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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 122. (Read 1151252 times)

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Are there any predictions for CLAM? I found a site saying short term 0.0032

What do you guys think?
If I check the 1 month graph, this sounds reasonable for me
legendary
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How to download the blockchain quickly? Stuck at 3 years...

Did you tried using dooglus' bootstrap?


Problems Getting Sync'd with the Network?

The following file may be placed in the data direcrory.  Then, simply restart the client:

dooglus' Bootstrap:
Bootstrap Post


 I heard from other people that used this method, it will speed up the process, but still it will take some time to sync. dunno how updated the bootstrap.dat is because I asked someone about the blockchain size file and he seems to be stuck in the same point as you.

I get an error when trying to import the bootstrap  Undecided

Also, I now have my old private keys. How do I convert them in way as to be able to import into the clam wallet? They are not in .dat just straight up text.
legendary
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dunno how updated the bootstrap.dat is because I asked someone about the blockchain size file and he seems to be stuck in the same point as you.

I just updated it.

Now: It goes up to block 1539700 which was staked on Sun Jun  4 01:40:32 UTC 2017.
legendary
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How many coins will I receive from 10,000 coins  POS

I hope that this calculation is correct - this is how I calculate it for myself

$ ./clamd getstakinginfo
{
  ...
    "netstakeweight" : 656459.47131637,
}

Basicly the netstakeweight is the amout of the currently stacking coins

Formula YourCoins/netstakeweight*CoinsStakedPerDay = 10000/656459.47131637*24*60 ~= 21.93 clams per day

But it depend on many factors - Luck / how much is your coins split / ...

Looks good, but note that the 'netstakeweight' goes up and down a lot as the difficulty adjusts. You should sample it every hour for a day to see what's a good average level.
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Here we go!!
How to download the blockchain quickly? Stuck at 3 years...

Did you tried using dooglus' bootstrap?


Problems Getting Sync'd with the Network?

The following file may be placed in the data direcrory.  Then, simply restart the client:

dooglus' Bootstrap:
Bootstrap Post


 I heard from other people that used this method, it will speed up the process, but still it will take some time to sync. dunno how updated the bootstrap.dat is because I asked someone about the blockchain size file and he seems to be stuck in the same point as you.
legendary
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How to download the blockchain quickly? Stuck at 3 years...
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How many coins will I receive from 10,000 coins  POS

I hope that this calculation is correct - this is how I calculate it for myself

$ ./clamd getstakinginfo
{
  ...
    "netstakeweight" : 656459.47131637,
}

Basicly the netstakeweight is the amout of the currently stacking coins

Formula YourCoins/netstakeweight*CoinsStakedPerDay = 10000/656459.47131637*24*60 ~= 21.93 clams per day

But it depend on many factors - Luck / how much is your coins split / ...
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Here we go!!
Some lightweight purses for clam like electrum?

 As far I know there is no lightweight wallet for Clam, in the github I saw that someone was asking for a Electrum server for clam and they did some testing trying to create one but it seems like is not in the way to be implemented.

How many coins will I receive from 10,000 coins  POS

Depend on multiple factors, someone can come and tell you x amount, but to calculate it properly you need to know if you are solo or pool staking, how many clams are staking at the same time as yours, how properly you is your ClamClient configured to stake efficiently if you're solo staking also if you let your ClamClient stake all the time 24/7 or partially.

Also, will I be able to import my "root key" as generated by Armory into the Clam wallet to redeem clams?

I don't use Armory but since the "root key" seems to be very specific for the Armory Wallet client and you will need to decrypt the wallet so the ClamClient can import it (not sure of that part), if you don't have lots of address you can try to export your private keys, i think that will give you a format that will be more ease for the ClamClient to import and redeem your Clams.

Here you can check 2 links if you want read more about you can do that.
how to obtain the private key of an armory wallet
a post here in bitcointalk about how can obtain your private keys

How about this to see if it's worth spending any further time on CLAMs: ....

I was being a little facetious here, but after further thought, I believe you could actually dig your CLAMs. Create a raw transaction (on your air gapped, non internet computer) which sends your 'dug' CLAMs to a new address, then you transmit the transaction (which contains only public info that's going to go into the blockchain) on an internet connected machine.

 I don't know if you are talking to me or to the OP, but we discussed previously about the "airgapped" offline system and with dooglus we confirmed that was viable to do it that way, similar to your explanation , in the case of the OP this only have few workarounds if you don't want to use the ClamClient or anyone else service, check the code by yourself, trust code provided or forget about claiming your Clams. anyways thanks for your thoughts.
legendary
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How about this to see if it's worth spending any further time on CLAMs:

1. Sync the CLAM client on an internet connected computer which doesn't contain your private keys. This can be done within a VM, or a fresh OS install, or even a remote VPS.

2. Copy, via sneakernet, the client executable and blockchain data to a NON internet connected computer. Start client. Import wallet.dat, or individual private keys.

3. If balance is zero, stop here.

I was being a little facetious here, but after further thought, I believe you could actually dig your CLAMs. Create a raw transaction (on your air gapped, non internet computer) which sends your 'dug' CLAMs to a new address, then you transmit the transaction (which contains only public info that's going to go into the blockchain) on an internet connected machine.
legendary
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How large is the clam blockhain size?

