I bought some BRO and I get address 18Yco2o36QQp9q5N64pEPJkvcwmYWH8k3z
I send there 0.092BTC and there's no confirms yet
when I want to check there's informationa Bro balance: 0,00. Bitcoins send 0.00
any ideas?
Topic: [ANN][BRK] Breakout Coin | Sale June 13 2016 | Multicurrencies | Smart Contracts - page 44. (Read 243356 times)
November 13, 2014, 03:57:35 PM
November 13, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
Will this coin incur a sell wall buyback if ICO not met???
November 13, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
I dont know whats worse;
1. The fact that Barabbas aka IconicExpert is here FUDing BRO when he clearly has zero credibility givings other devs advice especially when it comes to launching a coin. (Seriously, go fix your shitscam of a coin ,BYTEshit before all else)
OR
2. You guys taking Barabbas/IE seriously. It's the same crap over and over again. He locks on a coin, and stalks it, & FUDs it like its his day job. Do yourselves a favor now and ban him since you guys obviously cant resist to ignore the fool.
1. The fact that Barabbas aka IconicExpert is here FUDing BRO when he clearly has zero credibility givings other devs advice especially when it comes to launching a coin. (Seriously, go fix your shitscam of a coin ,BYTEshit before all else)
OR
2. You guys taking Barabbas/IE seriously. It's the same crap over and over again. He locks on a coin, and stalks it, & FUDs it like its his day job. Do yourselves a favor now and ban him since you guys obviously cant resist to ignore the fool.
Pot calling the kettle black.
November 13, 2014, 01:23:32 PM
I dont know whats worse;
1. The fact that Barabbas aka IconicExpert is here FUDing BRO when he clearly has zero credibility givings other devs advice especially when it comes to launching a coin. (Seriously, go fix your shitscam of a coin ,BYTEshit before all else)
OR
2. You guys taking Barabbas/IE seriously. It's the same crap over and over again. He locks on a coin, and stalks it, & FUDs it like its his day job. Do yourselves a favor now and ban him since you guys obviously cant resist to ignore the fool.
1. The fact that Barabbas aka IconicExpert is here FUDing BRO when he clearly has zero credibility givings other devs advice especially when it comes to launching a coin. (Seriously, go fix your shitscam of a coin ,BYTEshit before all else)
OR
2. You guys taking Barabbas/IE seriously. It's the same crap over and over again. He locks on a coin, and stalks it, & FUDs it like its his day job. Do yourselves a favor now and ban him since you guys obviously cant resist to ignore the fool.
November 13, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
Agreed, BRO Dev team members are googleable public figures, located in Silicon Valley. BreakoutGaming can easily raise few million dollars from VCs if they want to.
VC firms are very eager to invest in Fantasy sports & e-sports these days:
Fanduel raised $86.2 Million in funding: http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/fanduel
DraftKings raised $76.4 Million in funding: http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/draftkings
Investing in crypto startups is also very appealing to VC firms and institutional investors: http://www.futuresmag.com/2014/11/10/institutional-interest-in-bitcoin-surges-as-tradin
I think the reason behind announcing BRO ICO on Bitcointalk is to not only give crypto community an early shot at this ICO, but also to allow for a fair distribution that's necessary to secure the PoS (PoB) network by ensuring a large number of active nodes, as opposed to raising funds from just a couple of VC firms.
Yes, you are 100% right.
I still don't understand why these guys can't simply gather up $250k(~700BTC) from their celebrity endorsers. Something isn't right.
This is an opportunity for the crypto community to participate in the coin sale. We are offering the crypto community first chance at the coins, The sale purpose is to:
1. Offer the crypto community first chance at the coins and Bergstake.
2. Spread the coin to a wide and diverse group as possible.
3. If the crypto community does not reach the proposed amount, we will be taking it to a private sale as you suggested
4. If we didn't offer the general public the chance at the coins first, there would be a chance of negative reaction.
5. There has already been significant investment in time and money into the project.
+1 and keep cool and confident, some of the haters will be even more haters in one or two months !
November 13, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
with the Huge jump in BTC price today we should get an increase in the coins we get about 25% id say so can we get back to 5k for 1 btc now ?
pretty much same value in USD or are we penalized for investing in BTC ?
