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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

How can you make a broad statement like that, obviously there are people of different intelligence levels and professions some are educated on politics while others see something in the news and believe everything they hear like sheep.  Anyway, I highly doubt you are better informed on our politics, what does a FOX advertisement sound like lol they lean to the right but I've never heard that expression before.

I think, his point is, that most of U.S. citizens have no problem with the system of two parties at all. When you look closer at the members of both big parties, you can see such big differencies, that elsewere in the world, they couldnt be members of the same ones.
Bernie would be probably a leftist-marxist as well as Elizabeth Warren. Hitlery rightist-liberal, just like Trump. And McCain would be conservative.
How can even these parties work, if members are so different? What are the true goals of the parties? Does anyone care?
Why are Americans happy to have no real choice?How can a president really do any change, if senate can block him?

I agree with you that the parties outside of the 2 big ones(D&R) are pretty much completely pointless in their attempts to nominate a president.  They will never get any media coverage and its honestly just a waste of time and money to campaign for a 3rd party presidential nomination.  Sorry but its true.

Very true. Even with ungodly amounts of money, 3rd party candidates can't succeed. The 2 party system is insurmountable from the outside. The change will have to come from within.

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 The presidential nominees will say all of this great stuff before the election but once they get elected they will find that they can not put into action even 10% of what they've said.  Look at the Obama campaign and all the promises he made that he literally did the exact opposite of.  This happens because like you said the 3 branches need to agree for policy to pass.  I guess the president can use an executive action to bypass this, but that turns into a very slippery slope.

Yes, it is a very ugly and well-known fact that US politicians lie on stances depending on who their audience is, hoping to trick them into supporting with a misinformed vote. Look at $hillary, she flip-flops sometimes in the same week. The only thing consistent about her is she will, when the chips are down, side with corporations that fund her political campaigns. She must to retain their funding. On the other hand, when you look at Mr. Sanders, his stances have been solid for over 30 years and not wavering. His campaign is funded by a lot of average people with small donations and not a few corporations with billions to gain by controlling politics and regulations. For them donating millions is an investment and it's tax deductible, helping the corporation in that way also. Screwing the people, thrice over. Bernie does not need to sell himself to the highest bidding corporation or anyone. He is not for sale.

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  I care a great bit about who is the next president because I think that we can not stand another 8 years of Obama type politics the country will literally fall.  This may be the last election if Clinton gets in.  That would be the worst possible scenario ever !  Her husband is a sexual predator, just think about that for a second.  All of the scandals around her its so sick that these mindless people are planning on voting for her.  God have mercy on their souls.

Thank you. Your concern is appreciated and shared greatly by some of us. God have mercy on us all if we allow for such a misinformed decision to be made. From TPP to endless and unjustified wars, the entire globe has much to lose if blood, oil, and money thirsty corporations are controlling this office by ways of their soulless puppet, #HillaryForPrison2016.

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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

How can you make a broad statement like that, obviously there are people of different intelligence levels and professions some are educated on politics while others see something in the news and believe everything they hear like sheep.  Anyway, I highly doubt you are better informed on our politics, what does a FOX advertisement sound like lol they lean to the right but I've never heard that expression before.

I think, his point is, that most of U.S. citizens have no problem with the system of two parties at all. When you look closer at the members of both big parties, you can see such big differencies, that elsewere in the world, they couldnt be members of the same ones.
Bernie would be probably a leftist-marxist as well as Elizabeth Warren. Hitlery rightist-liberal, just like Trump. And McCain would be conservative.
How can even these parties work, if members are so different? What are the true goals of the parties? Does anyone care?
Why are Americans happy to have no real choice?How can a president really do any change, if senate can block him?

