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Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 1128. (Read 2170889 times)

legendary
Activity: 1421
Merit: 1001
We need the pool v2 as quickly as possible because for the moment all the blocks goes to the same hands (people have lot TB)
Thank you for returning fairer BUSRT for all the miners! For it pool v2 is essential!!

Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 255
... do i loose too much by using vm?! ...
normally you only loose up to 5% cpu but the storage may be slowed down if you plot onto a virtual disk.
if you mine onto a usb disk format it on windows with ntfs and mount it within you vm and plot onto it.
after the plotting is done you can unmount it and attach it directly to the windows host.

ok 5% is less than i thought ... nice ... using usb drive that way is a great idea ... thx!
hero member
Activity: 955
Merit: 1004
If I had 4 hard drives of 3TB or 4TB capacity, can I use the tools in Windows Disk Management to span them all into one large volume?  It'll take longer to plot them but I don't want tons of windows open, it'll be confusing.  And I'm just too lazy and don't want to have to keep track of multiple miners on one PC.  I'd rather have as few miner instances as possible.

In Windows 7 64 bit, with a seperate drive for the OS, how do I need to set up the drives to work as a 12-16 TB single drive?  Standard NTFS format will work to 16 TB?
hero member
Activity: 955
Merit: 1004
Can't buy coins, I still have 0.8 BTC tied up in CRYPT coin, waiting for it to rise.  I have told the developers how I will trash Mindfox, The Greasy Greek from Greece's name on any coin he works on if I don't get my 0.8 BTC back and they should just pay me off to keep me quiet, but they are still considering my offer.

I can mine only.  Selling off a few of my GPUs to finance hard drives.


sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250

the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.

GPT volume is way better in scaling compared to MBR. NTFS file system is ok, but EXT3/EXT4 is more efficient.
i still tried to setup a larger raid0 volume over 4 spans before burst and ran into trouble on windows7.
just made the volume 2tb and it worked but i am no windows pro and exactly that was my point in the post  Shocked
i run all storage apps on xfs and in some special cases on zfs.
sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250
I have a windows system, to run the linux tools from dcct (thx again and again) i use a vm with linux ... just finished setup and started generating plots.
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plot
100000000 2400000 24000 5
...
Creating plots for nonces 100000000 to 102400000 (585 GB) using 6000 MB memory and 5 threads
1 Percent done. 3106 nonces/minute
...
is this a acceptable speed, or do i loose too much by using vm?! threads running on i7@~3.9Ghz ...
normally you only loose up to 5% cpu but the storage may be slowed down if you plot onto a virtual disk.
if you mine onto a usb disk format it on windows with ntfs and mount it within you vm and plot onto it.
after the plotting is done you can unmount it and attach it directly to the windows host.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500

the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.

GPT volume is way better in scaling compared to MBR. NTFS file system is ok, but EXT3/EXT4 is more efficient.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0

the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 255
I have a windows system, to run the linux tools from dcct (thx again and again) i use a vm with linux ... just finished setup and started generating plots.
...
plot
100000000 2400000 24000 5
...
Creating plots for nonces 100000000 to 102400000 (585 GB) using 6000 MB memory and 5 threads
1 Percent done. 3106 nonces/minute
...
is this a acceptable speed, or do i loose too much by using vm?! threads running on i7@~3.9Ghz ...
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 503
7tb-hits 2 block today Grin
sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250
I'm trying to be less of an a$$hole, but damn, the people here piss me off so much, what with Linux-only crap and releasing half-assed miners that you have to be a damn coding engineer to finish and get mining for you.

Want to code somwething useful?  Code a program that will use GPUs to do the plotting.  I have a couple 280X's sitting around doing nothing.

I have 4 laptop drives spanned into a 605 GB volume, with a 1 to 2457300 plot size.  The AMD FX-4130 3.8 GHZ cpu took 2-1/2 days to plot that, it just finished this morning. Now it's mining for me solo.

I will join a pool once V2 comes out, I am trying to find cheap deals on hard drives right now.  I know a place that sells hard drives, I was trying to talk them into taking a 1 ounce gold bar I have in exchange for drives, but they stubbornly want cash or credit card only. 

Im glad your trying harder. It will get you a ton more help from the community.

I am 99% sure someone is working on windows implemenattions. You just have to be patient.