This actually makes it Alot more expensive to get in late if u count BTC value in USD wich i do.
its only more expensive if you are going from usd to bro. if you already have btc, its the same. in general, alt-coins are valued in btc terms.
if btc does settle around 450, you do have a good suggestion regarding the price levels. however they do seem to be fair to buyers, and giving bonuses to buyers with btc a much higher levels can be done after sale. if you notice, any time a change was made to this process, an extra reward was given to those already in before the change. i would expect this to continue.
November 13, 2014, 08:23:54 AM
Breakout Coin Genesis Sale
Current price:
1 bitcoin buys 3,500 BRO
next price: 1 bitcoin buys 3,000 BRO at block 330132
next price: 1 bitcoin buys 3,000 BRO at block 330132
November 13, 2014, 06:35:49 AM
I will probably still be a customer but at current rates i wont be an investor.
You can make some of the people happy all the time, but you can never make all the people happy. I bought in as early as possible, so I'm happy. You didn't buy in early, so you aren't happy. The early bird gets the worm and the same goes for investments. That's the way the world works.
You knew about this structure when you posted on October 30th, when you could have bought in at 6k.
That was allready lower the the Initial Ico ..
They changed EVERYTHING , After the ICO started , most of the things that changed I and several other people in this thread suggested.
(in my earlier posts before things changed u can read that i wouldnt mind paying 8% but i didnt want to put my btc to sleep for a month.)
(also No mining Bergstake for ICO only those changes where made because I and a few others pointed out the flaws in that)
No need to thank us or anything. But apperantly the "fud" worked out well for everyone there. Except the miners.
(dont believe just read the thread.)
What they Should have done is Restart the ICO with the NEW terms and shorten it.
What im trying to explain is that it makes 0 sense for me personally to pay allmost double for something that someone else just paid half for less then a month ago without a significant ammount of progress in the project.(if something like the Beta started and the first people bought in before it started I'd totally understand . but nothing like that happend.)
Jake let me ask u this ,
If u had only now found out about this project would u buy now at 4k per btc? knowing that a few 100 btc sold at 6500 a btc ?
I doubt it , id be surprised if more then a few btc comes in in the last weeks and if thats the case the ICO should have just been 2 weeks shorter.
(IMO this is how the world works
agree to disagree.
I don't get you people at all, a bunch of complete hypocrites.
On a hand you don't want to keep your bitcoins "blocked" for a month (gosh, why are you people call that an investment anyway), I get that, you want in and you want out as fast as possible to make a quick buck
On the other hand, you are frustrated for paying an extra for NOT having your BTC blocked for a month.
WTF?
?!!!!!Believe me, this team does not care about guys like your, trying to make some quick buck.
If you are making an investment act like it. Invest for a med-long term.
2x the initial price? Who gives a quack, this can go 100x without problem if everything goes well.
Now, get your head out of sand and think straight already.
"Ohhhh, I'm gonna tell this to my mom, you are some mean devs, making me pay 2x the initial price..."
I hope more projects will adopt this idea so we don't get some P&D ninjas out there ready to by in the last hours into the projects, messing the distribution.
Good job BRO team BTW.
Really your going for the your mom comments wow .. the ignorance ..
Its very easy to prove me wrong ,we will both look at the numbers next week and see where we are at ok ?
U seem to be thinking Im taking this personal .. you couldnt be more wrong im thinking about EVERYONE that might want to invest at this time.
U might not see it that way but im trying to IMPROVE the project and its chances of success.(see changes made in the past)
I fail to see how u brining my mother into this does anything positive for the project.
You leak frustration all over the place dude...
Your mother? For real?
How on earth this comment have anything to do with your mother???
"Ohhhh, I'm gonna tell this to my mom, you are some mean devs, making me pay 2x the initial price..."
Anyway...
November 13, 2014, 01:41:00 AM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
Devs said they just needed $250K USD to complete the software. So far, $116K USD has been raised, and there's still another 7 days to go. I'd say they're not too far from their goal.
It's unfortunate that the ICO started in the worst BTC bear market, but things are now changing and BRO launch will thrive in this coming BTC bull market.
I can't think of any other coin that has this killer combination of 1. Technological breakthrough 2. Massive potential market 3. Top notch Marketing and 4. Celebrity endorsement.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap list is a no brainer, which means BRO will starts selling from 200 to 100 BRO per BTC.
In that case, all of you are going to be very rich very quick, why the anger?
