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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 423. (Read 1151252 times)

legendary
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Ok it is a lot of unclaimed coins. How many coins have been claimed on just-dice so far dooglus?

I made the decision not to log anything about coin claiming. It involves people providing their private key, so I just sign and broadcast the raw transaction and forget about it.

So I don't know.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1092
Re: problems with forks

I've just noticed that the latest version of the client seems to have stopped logging getblocks requests. The last log entry was just before I upgraded.

But my client is apparently still being banged by older clients who repeatedly request the same blocks. I can see it by dumping traffic on the network interface.

My outbound is currently clogged with traffic on port 31174.

Is this the "fix" for older clients harassing those on a newer fork, simply hiding getblocks requests from the logs? It actually makes it harder to block the rogue clients. Undecided

At this rate I'm going to have to become a leaf node, and just make an outbound connect to a couple of known/trusted nodes.
legendary
Activity: 1007
Merit: 1000
The site reads : -Proof-Of-Stake reward is designed to replace coins lost, unclaimed or inaccessible over time. The block reward of 1 CLAM means that 526,000 new CLAMs are created each year. The annual rate of return varies in relation to the current active money supply. Accordingly, the present annual rate of return is 234%, and the daily return is 0.64%-

How the new coins are given and who get them?

If I have coins on just-dice (not invested) do I get a reward? I think dooglus said no, it will be given to investors
If I have coins on an exchange, do I get CLAM for the block reward?

If I have 1000CLAM and there are 1,000,000CLAM do I get 0.001CLAM each block or do I have 1/1000 chance of getting one each block?
If it is the former when are the CLAM delivered to my wallet?

EDIT :

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Sorry for being a noob but it seems to me some addresses I used were not empty: may you please check if I'm correct?


here are just some of them:
17hGb6CfGqXp9FpCXtrcR2Y16dX3UmBVFk
1AFizN1hhGtfG2eAdxVXW8xGodcJhHHaCv
12wU1fGk3CAbhtQRvrB1Xeb11TeHCyCBFp

All 3 addresses have CLAMS according to just-dice.com /dig ADRESS
You can get the CLAM easily on just-dice, look at the FAQ, don't forget to empty the addresses before, just to be safe.

PoS is based on when you stake a block. To give an easy example:

Let's say you have 100 coins. APR is 365% (interest rate).
You will get about 1 coin per day. This doesn't mean that you get it every day, but let's say that it took a week to stake a block. Your reward would be 7. If it took you 60 days, the reward would be 60.

The theory is that this works out to give the proper interest rate -- you just never know when it's going to hit. So you could also stake a block in half a day and get a 0.5 reward.

What's important to understand here, though, is that the earlier you stake, the more you earn due to compounding. Using the above example:

In half a year, you stake a block. You have 150 that are now staking interest.
In a day you stake a block. You now have 151 that are staking interest.

Just to clear up any inaccuracy's.  

Let's say you have 100 coins. APR is 365% (interest rate).
You will get about 1 coin per day. This doesn't mean that you get it every day, but let's say that it took a week to stake a block. Your reward would be 7. If it took you 60 days, the reward would be 60

   Your descriptions is true for normal interest based POS coins.  Clams are different.  Stakes are always 1 clam per block(plus any transaction fees for the block).  Staking is based on the combined total of all coins in the wallet.  Not just the coins in each staking pile.  

   So for the example of 100 coins.  You should stake approximately once per day.  but you might stake 2 times or you might not stake at all.  If it takes you 10 days to stake you still will only get 1 clam.   Nothing is compounding.  The new clams, once matured will add to your over all stake weight.   The reason people talk about using coin control and dividing up the clams into smaller piles has to do with coins maturing.  Once you stake the coins have to mature for 510 confirms or 4 hours which ever is longer.  If you divide your coins you only have a small pile maturing and the rest can continue to stake.    
hero member
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^ I'm assuming that's exactly what will happen. With smaller exchanges already most likely, don't think Coinbase would mess with it unless it started getting pretty big. If there's not a list of all addresses that received it, there definitely wouldn't even be a chance of proving it.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Just came here after seeing the "new" Just-Dice. Not sure what to think about it yet, will have to read more but have to post here to remind myself. Will also be checking price changes.

If I have clams associated with a Coinbase address, there's no way to obtain it, since Coinbase controls the private keys, right?

The first thing I thought of when I read about their "fair" distribution- I wonder how many exchanges are holding with each account unique deposit addresses and whatnot...    Unless somebody thought of that and could go around it, but that would have to be extensive research.

