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everybodyclapyohands

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Quote from: erk on July 19, 2013, 02:55:58 AM

Quote from: gen666 on July 19, 2013, 02:46:24 AM

How long to receive the coin in P2Pool?

receiving should be within minutes, however it may take a day before you are entitled to receive a coin, you have to earn p2pool shares first, then the pool has to actually find a block. I wouldn't recommend p2pool if you are not familiar with how it works, you are liable to receive nothing if you don't do it correctly. eg. you must use your own wallet not Cryptsy.

To clarify, you must use a SOFTWARE wallet. Erundook's online wallets (wallet.epools.org) are also NOT p2pool compatible since it is a shared wallet just like pools and exchanges use.

erk

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Quote from: gen666 on July 19, 2013, 02:46:24 AM

How long to receive the coin in P2Pool?

receiving should be within minutes, however it may take a day before you are entitled to receive a coin, you have to earn p2pool shares first, then the pool has to actually find a block. I wouldn't recommend p2pool if you are not familiar with how it works, you are liable to receive nothing if you don't do it correctly. eg. you must use your own wallet not Cryptsy.

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How long to receive the coin in P2Pool?

erk

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Quote from: nearmiss on July 18, 2013, 04:25:07 PM

Quote from: erk on July 18, 2013, 04:12:23 PM

Quote from: CartmanSPC on July 18, 2013, 01:19:36 PM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:01:16 AM

We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

I would suggest you avoid epools as well. From what I have heard that pool op is not responsible as can be seen with his DGC and WDC pool.

I would suggest using arg.scryptmining.com

http://arg.epools.org is fine, the gui is way faster for me than http://arg.scryptmining.com

Hey now, while it may be a running joke among some of us that a few of my sites load slower than molasses, its thankfully got no impact on mining

(and a total re-write of the interface is in progress).

While 'epools is fine' is accurate, having a huge portion of the hashrate isn't so 'fine'.

Earlier in the week, arg.scryptmining.com had 5 times the has that epools did, way over 50%, I was the only miner on epools for like 20hrs at one stage, I mine and check both pools often, epools has only picked up in the last day or so. Both are guilty of sitting over 50% this week.

I noticed that multipool.in have added stratum+tcp://pool1.us.multipool.in:3346 for ARG so you don't have to participate in the bouncing. This is a good thing.

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Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 04:24:16 PM

I was getting much lower solo mining. Let's see what happens once we have stable hash.

When will it be?

nearmiss

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Quote from: erk on July 18, 2013, 04:12:23 PM

Quote from: CartmanSPC on July 18, 2013, 01:19:36 PM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:01:16 AM

We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

I would suggest you avoid epools as well. From what I have heard that pool op is not responsible as can be seen with his DGC and WDC pool.

I would suggest using arg.scryptmining.com

http://arg.epools.org is fine, the gui is way faster for me than http://arg.scryptmining.com

Hey now, while it may be a running joke among some of us that a few of my sites load slower than molasses, its thankfully got no impact on mining

(and a total re-write of the interface is in progress).

While 'epools is fine' is accurate, having a huge portion of the hashrate isn't so 'fine'.

baritus

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Quote from: nearmiss on July 18, 2013, 03:37:12 PM

Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 03:11:10 PM

Do you know the actual orphan rate on your pool nearmiss?

4.7%

I was getting much lower solo mining. Let's see what happens once we have stable hash.

flound, thanks for the explanation. I'm not into pool software myself.

erk

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Quote from: CartmanSPC on July 18, 2013, 01:19:36 PM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:01:16 AM

We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

I would suggest you avoid epools as well. From what I have heard that pool op is not responsible as can be seen with his DGC and WDC pool.

I would suggest using arg.scryptmining.com

http://arg.epools.org is fine, the gui is way faster for me than http://arg.scryptmining.com

flound1129

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Quote from: nearmiss on July 18, 2013, 02:32:03 PM

Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 02:22:53 PM

flound, wouldn't it be a combination? I thought shares from orphan blocks are what is shown as invalid.

nah, you generally have perfectly valid shares for orphan blocks just like any other (after all its not an orphan until you've solved it and tried to submit it). Most sites I've seen don't really ever distinguish or list shares lost due to orphans (if they are in fact lost, and not just applied to another block). Invalids generally line up with actual rejected shares in your client, orphan block or not.