U know that every post u make takes 10k sat of the coins value , u are the great and powerfull Bas.
I for one enjoy reading your comments most of the time when your not beeing to patronizing and douchy.
You are critical of every potential flaw and are most of the time just asking for clarification wich as far as i know isnt a crime yet.(Ask Why Asshole)*Enron qoute
Sadly you are human and let yourself get dragged in to mudslinging contests with people that have "Faith"*see religion the nr1 all time killer on this planet.
to the 200 to 100 per BTC comment i can only say i dont think the market agrees with u at the moment, If u think this is all the BTC thats arround only about 110k usd worth ? Scratch that +25%
If this was such a sure thing the money would be in allready u know it i know it.
with the Huge jump in BTC price today we should get an increase in the coins we get about 25% id say so can we get back to 5k for 1 btc now ?
pretty much same value in USD or are we penalized for investing in BTC ?
This actually makes it Alot more expensive to get in late if u count BTC value in USD wich i do.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap means $25m to $100m market cap:
http://coinmarketcap.com
Since Max Supply = 19.5m BRO, that means $1 to $5 per BRO, hence the 200 to 100 BRO per BTC potential pricing.
IMO, that makes any price beyond 1000 BRO per BTC a bargain.
And that is all very nice and dandy and with a cherry on top but, in the meantime, 6 more days to go and this is not getting even remotely close to 300 BTC, even at this highly increased price of BTC to FIAT conversion, still means HALF of what the minimally need to go on with the project. Problem number one. Expecting anyone, angel or otherwise, to pay at the level of 1000 BRO to 1 BTC is not just optimistic, it's frankly delirius. But lets assume that someone buys 300,000 BRO+Bergstake for 300 BTC, thus making it possible for the project to go ahead... that scenario leaves the following situation: Breakout gaming keeps roughly 8 million BRO+Bergstake and it's dev team another 2.5 million BRO+Bergstake. How's that for a flooded marketplace with supply up the wazoo and, at least in the beginning, minimal demand. How that strikes you as a situation in which the price will reach 100-200 BRO (no bergstake) per 1 BTC? Likely? I didn't think so. Now you tell me who is going to buy those 8 million BRO+Bergstake, because I cannot fin any even remote reason for anyone willing to pay for them what would amount to a fortune, putting it together with the recent increase in price of BTC, paying for them, wholesale or retail, about 10 times what the initial investors paid.
This is just a scenario based not only on potential facts but on very LIKELY ones, alright?
Now, compare that situation, almost certain to happen, with one in which, whatever amount collected in the crowdfunding, determines the final price of the BRO/Bergstake combo and the 10 million units of it have the price that the market determines, no loose coins for Breakout Gaming, no the most idiotic angel investors ever to exist, no nonsense of any short. Whatever the money collected divided by 10 million coins+bergstake = price. And everything sold. Way different, isn't it?
Just a thought.
Lots of luck.
November 13, 2014, 12:55:14 AM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
Devs said they just needed $250K USD to complete the software. So far, $116K USD has been raised, and there's still another 7 days to go. I'd say they're not too far from their goal.
It's unfortunate that the ICO started in the worst BTC bear market, but things are now changing and BRO launch will thrive in this coming BTC bull market.
I can't think of any other coin that has this killer combination of 1. Technological breakthrough 2. Massive potential market 3. Top notch Marketing and 4. Celebrity endorsement.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap list is a no brainer, which means BRO will starts selling from 200 to 100 BRO per BTC.
In that case, all of you are going to be very rich very quick, why the anger?
U know that every post u make takes 10k sat of the coins value , u are the great and powerfull Bas.
I for one enjoy reading your comments most of the time when your not beeing to patronizing and douchy.
You are critical of every potential flaw and are most of the time just asking for clarification wich as far as i know isnt a crime yet.(Ask Why Asshole)*Enron qoute
Sadly you are human and let yourself get dragged in to mudslinging contests with people that have "Faith"*see religion the nr1 all time killer on this planet.
to the 200 to 100 per BTC comment i can only say i dont think the market agrees with u at the moment, If u think this is all the BTC thats arround only about 110k usd worth ? Scratch that +25%
If this was such a sure thing the money would be in allready u know it i know it.
with the Huge jump in BTC price today we should get an increase in the coins we get about 25% id say so can we get back to 5k for 1 btc now ?
pretty much same value in USD or are we penalized for investing in BTC ?
