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Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 1094. (Read 2170889 times)

hero member
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So how long until people realize you can just as effectively add more volumes to an Amazon EC2 instance than buying harddrives. Wink  This type of mining is ripe for abuse until storage providers adjust their pricing models. Kudos to all the guys who jumped in on this early.  More coins will certainly come. Hopefully with a more straight forward method to getting everything setup.

Yup, long-term vs short-term mining. However, S3 will cost around $30/month/TB, whereas you can buy 5TB hard drives for $200, or around $40/TB, with a 2-3 year warranty. Also, consider that you'll need a beefy EC2 instance to originally generate the plots, so add in a c3.8xlarge, cc2.8xlarge, or r3.8xlarge instance, which can generate somewhere around 14000 nonces/min for $0.28/hr, or around 205GB/hr. So each TB of S3 storage will require around $1.70 for generation, plus $30/month to hold. After three months, a 5TB setup would cost you a bit over $460 to run. Reduced redundancy storage is marginally cheaper, and volume discounts save you a bit over 3% once you cross the 450TB barrier, so S3 doesn't get considerably cheaper.

Here's a cheaper solution for people wanting to do hard drive mining in the cloud:
Find a dedicated server provider who offers high-storage dedicated servers AND high-CPU dedicated servers in the same Datacenter. Look for ones with unlimited or unmetered connections for inside-database transfers. Make sure the port speed on each machine is at least 500Mbps, 1Gbps up for high-CPU and down for storage is preferred.
Rent a high-CPU server for a month, and generate plots.
Move plots from high-CPU box to storage box, using ftp or wget.
Have storage server periodically (once every few hours) restart the mining process to account for newly-transferred plot files.

Of course the above could be easily automated with some creative scripting or some form of network signaling, but even manually the above process requires very little attention, and once your storage server is filled, you can cancel the high-CPU dedicated server, or use it to fill the plots of another storage server. Some datacenters will allow you to rent servers weekly, so you can get a high-CPU server for one week. Be careful with using by-the-hour cloud machines for generation, as not only are they in different datacenters which may cause bandwidth issues, but bandwidth on per-hour servers is almost always very expensive. 1TB of traffic out from EC2 to the internet would cost you around $122.88.


The service you are offering is a good deal and more convenient. So, some would be better getting a service from someone like you or run their own storage server. Power cost are really low, even with a 20x 4TB HDD array compared to gpu/asic mining.
hero member
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Big buy wall at 360 sats on c-cex
Price slowly rising to 1000 sats
sr. member
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I think it will cost 1 dollar in 2 months.
sr. member
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So how long until people realize you can just as effectively add more volumes to an Amazon EC2 instance than buying harddrives. Wink  This type of mining is ripe for abuse until storage providers adjust their pricing models. Kudos to all the guys who jumped in on this early.  More coins will certainly come. Hopefully with a more straight forward method to getting everything setup.

Yup, long-term vs short-term mining. However, S3 will cost around $30/month/TB, whereas you can buy 5TB hard drives for $200, or around $40/TB, with a 2-3 year warranty. Also, consider that you'll need a beefy EC2 instance to originally generate the plots, so add in a c3.8xlarge, cc2.8xlarge, or r3.8xlarge instance, which can generate somewhere around 14000 nonces/min for $0.28/hr, or around 205GB/hr. So each TB of S3 storage will require around $1.70 for generation, plus $30/month to hold. After three months, a 5TB setup would cost you a bit over $460 to run. Reduced redundancy storage is marginally cheaper, and volume discounts save you a bit over 3% once you cross the 450TB barrier, so S3 doesn't get considerably cheaper.

Here's a cheaper solution for people wanting to do hard drive mining in the cloud:
Find a dedicated server provider who offers high-storage dedicated servers AND high-CPU dedicated servers in the same Datacenter. Look for ones with unlimited or unmetered connections for inside-database transfers. Make sure the port speed on each machine is at least 500Mbps, 1Gbps up for high-CPU and down for storage is preferred.
Rent a high-CPU server for a month, and generate plots.
Move plots from high-CPU box to storage box, using ftp or wget.
Have storage server periodically (once every few hours) restart the mining process to account for newly-transferred plot files.

