[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 159.

rocoro

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Quote from: marilyn4325 on July 04, 2016, 07:04:47 AM

Needs more features, like the ability to create your own coin ( https://www.ethereum.org/token the site is a bit outdated, it is possible with a mouse click in the latest GUI) and of course, smart contracts.

Too much bloat, a currency should just be a currency. And we don't need everyone making "teletubby" / chucky cheese coins, tokens.

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Quote from: jpcfan on July 04, 2016, 06:38:37 AM

Quote from: IXC2XIC on June 26, 2016, 05:22:39 AM

Can't believe a coin called Clams held it together this long.

clam will be the next ETH

Needs more features, like the ability to create your own coin ( https://www.ethereum.org/token the site is a bit outdated, it is possible with a mouse click in the latest GUI) and of course, smart contracts.

jpcfan

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I miss dooglus

JD site is down. please call 911 and fix ASAP please

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Quote from: IXC2XIC on June 26, 2016, 05:22:39 AM

Can't believe a coin called Clams held it together this long.

clam will be the next ETH

presstab

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Quote from: rocoro on July 01, 2016, 08:48:55 PM

Quote from: dooglus on July 01, 2016, 12:14:36 AM

Quote from: tryphe on June 29, 2016, 05:18:41 PM

Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

I've noticed when staking, some days in a row I get none. Other days I get more, and seems to make up for the days I got none.

I think its just variance.

I always think of long term staking in terms of the law of large numbers.

rocoro

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Quote from: dooglus on July 01, 2016, 12:14:36 AM

Quote from: tryphe on June 29, 2016, 05:18:41 PM

Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

I've noticed when staking, some days in a row I get none. Other days I get more, and seems to make up for the days I got none.

I think its just variance.

presstab

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Quote from: dooglus on June 21, 2016, 04:29:53 PM

I remember last time the chart looked similarly weird, and presstab commented saying he should fix it.

Alright alright, enough reminders finally prompted me to patch that up for you.

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Quote from: dooglus on July 01, 2016, 12:14:36 AM

Quote from: tryphe on June 29, 2016, 05:18:41 PM

Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

Since I made the new Just-Dice staking wallet I've been watching to see how it performs, staking wise.

I found there's huge variance. I made around 13000 outputs of size 100 CLAMs, and set them to split into 25 CLAM outputs when they stake.

Some outputs have staked incredibly well. This one staked 5 times in 8 days, despite only being worth 26 to 30 CLAMs for most of that time:

Quote

84d121 -> 100 CLAM 1044120 (2016-06-21 22:14:24)
cbdfb7 100 -> 26 CLAM 1045413 (2016-06-22 18:53:20)
a799ea 26 -> 27 CLAM 1050053 (2016-06-26 00:42:40)
c6709f 27 -> 28 CLAM 1050991 (2016-06-26 16:32:00)
00d648 28 -> 29 CLAM 1052089 (2016-06-27 11:02:40)
e58636 29 -> 30 CLAM 1054628 (2016-06-29 05:42:24)

Whereas none of the 146 inputs to 462d2e worth a total of 14600 CLAMs staked at all in 9 days. I sent them all back to the hot wallet to top it up after a few large withdrawals.

Could it be the lottery all over again with developers gaming the system?

Seems strange and a possible red flag again.

dooglus

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Quote from: tryphe on June 29, 2016, 05:18:41 PM

Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

Since I made the new Just-Dice staking wallet I've been watching to see how it performs, staking wise.

I found there's huge variance. I made around 13000 outputs of size 100 CLAMs, and set them to split into 25 CLAM outputs when they stake.

Some outputs have staked incredibly well. This one staked 5 times in 8 days, despite only being worth 26 to 30 CLAMs for most of that time:

Quote

84d121 -> 100 CLAM 1044120 (2016-06-21 22:14:24)
cbdfb7 100 -> 26 CLAM 1045413 (2016-06-22 18:53:20)
a799ea 26 -> 27 CLAM 1050053 (2016-06-26 00:42:40)
c6709f 27 -> 28 CLAM 1050991 (2016-06-26 16:32:00)
00d648 28 -> 29 CLAM 1052089 (2016-06-27 11:02:40)
e58636 29 -> 30 CLAM 1054628 (2016-06-29 05:42:24)

Whereas none of the 146 inputs to 462d2e worth a total of 14600 CLAMs staked at all in 9 days. I sent them all back to the hot wallet to top it up after a few large withdrawals.

tryphe

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Long Live the Great Clam.

tspacepilot

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Quote from: IXC2XIC on June 26, 2016, 05:22:39 AM

Can't believe a coin called Clams held it together this long.