This actually makes it Alot more expensive to get in late if u count BTC value in USD wich i do.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap means $25m to $100m market cap:
http://coinmarketcap.com
Since Max Supply = 19.5m BRO, that means $1 to $5 per BRO, hence the 200 to 100 BRO per BTC potential pricing.
IMO, that makes any price beyond 1000 BRO per BTC a bargain.
November 12, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
Devs said they just needed $250K USD to complete the software. So far, $116K USD has been raised, and there's still another 7 days to go. I'd say they're not too far from their goal.
It's unfortunate that the ICO started in the worst BTC bear market, but things are now changing and BRO launch will thrive in this coming BTC bull market.
I can't think of any other coin that has this killer combination of 1. Technological breakthrough 2. Massive potential market 3. Top notch Marketing and 4. Celebrity endorsement.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap list is a no brainer, which means BRO will starts selling from 200 to 100 BRO per BTC.
In that case, all of you are going to be very rich very quick, why the anger?
U know that every post u make takes 10k sat of the coins value , u are the great and powerfull Bas.
I for one enjoy reading your comments most of the time when your not beeing to patronizing and douchy.
You are critical of every potential flaw and are most of the time just asking for clarification wich as far as i know isnt a crime yet.(Ask Why Asshole)*Enron qoute
Sadly you are human and let yourself get dragged in to mudslinging contests with people that have "Faith"*see religion the nr1 all time killer on this planet.
to the 200 to 100 per BTC comment i can only say i dont think the market agrees with u at the moment, If u think this is all the BTC thats arround only about 110k usd worth ? Scratch that +25%
If this was such a sure thing the money would be in allready u know it i know it.
with the Huge jump in BTC price today we should get an increase in the coins we get about 25% id say so can we get back to 5k for 1 btc now ?
pretty much same value in USD or are we penalized for investing in BTC ?
This actually makes it Alot more expensive to get in late if u count BTC value in USD wich i do.
November 12, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
I will probably still be a customer but at current rates i wont be an investor.
You can make some of the people happy all the time, but you can never make all the people happy. I bought in as early as possible, so I'm happy. You didn't buy in early, so you aren't happy. The early bird gets the worm and the same goes for investments. That's the way the world works.
You knew about this structure when you posted on October 30th, when you could have bought in at 6k.
That was allready lower the the Initial Ico ..
They changed EVERYTHING , After the ICO started , most of the things that changed I and several other people in this thread suggested.
(in my earlier posts before things changed u can read that i wouldnt mind paying 8% but i didnt want to put my btc to sleep for a month.)
(also No mining Bergstake for ICO only those changes where made because I and a few others pointed out the flaws in that)
No need to thank us or anything. But apperantly the "fud" worked out well for everyone there. Except the miners.
(dont believe just read the thread.)
What they Should have done is Restart the ICO with the NEW terms and shorten it.
What im trying to explain is that it makes 0 sense for me personally to pay allmost double for something that someone else just paid half for less then a month ago without a significant ammount of progress in the project.(if something like the Beta started and the first people bought in before it started I'd totally understand . but nothing like that happend.)
Jake let me ask u this ,
If u had only now found out about this project would u buy now at 4k per btc? knowing that a few 100 btc sold at 6500 a btc ?
I doubt it , id be surprised if more then a few btc comes in in the last weeks and if thats the case the ICO should have just been 2 weeks shorter.
(IMO this is how the world works
agree to disagree.
I don't get you people at all, a bunch of complete hypocrites.
On a hand you don't want to keep your bitcoins "blocked" for a month (gosh, why are you people call that an investment anyway), I get that, you want in and you want out as fast as possible to make a quick buck
On the other hand, you are frustrated for paying an extra for NOT having your BTC blocked for a month.
WTF?
?!!!!!Believe me, this team does not care about guys like your, trying to make some quick buck.
If you are making an investment act like it. Invest for a med-long term.
2x the initial price? Who gives a quack, this can go 100x without problem if everything goes well.
Now, get your head out of sand and think straight already.
"Ohhhh, I'm gonna tell this to my mom, you are some mean devs, making me pay 2x the initial price..."
I hope more projects will adopt this idea so we don't get some P&D ninjas out there ready to by in the last hours into the projects, messing the distribution.