Of course the above could be easily automated with some creative scripting or some form of network signaling, but even manually the above process requires very little attention, and once your storage server is filled, you can cancel the high-CPU dedicated server, or use it to fill the plots of another storage server. Some datacenters will allow you to rent servers weekly, so you can get a high-CPU server for one week. Be careful with using by-the-hour cloud machines for generation, as not only are they in different datacenters which may cause bandwidth issues, but bandwidth on per-hour servers is almost always very expensive. 1TB of traffic out from EC2 to the internet would cost you around $122.88.

you can host 40tb for about 50$ each tb with marginal power costs on your own hardware.
this may be sufficient to mine for a few weeks.
only drawback is the plot generation.
not sure if vps makes sense.
hero member
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Merit: 505
I just see someone joined my pool, other than myself...

who ever that join my pool here http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io
please note that this pool is really under developments
we still have critical bugs, including share calculation and payment
you may get better payment than your submitted share or on the worse case, you will get paid less
please take this as your risk, i will announce when pool is ready for public, but i dont preventing anyone to join this pool

i cant connect to http://burst.cryptoport.io/
are you updating something?

sorry, just crashed, thank you for notifying me..
and yes that under development too, everything is.. omagad

Will you publish your code on git? That would be cool.


block-explorer is on git dude
legendary
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So how long until people realize you can just as effectively add more volumes to an Amazon EC2 instance than buying harddrives. Wink  This type of mining is ripe for abuse until storage providers adjust their pricing models. Kudos to all the guys who jumped in on this early.  More coins will certainly come. Hopefully with a more straight forward method to getting everything setup.

Yup, long-term vs short-term mining. However, S3 will cost around $30/month/TB, whereas you can buy 5TB hard drives for $200, or around $40/TB, with a 2-3 year warranty. Also, consider that you'll need a beefy EC2 instance to originally generate the plots, so add in a c3.8xlarge, cc2.8xlarge, or r3.8xlarge instance, which can generate somewhere around 14000 nonces/min for $0.28/hr, or around 205GB/hr. So each TB of S3 storage will require around $1.70 for generation, plus $30/month to hold. After three months, a 5TB setup would cost you a bit over $460 to run. Reduced redundancy storage is marginally cheaper, and volume discounts save you a bit over 3% once you cross the 450TB barrier, so S3 doesn't get considerably cheaper.

Here's a cheaper solution for people wanting to do hard drive mining in the cloud:
Find a dedicated server provider who offers high-storage dedicated servers AND high-CPU dedicated servers in the same Datacenter. Look for ones with unlimited or unmetered connections for inside-database transfers. Make sure the port speed on each machine is at least 500Mbps, 1Gbps up for high-CPU and down for storage is preferred.
Rent a high-CPU server for a month, and generate plots.
Move plots from high-CPU box to storage box, using ftp or wget.
Have storage server periodically (once every few hours) restart the mining process to account for newly-transferred plot files.

Of course the above could be easily automated with some creative scripting or some form of network signaling, but even manually the above process requires very little attention, and once your storage server is filled, you can cancel the high-CPU dedicated server, or use it to fill the plots of another storage server. Some datacenters will allow you to rent servers weekly, so you can get a high-CPU server for one week. Be careful with using by-the-hour cloud machines for generation, as not only are they in different datacenters which may cause bandwidth issues, but bandwidth on per-hour servers is almost always very expensive. 1TB of traffic out from EC2 to the internet would cost you around $122.88.
legendary
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I find 2 blocks when i mining on the pool if i solo mining i find this 2 blocks or it's cause i'm on the pool?
hero member
Activity: 522
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Hasta la Bitcoin siempre!
I just see someone joined my pool, other than myself...

who ever that join my pool here http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io
please note that this pool is really under developments
we still have critical bugs, including share calculation and payment
you may get better payment than your submitted share or on the worse case, you will get paid less
please take this as your risk, i will announce when pool is ready for public, but i dont preventing anyone to join this pool

i cant connect to http://burst.cryptoport.io/
are you updating something?

sorry, just crashed, thank you for notifying me..
and yes that under development too, everything is.. omagad

Will you publish your code on git? That would be cool.
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 505
I just see someone joined my pool, other than myself...

who ever that join my pool here http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io
please note that this pool is really under developments
we still have critical bugs, including share calculation and payment
you may get better payment than your submitted share or on the worse case, you will get paid less
please take this as your risk, i will announce when pool is ready for public, but i dont preventing anyone to join this pool

i cant connect to http://burst.cryptoport.io/
are you updating something?