Stale shares are shares that are submitted by the miner after the pool has already detected a new block on the network. They are unavoidable as there will almost always be miners in the middle of a share that don't get the new block notification in time and still try to submit the share.

If you want to cut down on stales, you'd have to do work between the pool software and the miner, it has nothing to do with the coin client.

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Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 03:11:10 PM

Do you know the actual orphan rate on your pool nearmiss?

4.7%

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Do you know the actual orphan rate on your pool nearmiss?

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Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 02:22:53 PM

flound, wouldn't it be a combination? I thought shares from orphan blocks are what is shown as invalid.

nah, you generally have perfectly valid shares for orphan blocks just like any other (after all its not an orphan until you've solved it and tried to submit it). Most sites I've seen don't really ever distinguish or list shares lost due to orphans (if they are in fact lost, and not just applied to another block). Invalids generally line up with actual rejected shares in your client, orphan block or not.

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flound, wouldn't it be a combination? I thought shares from orphan blocks are what is shown as invalid.

everybodyclapyohands

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Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 02:12:08 PM

Some of my mining stats:

PAID SHARES
Your valid: 198920
Invalid: 687

= 0.345% orphan rate.

While it is still in the zeros, it should drop significantly and approach zero as the difficulty stabilizes.

My reject rate is less than 0.1% on http://arg.scryptmining.com .... no complaints here Cheesy

flound1129

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Quote from: baritus on July 18, 2013, 02:12:08 PM

Some of my mining stats:

PAID SHARES
Your valid: 198920
Invalid: 687

= 0.345% orphan rate.

While it is still in the zeros, it should drop significantly and approach zero as the difficulty stabilizes.

Those are stales, not orphans.

baritus

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Some of my mining stats:

PAID SHARES
Your valid: 198920
Invalid: 687

= 0.345% orphan rate.

While it is still in the zeros, it should drop significantly and approach zero as the difficulty stabilizes.

killdemon

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Quote from: CartmanSPC on July 18, 2013, 01:19:36 PM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:01:16 AM

We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

I would suggest you avoid epools as well. From what I have heard that pool op is not responsible as can be seen with his DGC and WDC pool.

I would suggest using arg.scryptmining.com

I will try that pool later. https://arg.d2.cc is fine also. We have a bunch of a decent pools but still we are lacking hash power. However situation is much better now comparing how it was after previous Multipool NW havoc.

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Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:01:16 AM

We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

I would suggest you avoid epools as well. From what I have heard that pool op is not responsible as can be seen with his DGC and WDC pool.

I would suggest using arg.scryptmining.com

killdemon

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Quote from: flound1129 on July 18, 2013, 09:53:54 AM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:22:10 AM

Quote from: Xmansk on July 18, 2013, 03:17:51 AM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:11:05 AM

Quote from: Xmansk on July 18, 2013, 03:05:05 AM

Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

Agree.
This is just a proof that ARG should get more support from miners. It is not just a pump and dump coin.

Leaving network at this disproportionately diff isn't motivating for miners.

You are right. I will continue to support ARG with half of my hash power whatever difficulty is. Hopefully and others will do the same.

At the current difficulty, mining ARG is still 1.49x as profitable as mining BTC. That's really not that bad.

There are also only about 3BTC worth of buy orders for ARG on cryptsy before it hits 0.001. So if you really believe in the coin, you could mine another easier coin and buy ARG with the proceeds. This will drive the price up and make mining profitable even at the higher diff.

You are trying to be a funny or what? I can be funny too.
I will just quote Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999). Obi-Wan: But ... Qui-Gon Jinn: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here."
And I will say no more! Grin

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Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:22:10 AM

Quote from: Xmansk on July 18, 2013, 03:17:51 AM

Quote from: killdemon on July 18, 2013, 03:11:05 AM

Quote from: Xmansk on July 18, 2013, 03:05:05 AM

Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

Agree.
This is just a proof that ARG should get more support from miners. It is not just a pump and dump coin.

Leaving network at this disproportionately diff isn't motivating for miners.

You are right. I will continue to support ARG with half of my hash power whatever difficulty is. Hopefully and others will do the same.

At the current difficulty, mining ARG is still 1.49x as profitable as mining BTC. That's really not that bad.

There are also only about 3BTC worth of buy orders for ARG on cryptsy before it hits 0.001. So if you really believe in the coin, you could mine another easier coin and buy ARG with the proceeds. This will drive the price up and make mining profitable even at the higher diff.

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