings extra support as well.
Or.... Pull the game down all together until you are able to correct those issues... The community is better off without anything than to continue to download errored programming that makes your team look like they keep missing the ball.... We believe in you... We just think it needs to be done a little differently because it's not just you you're working for now... You have to play politics as well or the coin will go to 0 and you won't have money to continue development, and we'll have to take the loss.
Thank you for your time.
Big Supporter here.
Ok so there was investor money involved? How much money did they collect then in total?
September 13, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
I play games a lot since I sold most coins. Maybe I can get some back now.
September 13, 2017, 11:31:21 AM
Help me please, I downloaded the wallet, but it is not synchronizing, any tips please?
September 13, 2017, 09:08:41 AM
Hackers will keep on eating your game scores day in day out ..Unless your game scores and most of things are verified on server.
Since the android , iOS or PC games all are client based they are easy to cheat if there is no serverside check.
We are also working on somewhat similar model to Playcoins but with one big MMORPG game.
We are very carefully trying to place most of our functionality with server checks to avoid cheating.
If all your game resides on the client they will cheat.
Hope this helps. Feel free to contact us and we can suggest a few things to avoid hack attempts.
Regads,
Arkan Games
Since the android , iOS or PC games all are client based they are easy to cheat if there is no serverside check.
We are also working on somewhat similar model to Playcoins but with one big MMORPG game.
We are very carefully trying to place most of our functionality with server checks to avoid cheating.
If all your game resides on the client they will cheat.
Hope this helps. Feel free to contact us and we can suggest a few things to avoid hack attempts.
Regads,
Arkan Games
This I like ALOT! We have other developers reaching wanting to be part of the production! Love it. The more people you can bring on board to do outside developing and put fresh eyes on the programming, the quicker this will come together. Especially if you can integrate Placo into an already established game that has been through these trials and tribulations.
That would create a backbone for the entire project and somewhere for investors to play while you work out the kinks.
VERY COOL stuff here!
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