The name is goofy. just-dice.com is a powerhouse. You could probably call it just-diceCOIN and we'd still know what you were talking about.

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Can't believe a coin called Clams held it together this long.

dooglus

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Quote from: pogress on June 24, 2016, 10:29:06 AM

The cause is the same - too big size of a wallet ? Any plan to solve this issue in future before it actually happens next time ? I know it dont cost too much as just dice is dominant staker with above 80%, but still...

What issue are you talking about? I don't think I understand you. What might actually happen next time?

Edit: sorry, I didn't notice you had quoted me. The problem is I'm not able to reproduce the problem easily. When staking is going slow I'm in a hurry to fix the problem, but then it's hard to reproduce it to debug it. I guess I need to do the work on a testnet or a disconnected rolled-back fork of the main chain.

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Quote from: dooglus on June 21, 2016, 04:29:53 PM

A few months ago I noticed that the Just-Dice staking wallet was performing very poorly, spending long periods stuck waiting for the hard drive. My 'fix' was to move all the staking coins to a new address in a new wallet.

That worked, until now...

It's happening again, and so I'm 'fixing' it the same way.

The cause is the same - too big size of a wallet ? Any plan to solve this issue in future before it actually happens next time ? I know it dont cost too much as just dice is dominant staker with above 80%, but still...

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Quote from: NUFCrichard on June 23, 2016, 08:32:56 AM

I find the recent price fall more worrying that the previous 'big digger' price fall.
This time there is no real reason for the fall, other than that people divesting. I have a bit of a safe haven theory, which would have CLAMs rising now that Bitcoin and the new alts are starting to fall, we will see but I think CLAM should get back to at least 0.002 in the near future, if only because there is no reason why it fell from 0.002 a few weeks ago!!

As it was mentioned in past by others diggers may come when price is higher so it would be worth to move the coins.

nubbins7

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Hi folks i just started syncing the CLAM wallet a few hours ago but seems to be syncing slow
is there anything i can do to speed it up some? thanks in advance

Edit: Found BootStrap info on the first page.

NUFCrichard

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I find the recent price fall more worrying that the previous 'big digger' price fall.
This time there is no real reason for the fall, other than that people divesting. I have a bit of a safe haven theory, which would have CLAMs rising now that Bitcoin and the new alts are starting to fall, we will see but I think CLAM should get back to at least 0.002 in the near future, if only because there is no reason why it fell from 0.002 a few weeks ago!!

smooth

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Quote from: rocoro on June 21, 2016, 02:19:20 PM

Quote from: smooth on June 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

The last "big dig" was after the large price increase.

So, a slow, gradual increase in price would be best. I would think.

(Theory being that over time, maybe some 'would be' diggers would just completely forget about clam altogether.)

That's harder to predict. As the price reaches new highs more people who previous didn't care are motivated to dig. If this is a diverse group of people then a slow rise would likely lead to steady digging. But there can be potential "big digs" where one person makes a decision to empty a huge wallet or a set of wallets. There is no way to know when any particular person might be motivated.

The other thing that happens is the supply naturally increases over time due to staking. So the later a dig occurs, the smaller it is in relative terms. In effect there is already a slow expiration of digging built into the current rules.

dooglus

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A few months ago I noticed that the Just-Dice staking wallet was performing very poorly, spending long periods stuck waiting for the hard drive. My 'fix' was to move all the staking coins to a new address in a new wallet.

That worked, until now...

It's happening again, and so I'm 'fixing' it the same way.

Here's the new address:

I remember last time the chart looked similarly weird, and presstab commented saying he should fix it.

Just-Dice won't be staking much for the next 4 hours while the coins settle in at their new address, so the difficulty should drop significantly. Easy staking for everyone else - enjoy!

Edit: it looks like the last time it happened was back at the start of April:

Edit: here's a close-up of the last few days. It looks like the staking wallet has been performing poorly since late Saturday, causing the difficulty to halve. The sheer drop at the end is a result of me moving the coins to a new address. It will take 4 hours until those coins start staking again. The move started at 9pm UTC, so JD will start trying to stake again around 1am UTC, or 6pm Pacific, or in about an hour and a half from the date of this edit...

Edit2: back to normal:

rocoro

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Quote from: smooth on June 20, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

The last "big dig" was after the large price increase.

So, a slow, gradual increase in price would be best. I would think.

(Theory being that over time, maybe some 'would be' diggers would just completely forget about clam altogether.)

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