I agree with you that the parties outside of the 2 big ones(D&R) are pretty much completely pointless in their attempts to nominate a president.  They will never get any media coverage and its honestly just a waste of time and money to campaign for a 3rd party presidential nomination.  Sorry but its true.  The presidential nominees will say all of this great stuff before the election but once they get elected they will find that they can not put into action even 10% of what they've said.  Look at the Obama campaign and all the promises he made that he literally did the exact opposite of.  This happens because like you said the 3 branches need to agree for policy to pass.  I guess the president can use an executive action to bypass this, but that turns into a very slippery slope.  I care a great bit about who is the next president because I think that we can not stand another 8 years of Obama type politics the country will literally fall.  This may be the last election if Clinton gets in.  That would be the worst possible scenario ever !  Her husband is a sexual predator, just think about that for a second.  All of the scandals around her its so sick that these mindless people are planning on voting for her.  God have mercy on their souls.
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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

How can you make a broad statement like that, obviously there are people of different intelligence levels and professions some are educated on politics while others see something in the news and believe everything they hear like sheep.  Anyway, I highly doubt you are better informed on our politics, what does a FOX advertisement sound like lol they lean to the right but I've never heard that expression before.

I think, his point is, that most of U.S. citizens have no problem with the system of two parties at all. When you look closer at the members of both big parties, you can see such big differencies, that elsewere in the world, they couldnt be members of the same ones.
Bernie would be probably a leftist-marxist as well as Elizabeth Warren. Hitlery rightist-liberal, just like Trump. And McCain would be conservative.
How can even these parties work, if members are so different? What are the true goals of the parties? Does anyone care?
Why are Americans happy to have no real choice?How can a president really do any change, if senate can block him?
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Thanks Hawaii!

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Oh yes, there is this today.  Grin



Looking forward to Hawaii's results. *cough* threesome *cough*

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I feel like this thread needs to concentrate on the coin rather than politics. Considering the premine I would increase the faucet, right now it's useless. Otherwise I like the idea and the dev's dedication.

The coin's purpose is to support progressive politicians, starting with Bernie Sanders. I do think a complete separation from politics would be against this purpose. To the best of my knowledge, this thread has done very well avoiding the mudslinging compared to other threads and staying focused on real political issues as well as maintaining the focus on the coin. I do think these issues and debating them does have a place here and discussion of them should be welcome. I have, to the very best of my ability, respected differing opinions and fielded comments in a polite and professional manner. Even when I was not granted the same courtesy.

Regarding the faucet payout, it was higher. I lowered it after I started seeing thousands of entries in 24 hours. There is no way there is a thousand valid entries in 24 hours. Some bitcoin faucets do not even see such numbers. Having no way to eliminate fraudulent entries or differentiate them from true entries, lowering the payout and paying them all was the only option. There was no one more disappointed in seeing this abuse and having to lower the payout than myself. However, this abuse of the faucet does seem to have subsided. I will revert back to the higher payout or even higher payout amounts starting tonight as you suggest.

Thank you for realizing and citing my dedication.

I see where you're coming from with the faucet. I ran a faucet as well, seemed to have blocked proxies, at least the large amount I tested, but was still exploited. Most successful faucets are able to protect themselves or are large enough to sustain it, but with the current value of BERN, the BERNcash faucet doesn't compare at all. 1 BERN is 25-70 satoshi, so the faucet is .25 to .7 satoshi per 24hrs, most bitcoin faucets are at least 500 satoshi per 24hrs, I know some that give 500 every 30min. Perhaps require an account with email confirmation, or just login/register with google/facebook/ect. Block mailinator and the effort to abuse it won't be worth the profit.

I entertained the thought of facebook ect but, that goes against the grain of anonymity. Not to mention some people are blocked from these services by their government.  I tried email before with one of my other faucets and because of disposable email addresses, that quickly turned into a waste of development time. That is why I dropped it from the BERN airdrop requirements. A fair amount of dev time and people that wanted to could easily circumvent, making honest entries the only ones truly effected by an added hurdle (spam folder, ect).

A faucet is really a balancing act in a lot of ways. I do know some steps could be, and in all rights should be, taken to slow down abuse of the faucet. Until I can devote the time away from my other projects and other aspects of this project, a watchful eye and throttled payouts will have to suffice. But, as promised, I will increase the payout amount. Like you previously said, the instamine does justify this. Thank you for calling attention to that fact.

Look forward to fat payouts BERN faucet goers. Starting in less than 2 hours. The market will have to absorb some but, that will make BERN more obtainable for those who want BERN. I would honestly rather be generous to all than stingy to all.
 
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I feel like this thread needs to concentrate on the coin rather than politics. Considering the premine I would increase the faucet, right now it's useless. Otherwise I like the idea and the dev's dedication.