sorry, just crashed, thank you for notifying me..
and yes that under development too, everything is.. omagad
sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250
I just see someone joined my pool, other than myself...

who ever that join my pool here http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io
please note that this pool is really under developments
we still have critical bugs, including share calculation and payment
you may get better payment than your submitted share or on the worse case, you will get paid less
please take this as your risk, i will announce when pool is ready for public, but i dont preventing anyone to join this pool

i cant connect to http://burst.cryptoport.io/
are you updating something?
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 505
I just see someone joined my pool, other than myself...

who ever that join my pool here http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io
please note that this pool is really under developments
we still have critical bugs, including share calculation and payment
you may get better payment than your submitted share or on the worse case, you will get paid less
please take this as your risk, i will announce when pool is ready for public, but i dont preventing anyone to join this pool
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
I think there is something wrong with the new pool.

My shares went down from 107 to 101 on http://178.62.39.204:8121/shares. I guess this is not how it is meant to be.  Cry

yeah they're trying to stole your shares, they stopped payout for 3h ago...
stay away

i think it is works fine, pool only pays you when it find the block and you submit the shares on that block, i got the pay one hour ago, and no payout in these time, may be pool can not find the block as frequently as we thought, still have lots of people continue to solo , lots of they have 10+TB or 20+TB,and even have 40TB+, they can compete with the pool


I'm watching this current block, there are users with less shares that minutes ago.
Can someone tell me why?
yuk
full member
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v1 pool seem better about rewards, v1 will merge whit v2?
sr. member
Activity: 476
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Right, it should be 118874,12 USD Market cap now, the 100th place  Smiley
hero member
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This is good for investors ... im sure that more people will join now .

If we will have multipool and after that a bigger exchange BURST can become a top 10 coin .
+1
If we get multipool + big exchange + simple gui plotter/miner = massive price increase

Need a QT wallet over a gui miner, but definitely an all in one miner and plotter would be nice. Also, a more simpler way of implementing the pool mining.

It looks like coinmarketcap is not parsing the total amount of coins at blockexplorer, i hope they will fix it  Wink
yeah, I think we should be in the top 100 atleast  Cheesy

It will probably be fixed....
hero member
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It looks like coinmarketcap is not parsing the total amount of coins at blockexplorer, i hope they will fix it  Wink
yeah, I think we should be in the top 100 atleast  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
It looks like coinmarketcap is not parsing the total amount of coins at blockexplorer, the coins with offline blockeplorer are always at bottom
 i hope they will fix it  Wink
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500

This is good for investors ... im sure that more people will join now .

If we will have multipool and after that a bigger exchange BURST can become a top 10 coin .
+1
If we get multipool + big exchange + simple gui plotter/miner = massive price increase
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250

This is good for investors ... im sure that more people will join now .

If we will have multipool and after that a bigger exchange BURST can become a top 10 coin .
sr. member
Activity: 289
Merit: 250
I lost about 4TB of plots due to drive failure and had to start over.  I have created plots for the v2 pool and only a few shares submitted so I cannot say how well that works yet.

Am I the only one who really still likes V1 pool? I only have about 800GB on this one and have been getting consistent payouts without a single hiccup.
I understand if you want to use your solo plots you have no other option to pool mine so need to use V2.

I really don't have the desire to solo mine, I wish I could get the "OK" that I can keep generating plots for V1 pool and all will continue to be well and a seamless transition as the Dev has said.
Dev......can you confirm that I can keep creating V1 pool plots and after the migration I can simply point those plots at the V2 pool as well? Thanks


That sucks about the hdd failure. Was it one single plot? Maybe should have done a RAID5 if it was a single plot?

V1 pool is easier to setup, wish that the future versions of pools after V2 will be as easy to setup, and can use both solo and pool plots.

I posted earlier about my experience with Windows storage spaces, but I thought that the simple resiliency would give me 1 logical volume and if drive failed I just lost data on that drive, instead it was striping data like RAID0 and I lost all plots. I don't want to waste space with RAID5, so I am just going JBOD and running separate miners like probably everybody else is doing. I am very pleased with Burst and the level of commitment from the Dev. It is refreshing to see something like this that's for sure.
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