Based on my client: about 1.5GB to download a bootstrap, 3GB to store the chain on disk.
legendary
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How large is the clam blockhain size?

Also, will I be able to import my "root key" as generated by Armory into the Clam wallet to redeem clams?
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How many coins will I receive from 10,000 coins  POS
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Some lightweight purses for clam like electrum?
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Here we go!!
Yes, but there are more coins with these features. What it's the pipeline in terms of development? Like if you don't stake, what makes Clam worth holding compared to other coins? I am seriously interested in hearing people's opinions. I can't find a lot on the site.

 There are some key features that I can point out, First like BayAreaCoins said the method of distribution of Clam, it implemented a method to give out the coins in a way that it can reach most crypto currencies users in a set of very popular (at the time that was take the snapshot) crypto currencies, some can say things like "litecoin sucks" or "doge is joke" but those crypto currencies were chosen because they have some good amount of user that at least tested their waters.

 The method is so unique in his kind, that can literally only be done once if it works or at least will need to use the same point as the Clamcoin's blockchain snapshot or prior to avoid gaming in the distribution. Some people can argue that it benefit one more than others, but in general it try to give equal chances to everyone in the distribution, I mean each fund address give equal to everybody, no matter if you have less than 1 btc or have a lot more, you'll get 4.60 per funded address, well people more involved in crypto can usually have more addresses like BTC, LTC or Doge that's how thing goes, some people with "bad practices" like not implemented cold storage can had a disruptive advantage, Clam tries to find the most fair distribution method, no a perfect one.

 Contrary to BTC the Proof-of-stake imply that Clam users doesn't need to invest in mining equipment in order to get a share of the staking process, that is a good concern because don't imply equipment that will become obsolete and not able to find another purpose for they and are expensive and waste much electricity, also are hard to setup for the average user.

 The coin is deflationary but only by the amount of blocks produced per day at a reason of 1 Clam per staked block contrary to BTC, this promote that users protect the network by staking and receive in exchange a share that in the least case (of staking constantly) is enough to absorb the inflation dilution or in the case of less people staking, gives profit by interest gain. Also depending the point of view, the stake can protect early adopters against the inclusion of new undug Clams in the money supply, I mean there is gonna be dilution but those Clams that have been staking will have an advantage against those recently dug.

 In the development part you can find features like the ClamSpeech (that I don't understand well), I think it has a notarization feature, but a feature that was somehow hard to implement because they were trying to find consensus about how to do it was the the Clamour a kind of consensus tool to make development more decentralized. I'm sure that if you explore what the Clamour is and how it work you can see what others proposals are in the way to be add to the coin and what type of acceptance it has. Also if you have the knowledge you can check the clam github and see how the code goes and i think it also has a place for people check "issues".

 There must be some other things that i must be forgotten, like proposals for dynamic fees, no related to the coin directly like loaning Clams for margin trade in site poloniex but this should give you some ideas.
legendary
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I must clarify that I don't have any reasons to doubt about Clamclient's source code, It have been reviewed by dooglus and many others in the community and has enough time around for someone to point anything that doesn't looks right, anyone that has the ability can review it.

I would also point out that I have claimed CLAMs from some old very well funded Bitcoin addresses without moving the bitcoins out of them first, and the coins were never stolen from those addresses.

I couldn't be more confident that CLAM isn't a scam intended to steal Bitcoin private keys.
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Hi CLAMs community. I am new to CLAMs and trying to understand this coin and it's (future) value. Could someone explain me (and other CLAMs newbies reading this) why people should own this coin? What make CLAMs for example unique to DeCred or BTC itself. What does the near development future look like? Hope to read some interesting views. Thanks!

It's the Clamunity that makes us special, the distribution and the fact that coins mine coins.

Yes, but there are more coins with these features. What it's the pipeline in terms of development? Like if you don't stake, what makes Clam worth holding compared to other coins? I am seriously interested in hearing people's opinions. I can't find a lot on the site.
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I tried the bootstrap.dat file and on Mac OS/X version it doesn't detect it at all. I think the Mac version is broken, due to the blockchain just stays and not download. Has anyone build a new version yet?




Does anyone have a working blockchain its not updating at all.?

I have the Mac for Claims but the blockchain isn't working.


Did you tried using dooglus' bootstrap? and btw it's Clam not Claims  Wink


Problems Getting Sync'd with the Network?

The following file may be placed in the data direcrory.  Then, simply restart the client:

dooglus' Bootstrap:
Bootstrap Post


 I don't use Mac so I don't have any idea or found references if it works for Mac ClamClient. good luck
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Here we go!!

Does anyone have a working blockchain its not updating at all.?

I have the Mac for Claims but the blockchain isn't working.


Did you tried using dooglus' bootstrap? and btw it's Clam not Claims  Wink


Problems Getting Sync'd with the Network?

The following file may be placed in the data direcrory.  Then, simply restart the client:

dooglus' Bootstrap:
Bootstrap Post


 I don't use Mac so I don't have any idea or found references if it works for Mac ClamClient. good luck
newbie
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Does anyone have a working blockchain its not updating at all.?

I have the Mac for Claims but the blockchain isn't working.

Sad

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