The coin's purpose is to support progressive politicians, starting with Bernie Sanders. I do think a complete separation from politics would be against this purpose. To the best of my knowledge, this thread has done very well avoiding the mudslinging compared to other threads and staying focused on real political issues as well as maintaining the focus on the coin. I do think these issues and debating them does have a place here and discussion of them should be welcome. I have, to the very best of my ability, respected differing opinions and fielded comments in a polite and professional manner. Even when I was not granted the same courtesy.

Regarding the faucet payout, it was higher. I lowered it after I started seeing thousands of entries in 24 hours. There is no way there is a thousand valid entries in 24 hours. Some bitcoin faucets do not even see such numbers. Having no way to eliminate fraudulent entries or differentiate them from true entries, lowering the payout and paying them all was the only option. There was no one more disappointed in seeing this abuse and having to lower the payout than myself. However, this abuse of the faucet does seem to have subsided. I will revert back to the higher payout or even higher payout amounts starting tonight as you suggest.

Thank you for realizing and citing my dedication.

I see where you're coming from with the faucet. I ran a faucet as well, seemed to have blocked proxies, at least the large amount I tested, but was still exploited. Most successful faucets are able to protect themselves or are large enough to sustain it, but with the current value of BERN, the BERNcash faucet doesn't compare at all. 1 BERN is 25-70 satoshi, so the faucet is .25 to .7 satoshi per 24hrs, most bitcoin faucets are at least 500 satoshi per 24hrs, I know some that give 500 every 30min. Perhaps require an account with email confirmation, or just login/register with google/facebook/ect. Block mailinator and the effort to abuse it won't be worth the profit.
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I feel like this thread needs to concentrate on the coin rather than politics. Considering the premine I would increase the faucet, right now it's useless. Otherwise I like the idea and the dev's dedication.

The coin's purpose is to support progressive politicians, starting with Bernie Sanders. I do think a complete separation from politics would be against this purpose. To the best of my knowledge, this thread has done very well avoiding the mudslinging compared to other threads and staying focused on real political issues as well as maintaining the focus on the coin. I do think these issues and debating them does have a place here and discussion of them should be welcome. I have, to the very best of my ability, respected differing opinions and fielded comments in a polite and professional manner. Even when I was not granted the same courtesy.

Regarding the faucet payout, it was higher. I lowered it after I started seeing thousands of entries in 24 hours. There is no way there is a thousand valid entries in 24 hours. Some bitcoin faucets do not even see such numbers. Having no way to eliminate fraudulent entries or differentiate them from true entries, lowering the payout and paying them all was the only option. There was no one more disappointed in seeing this abuse and having to lower the payout than myself. However, this abuse of the faucet does seem to have subsided. I will revert back to the higher payout or even higher payout amounts starting tonight as you suggest.

Thank you for realizing and citing my dedication.
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I feel like this thread needs to concentrate on the coin rather than politics. Considering the premine I would increase the faucet, right now it's useless. Otherwise I like the idea and the dev's dedication.
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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

How can you make a broad statement like that, obviously there are people of different intelligence levels and professions some are educated on politics while others see something in the news and believe everything they hear like sheep.  Anyway, I highly doubt you are better informed on our politics, what does a FOX advertisement sound like lol they lean to the right but I've never heard that expression before.
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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

I apologize if I have spouted off on this thread a bit. Please understand I only do so to express my frustration with the mockery being made of politics in my country and hoping to get more of my countrymen involved. You are right, it is like a Fox advertisement and a down right vulgar one. I do try to let that not spill into this thread, as I have not even weighed in on the most recent republican fiasco. I will exercise more restraint.

You are also correct with the fact that I can find more people outside of this country willing to take an honest look at the issues and candidates which also frustrates me. Many people I talk to in Europe seem to care more about it than the people living here. I think many Americans are numb to the situation and feel they can not change anything. Evidence of a corrupt political system doing as it wishes for their entire lifetime and people not having, or realizing it is theirs for taking, the power to change things.

If there is only one thing we can be thankful for Bernie Sanders is that he has awakened people to a lot of things here in the states. I do hope that continues.

#StillSanders




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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 

I apologize if I have spouted off on this thread a bit. Please understand I only do so to express my frustration with the mockery being made of politics in my country and hoping to get more of my countrymen involved. You are right, it is like a Fox advertisement and a down right vulgar one. I do try to let that not spill into this thread, as I have not even weighed in on the most recent republican fiasco. I will exercise more restraint.

