[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 157.

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Quote from: dooglus on August 02, 2016, 03:51:50 PM

Quote from: jordixal on August 02, 2016, 10:49:12 AM

Hi dooglus, how did you made outputs of 100 CLAMS and also how did you split them once they stake? Is there any instructions to put in conf file or so?

To make the outputs I did something like:

$ clamd sendtoaddress '{"amount":100,"count":50}'

And to auto split on stake, I put this in my clam.conf:

splitsize=25
combinelimit=50

Thanks for yout reply, so in clam.conf splitsize line is for splitting clams when they stake in outputs of 25 each, and combinelimit is used for always having inputs between 25-50 clams in the wallet right?

Also 25/50 ratio is good enough to any clam holdings in a wallet?

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Quote from: dooglus on August 02, 2016, 03:49:20 PM

Quote from: zazarb on August 01, 2016, 03:48:30 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 01, 2016, 03:14:40 PM

Quote from: wttbs on August 01, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.

I also stake in just -dice, but by my calculations(since 11th July),
only each ~1170 clams stakes 1 per day (including bankroll profit).
~7% too high uncertainty ?

Oh, well Just-Dice takes a 10% fee from staking rewards. So each 1090 will get you 0.9 per day, and to get 1 per day you'll need 1090 / 0.9 ~= 1211

it seems I was not noticed this point :)I imagined that the fee is the same 1% as of the wagered amount.
good

that jd make profits from my investment also, Glad to hear that it is of mutual benefit.

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Quote from: dooglus on August 02, 2016, 03:52:48 PM

Quote from: coinvault.io on August 02, 2016, 12:09:04 PM

Hi clams community,
We'd like to add clams to https://www.coinvault.io

Is there any interest from the clams community in using coinvault.io?

Is it a web wallet? Do you stake the coins on deposit? Do you share the stake rewards with the depositors? Do you take a fee?

Hi,
Yes CoinVault is a hybrid web wallet, meaning we don't have access to private keys.
For that reason CoinVault can not stake coins (a staking client needs to sign the spent outputs).
Centralised staking is far less secure in that sense as private keys need to be owned (by the wallet) and in a pool with other users keys (unless you have a staking node per user), on top of that, one of the incentives for staking is to keep nodes running the network (right?).

However CoinVault supports BIP39 (mnmonic phrases) so users can easily export private keys from CoinVault (or to CoinVault) and have them staking on a their own client (or on a staking pool).

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Quote from: coinvault.io on August 02, 2016, 12:09:04 PM

Hi clams community,
We'd like to add clams to https://www.coinvault.io

Is there any interest from the clams community in using coinvault.io?

Is it a web wallet? Do you stake the coins on deposit? Do you share the stake rewards with the depositors? Do you take a fee?

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Quote from: jordixal on August 02, 2016, 10:49:12 AM

Hi dooglus, how did you made outputs of 100 CLAMS and also how did you split them once they stake? Is there any instructions to put in conf file or so?

To make the outputs I did something like:

$ clamd sendtoaddress '{"amount":100,"count":50}'

And to auto split on stake, I put this in my clam.conf:

splitsize=25
combinelimit=50

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Quote from: zazarb on August 01, 2016, 03:48:30 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 01, 2016, 03:14:40 PM

Quote from: wttbs on August 01, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.

I also stake in just -dice, but by my calculations(since 11th July),
only each ~1170 clams stakes 1 per day (including bankroll profit).
~7% too high uncertainty ?

Oh, well Just-Dice takes a 10% fee from staking rewards. So each 1090 will get you 0.9 per day, and to get 1 per day you'll need 1090 / 0.9 ~= 1211

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Hi clams community,
We'd like to add clams to https://www.coinvault.io

Is there any interest from the clams community in using coinvault.io?

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Quote from: dooglus on July 01, 2016, 12:14:36 AM

Quote from: tryphe on June 29, 2016, 05:18:41 PM

Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

Since I made the new Just-Dice staking wallet I've been watching to see how it performs, staking wise.

I found there's huge variance. I made around 13000 outputs of size 100 CLAMs, and set them to split into 25 CLAM outputs when they stake.

Some outputs have staked incredibly well. This one staked 5 times in 8 days, despite only being worth 26 to 30 CLAMs for most of that time:

Quote

84d121 -> 100 CLAM 1044120 (2016-06-21 22:14:24)
cbdfb7 100 -> 26 CLAM 1045413 (2016-06-22 18:53:20)
a799ea 26 -> 27 CLAM 1050053 (2016-06-26 00:42:40)
c6709f 27 -> 28 CLAM 1050991 (2016-06-26 16:32:00)
00d648 28 -> 29 CLAM 1052089 (2016-06-27 11:02:40)
e58636 29 -> 30 CLAM 1054628 (2016-06-29 05:42:24)

Whereas none of the 146 inputs to 462d2e worth a total of 14600 CLAMs staked at all in 9 days. I sent them all back to the hot wallet to top it up after a few large withdrawals.

Hi dooglus, how did you made outputs of 100 CLAMS and also how did you split them once they stake? Is there any instructions to put in conf file or so?

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Quote from: dooglus on August 01, 2016, 03:14:40 PM

Quote from: wttbs on August 01, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.

I also stake in just -dice, but by my calculations(since 11th July),
only each ~1170 clams stakes 1 per day (including bankroll profit).
~7% too high uncertainty ?

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Quote from: wttbs on August 01, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.

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Quote from: wttbs on August 01, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

Quote from: Tanglemymind on August 01, 2016, 02:08:26 PM

2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

Thxs

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

2. what do you mean by "utility" ?

Thanks for the staking results.

Utility meaning what use does the clam blockchain have?

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Quote from: Tanglemymind on August 01, 2016, 02:08:26 PM

2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

Thxs

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

2. what do you mean by "utility" ?

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2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

Thxs

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Quote from: bittawm on July 31, 2016, 01:22:18 PM

hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers

You should email them and nicely explain there is more value attached to your private key that they held and you'd like to withdraw.

Maybe even offer them 10%...

It's worth asking.

Alternatively:

All they have to do is sign a key with the address that has CLAMS in order to begin staking them as I understand!

Their pool could earn more for miners and places like Dragon Tales could pretty much decentralize Clamcoin over night.

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Quote from: andulolika on July 31, 2016, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: bittawm on July 31, 2016, 01:22:18 PM

hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers

You never owed the address, they were holding your money to you, but if you can convince them of giving you the private keys good luck, I tried contacting gox, lol.

so some of these guys have thousands of addresses at 4.6 clams each...?

wow...good on them i guess haha

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Quote from: dooglus on July 22, 2016, 11:15:53 AM

Quote from: whenwhatwherewhyhow on July 22, 2016, 09:28:19 AM

What is the max supply cap of CLAMS?

There's one born every minute. What's the max supply cap of minutes?

Also, khashier.com seems to be down.

xploited?

Maybe the community should be a bit clearer about it. Clam has no supply cap right ? Like DOGE or ETH.

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Quote from: bittawm on July 31, 2016, 01:22:18 PM

hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers

You never owed the address, they were holding your money to you, but if you can convince them of giving you the private keys good luck, I tried contacting gox, lol.

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hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers

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