One thing you should realize is that the harder it is to setup the harder it is for the masses to mine and the better it is for you if you get it right. You will get far more coins that way.

We are here to help you. So if you ask nicely I am sure we can get things sorted out.

BTW your GPU's may never help write plots. Disk speeds are limited and just because a GPU can write the data really fast doesn't mean the disks can keep up.

Maybe with SSDs but 20 TB of SSD would cost WAY to much.
i dont know how most people are storing their plots but my linux based storage can take about 100 mb/s from a plotting node over network from up to 8 nodes simultanously.
if someone runs a single large 4 tb usb3 disk it should be filled similar fast within 12 hours if plot content is supplied in time.

the main question for me is why everyone expects a mining preperation process to be fast and simple initiated by a clicking solution?
burst is not a clonecoin which disappears a few weeks after it has been released.
i understand that many people are focused on windows and have read a linux version is twice as fast.
even if you generate the plots faster you have the same mining result after the plots have been created.
the mining itself has the same speed. we speak only about a few days time difference that it takes to fillup a large storage device if you dont have linux skills.
look at it like you have a open preorder for a asic miner which already partially mines for you  Tongue

the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.

if a c based miner has options to configure threads with options for serial and parallel io on the filesystem you may use windows based systems to run multi terrabyte usb3 based mining farms if you want to and have the skills for it.
i still do this on linux without having any os related issues.

the question is why you would invest resources into the development of a technology which already exists and is free.
windows comes only in place when you speak about the masses who have one or two tb free harddrive space and want to do something with it. these people need a one-click solution with visual guis and graphical feedback that their miner does something.

whoever wants to invest money to gain money out of it has at the moment only one option.
to learn how to do it or pay someone to do it.
okay, also one may simply buy mined coins. they are still affordable (if someone reads this a few month: today you could buy almost 250k for less than 300 satoshi each!).
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.

Im at 8 TB. Nothing in 24 hours.

I would say 10 TB or more

Just hit a block. 8TB took 22 hours
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.

Im at 8 TB. Nothing in 24 hours.

I would say 10 TB or more

More likely, I haven't got anything for 48 hours with ~3tb. Hope the v2 pool comes out today.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.

Im at 8 TB. Nothing in 24 hours.

I would say 10 TB or more
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?
hero member
Activity: 649
Merit: 505
dcct you are the man keep up the good work and thank you  for your efforts as soon as i will find my first block it will be yours Smiley ps : you got pm !
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
I'm trying to be less of an a$$hole, but damn, the people here piss me off so much, what with Linux-only crap and releasing half-assed miners that you have to be a damn coding engineer to finish and get mining for you.


I can literally code nothing in C or Java and I was mining within 10 minutes after launch, and had the pool miner up and running in a few minutes too. A small amount of reading and effort and you'd have no troubles.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
I'm trying to be less of an a$$hole, but damn, the people here piss me off so much, what with Linux-only crap and releasing half-assed miners that you have to be a damn coding engineer to finish and get mining for you.

Want to code somwething useful?  Code a program that will use GPUs to do the plotting.  I have a couple 280X's sitting around doing nothing.

I have 4 laptop drives spanned into a 605 GB volume, with a 1 to 2457300 plot size.  The AMD FX-4130 3.8 GHZ cpu took 2-1/2 days to plot that, it just finished this morning. Now it's mining for me solo.

I will join a pool once V2 comes out, I am trying to find cheap deals on hard drives right now.  I know a place that sells hard drives, I was trying to talk them into taking a 1 ounce gold bar I have in exchange for drives, but they stubbornly want cash or credit card only.  

Im glad your trying harder. It will get you a ton more help from the community.

I am 99% sure someone is working on windows implemenattions. You just have to be patient.

One thing you should realize is that the harder it is to setup the harder it is for the masses to mine and the better it is for you if you get it right. You will get far more coins that way.

We are here to help you. So if you ask nicely I am sure we can get things sorted out.

BTW your GPU's may never help write plots. Disk speeds are limited and just because a GPU can write the data really fast doesn't mean the disks can keep up.

Maybe with SSDs but 20 TB of SSD would cost WAY to much......... (for now)
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Want to code somwething useful?  Code a program that will use GPUs to do the plotting.  I have a couple 280X's sitting around doing nothing.

You got the job.
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