You are also correct with the fact that I can find more people outside of this country willing to take an honest look at the issues and candidates which also frustrates me. Many people I talk to in Europe seem to care more about it than the people living here. I think many Americans are numb to the situation and feel they can not change anything. Evidence of a corrupt political system doing as it wishes for their entire lifetime and people not having, or realizing it is theirs for taking, the power to change things.

If there is only one thing we can be thankful for Bernie Sanders is that he has awakened people to a lot of things here in the states. I do hope that continues.

#StillSanders


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This is a great endorsement from mother nature and perhaps a sign from above. While Bernie Sanders was addressing a large crowd in Portland Oregon, a small bird (a sparrow, I think) visited him on the podium! Smiley



Here is a link to the video on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PeopleForBernie/videos/1775144282705778/

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That is cool, Hitlery would have bitten the head off it no doubt
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After reading through both this and the Trump coin thread the only conclusion I can come to is that Americans are completely retarded. I know not all of you  are but the vitriol people are spouting on both threads sounds like A Fox advertisement .

The fact I am better informed on your politics from 10000 KM away is scary

Nice coins though, for about 3 months

 
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This is a great endorsement from mother nature and perhaps a sign from above. While Bernie Sanders was addressing a large crowd in Portland Oregon, a small bird (a sparrow, I think) visited him on the podium! Smiley



Here is a link to the video on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PeopleForBernie/videos/1775144282705778/

#BirdieSanders




#BirdieSanders

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This is a great endorsement from mother nature and perhaps a sign from above. While Bernie Sanders was addressing a large crowd in Portland Oregon, a small bird (a sparrow, I think) visited him on the podium! Smiley



Here is a link to the video on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PeopleForBernie/videos/1775144282705778/

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Thanks for your reply mate !
I have an i7 4770k at 3.5 ghz right now but planning to overclock tomorrow at 4.2.It has 8 threads so at threads I put 8 I guess?Thank you!

Yes, you will want to use 8 threads. You should do well with that processor.  Shocked

This brings up another point I would like to elaborate on. I know I have explained this is this thread before but, please allow me to reiterate for the new members of the community. When designing BERN I wanted to make the coin easily obtainable for non-technical people. Through the airdrop, handing out paper airdrops, the faucet, and large block rewards, I think I have done everything I can to do this. In fact, a low cost of the coin was also in my design.

Another way I aimed to do make BERN more obtainable was using the X14 algorithm itself. X14 is basically X15 with the whirlpool algorithm removed. While both GPU's and CPU's see an increase in hash rate by removing this layer, it does favor CPU's significantly. CPU's see about a 15% increase in hash while GPU's see much less of an increase (<5%). This gives the already 'handicapped' CPU only miner a bit more of an advantage. If you have a CPU, you can CPU mine. GPU mining requires a modern GPU that are often very expense. Many, if not all, lower priced home computers do not have a GPU that is capable of mining. I viewed this as a way to level the playing field slightly and give average people more of a chance of mining. Adding the mining tab also was an attempt to lower the learning curve of mining and make it easier for people that could not devote large amounts of time into learning how to do it. I do believe BERN is the only X14 coin that has in-wallet mining.

Selecting X14 was also driven by the hope ASIC manufactures will not invade X14 purely based on the few number of coins using it, making the demand for such hardware and subsequently chances of profit low. ASIC manufactures can make an ASIC for most any algo and if the profit margin is large enough, they will do so as we are presently seeing in X11. In the long ~6 year PoW of BERN, at least half of the PoW coins (100 million) are almost guaranteed safe from ASIC invasion because they are being released in this current first PoW phase that will end in November. It is a safe bet there will be no X14 ASIC before November. What happens several years down the road as far as ASIC development is anyone's guess. But, if ASIC hardware is available for X14 by that time, the impact on BERN will be less severe as the majority of PoW coins would already be mined. Half before the presidential election this November.

I put much thought into all aspects of the design and distribution of BERN. I made every effort possible to make it easily obtainable, especially for non-technical people. Much like democracy, I want everyone to be able to participate in BERN if they so choose.
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