Good job BRO team BTW.
Really your going for the your mom comments wow .. the ignorance ..
Its very easy to prove me wrong ,we will both look at the numbers next week and see where we are at ok ?
U seem to be thinking Im taking this personal .. you couldnt be more wrong im thinking about EVERYONE that might want to invest at this time.
U might not see it that way but im trying to IMPROVE the project and its chances of success.(see changes made in the past)
I fail to see how u brining my mother into this does anything positive for the project.
November 12, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
Devs said they just needed $250K USD to complete the software. So far, $116K USD has been raised, and there's still another 7 days to go. I'd say they're not too far from their goal.
It's unfortunate that the ICO started in the worst BTC bear market, but things are now changing and BRO launch will thrive in this coming BTC bull market.
I can't think of any other coin that has this killer combination of 1. Technological breakthrough 2. Massive potential market 3. Top notch Marketing and 4. Celebrity endorsement.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap list is a no brainer, which means BRO will starts selling from 200 to 100 BRO per BTC.
In that case, all of you are going to be very rich very quick, why the anger?
November 12, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
Devs said they just needed $250K USD to complete the software. So far, $116K USD has been raised, and there's still another 7 days to go. I'd say they're not too far from their goal.
It's unfortunate that the ICO started in the worst BTC bear market, but things are now changing and BRO launch will thrive in this coming BTC bull market.
I can't think of any other coin that has this killer combination of 1. Technological breakthrough 2. Massive potential market 3. Top notch Marketing and 4. Celebrity endorsement.
A spot among top 5 in Coin Market Cap list is a no brainer, which means BRO will starts selling from 200 to 100 BRO per BTC.
November 12, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
Questions
There are 10.000.000 BRO available for ICO.
Seems that we have some fixed amounts/BTC, what happens with the unsold coins? Will those coins be distributed to the investors based on how much they invested?
There are 10.000.000 BRO available for ICO.
Seems that we have some fixed amounts/BTC, what happens with the unsold coins? Will those coins be distributed to the investors based on how much they invested?
November 12, 2014, 08:53:20 PM
I will probably still be a customer but at current rates i wont be an investor.
You can make some of the people happy all the time, but you can never make all the people happy. I bought in as early as possible, so I'm happy. You didn't buy in early, so you aren't happy. The early bird gets the worm and the same goes for investments. That's the way the world works.
You knew about this structure when you posted on October 30th, when you could have bought in at 6k.
That was allready lower the the Initial Ico ..
They changed EVERYTHING , After the ICO started , most of the things that changed I and several other people in this thread suggested.
(in my earlier posts before things changed u can read that i wouldnt mind paying 8% but i didnt want to put my btc to sleep for a month.)
(also No mining Bergstake for ICO only those changes where made because I and a few others pointed out the flaws in that)
No need to thank us or anything. But apperantly the "fud" worked out well for everyone there. Except the miners.
(dont believe just read the thread.)
What they Should have done is Restart the ICO with the NEW terms and shorten it.
What im trying to explain is that it makes 0 sense for me personally to pay allmost double for something that someone else just paid half for less then a month ago without a significant ammount of progress in the project.(if something like the Beta started and the first people bought in before it started I'd totally understand . but nothing like that happend.)
Jake let me ask u this ,
If u had only now found out about this project would u buy now at 4k per btc? knowing that a few 100 btc sold at 6500 a btc ?
I doubt it , id be surprised if more then a few btc comes in in the last weeks and if thats the case the ICO should have just been 2 weeks shorter.
(IMO this is how the world works
agree to disagree.
I don't get you people at all, a bunch of complete hypocrites.
On a hand you don't want to keep your bitcoins "blocked" for a month (gosh, why are you people call that an investment anyway), I get that, you want in and you want out as fast as possible to make a quick buck
On the other hand, you are frustrated for paying an extra for NOT having your BTC blocked for a month.
WTF?
?!!!!!Believe me, this team does not care about guys like your, trying to make some quick buck.
If you are making an investment act like it. Invest for a med-long term.
2x the initial price? Who gives a quack, this can go 100x without problem if everything goes well.
Now, get your head out of sand and think straight already.
"Ohhhh, I'm gonna tell this to my mom, you are some mean devs, making me pay 2x the initial price..."
I hope more projects will adopt this idea so we don't get some P&D ninjas out there ready to by in the last hours into the projects, messing the distribution.
Good job BRO team BTW.
November 12, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
Its not, they have allready stated that the "missing" cash not raised by the ICO would be filled up by "Angel" (RL) investors.
However my question to that is will those investor(s) buy the coins&bergstake or will they get a piece of the overall company?
I highly doubt that those investors would agree to get the equivalent of 3500 B&C so my question about that is what will their end be (per BTC they have to add on).
Depending on the numbers I might be interrested in that end
What kind of numbers should i be thinking to get a piece of that Pie or is that not on the table?They have stated numerous times that that "Pie" is indeed NOT on the table. But things may and do change sometimes...
November 12, 2014, 08:39:59 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
"working" means that they won't be able to sell any significant amount of BRO from now on, private offering or not... if by "private" we assume that they will not simply keep the coins themselves.
And contrary to your opinion, I believe the investment has already been made and there's no more available capital, other than what this crowd funding effort produces.
But Jake, it is just my opinion. I have given it to you in some other projects also, so give it whatever value you deem it deserves.
One thing I could tell you right now: Unless they pay themselves selling to themselves the rest of the BRO, there's no way, none, that they are going to reach the 700 BTC that they said they need, at the minimum, to get the project started. And you have to understand that even if by some miracle that number is legitimately reached, there would still be MILLIONS of BROs and Bergstakes "floating", so to speak, left unsold.
November 12, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
It is just a very poor, unfortunate decision by the dev team that, obviously, will not work. It has ZERO chance to work.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
The dev team simply tried the impossible, which is to please everyone instead of doing the proper thing which was the initial plan of letting the market itself determine the price. This is going to be a mess in the end, I'm afraid.
What does working mean? You are assuming that Breakoutcoin is like all the other scam alternative projects that need bitcointalk to stay alive. Breakoutcoin should be less reliant on Bitcointalk then just about any other alternative crypto project. I would hope David Hanlon and the rest of the Breakoutgaming team isn't relying on Bitcointalk for the necessary funding. FFS, he was the Chief Operating Officer of the Rio Hotel Casino. How could they not have alternative funding sources outside of this sewer of a forum?
Barabbas, I would agree with you 100% if I thought this offering was the only funding source, but this project has too many well known players for me to believe that's the case.
Its not, they have allready stated that the "missing" cash not raised by the ICO would be filled up by "Angel" (RL) investors.
However my question to that is will those investor(s) buy the coins&bergstake or will they get a piece of the overall company?
I highly doubt that those investors would agree to get the equivalent of 3500 B&C so my question about that is what will their end be (per BTC they have to add on).
Depending on the numbers I might be interrested in that end
What kind of numbers should i be thinking to get a piece of that Pie or is that not on the table? November 12, 2014, 08:04:37 PM
I will probably still be a customer but at current rates i wont be an investor.
You can make some of the people happy all the time, but you can never make all the people happy. I bought in as early as possible, so I'm happy. You didn't buy in early, so you aren't happy. The early bird gets the worm and the same goes for investments. That's the way the world works.
You knew about this structure when you posted on October 30th, when you could have bought in at 6k.
That was allready lower the the Initial Ico ..
They changed EVERYTHING , After the ICO started , most of the things that changed I and several other people in this thread suggested.
(in my earlier posts before things changed u can read that i wouldnt mind paying 8% but i didnt want to put my btc to sleep for a month.)
(also No mining Bergstake for ICO only those changes where made because I and a few others pointed out the flaws in that)
No need to thank us or anything. But apperantly the "fud" worked out well for everyone there. Except the miners.
(dont believe just read the thread.)
What they Should have done is Restart the ICO with the NEW terms and shorten it.
What im trying to explain is that it makes 0 sense for me personally to pay allmost double for something that someone else just paid half for less then a month ago without a significant ammount of progress in the project.(if something like the Beta started and the first people bought in before it started I'd totally understand . but nothing like that happend.)
Jake let me ask u this ,
If u had only now found out about this project would u buy now at 4k per btc? knowing that a few 100 btc sold at 6500 a btc ?
I doubt it , id be surprised if more then a few btc comes in in the last weeks and if thats the case the ICO should have just been 2 weeks shorter.
(IMO this is how the world works
agree to disagree.
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