I have the same issue. I was mostly using Coinbase back then, and had many active addresses. Dont think there's any real way to handle ownership though. Wouldnt it be messed up if Coinbase claimed all the coins in our accounts...
legendary
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Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
Just came here after seeing the "new" Just-Dice. Not sure what to think about it yet, will have to read more but have to post here to remind myself. Will also be checking price changes.

If I have clams associated with a Coinbase address, there's no way to obtain it, since Coinbase controls the private keys, right?

The first thing I thought of when I read about their "fair" distribution- I wonder how many exchanges are holding with each account unique deposit addresses and whatnot...    Unless somebody thought of that and could go around it, but that would have to be extensive research.

Everyone knows all the exchanges are owned by miners.

This just skips all the bullshit and pays them off to start with.

It is up to them how they use the payoff.

Time will tell.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 530
$5 24k Gold FREE 4 sign-up! Mene.com/invite/h5ZRRP
Just came here after seeing the "new" Just-Dice. Not sure what to think about it yet, will have to read more but have to post here to remind myself. Will also be checking price changes.

If I have clams associated with a Coinbase address, there's no way to obtain it, since Coinbase controls the private keys, right?

The first thing I thought of when I read about their "fair" distribution- I wonder how many exchanges are holding with each account unique deposit addresses and whatnot...    Unless somebody thought of that and could go around it, but that would have to be extensive research.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
If I have clams associated with a Coinbase address, there's no way to obtain it, since Coinbase controls the private keys, right?
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 252
CLAM Dev
How to import the wallet.dat if its encrypted ?

Like you would an non encrypted wallet.  The import dialogue will ask you for the password but your clam wallet needs to be either unlocked, or have no encryption.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
The site reads : -Proof-Of-Stake reward is designed to replace coins lost, unclaimed or inaccessible over time. The block reward of 1 CLAM means that 526,000 new CLAMs are created each year. The annual rate of return varies in relation to the current active money supply. Accordingly, the present annual rate of return is 234%, and the daily return is 0.64%-

How the new coins are given and who get them?

If I have coins on just-dice (not invested) do I get a reward? I think dooglus said no, it will be given to investors
If I have coins on an exchange, do I get CLAM for the block reward?

If I have 1000CLAM and there are 1,000,000CLAM do I get 0.001CLAM each block or do I have 1/1000 chance of getting one each block?
If it is the former when are the CLAM delivered to my wallet?

EDIT :

Quote
Sorry for being a noob but it seems to me some addresses I used were not empty: may you please check if I'm correct?


here are just some of them:
17hGb6CfGqXp9FpCXtrcR2Y16dX3UmBVFk
1AFizN1hhGtfG2eAdxVXW8xGodcJhHHaCv
12wU1fGk3CAbhtQRvrB1Xeb11TeHCyCBFp

All 3 addresses have CLAMS according to just-dice.com /dig ADRESS
You can get the CLAM easily on just-dice, look at the FAQ, don't forget to empty the addresses before, just to be safe.

PoS is based on when you stake a block. To give an easy example:

Let's say you have 100 coins. APR is 365% (interest rate).
You will get about 1 coin per day. This doesn't mean that you get it every day, but let's say that it took a week to stake a block. Your reward would be 7. If it took you 60 days, the reward would be 60.

The theory is that this works out to give the proper interest rate -- you just never know when it's going to hit. So you could also stake a block in half a day and get a 0.5 reward.

What's important to understand here, though, is that the earlier you stake, the more you earn due to compounding. Using the above example:

In half a year, you stake a block. You have 150 that are now staking interest.
In a day you stake a block. You now have 151 that are staking interest.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1042
www.explorerz.top
okay, wallet up to date but if i try to import a wallet i get an error saying:

CDB : Error 2, can't open database (code -1)

had this before but can't remember how i solved it
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
The site reads : -Proof-Of-Stake reward is designed to replace coins lost, unclaimed or inaccessible over time. The block reward of 1 CLAM means that 526,000 new CLAMs are created each year. The annual rate of return varies in relation to the current active money supply. Accordingly, the present annual rate of return is 234%, and the daily return is 0.64%-

How the new coins are given and who get them?

If I have coins on just-dice (not invested) do I get a reward? I think dooglus said no, it will be given to investors
If I have coins on an exchange, do I get CLAM for the block reward?

If I have 1000CLAM and there are 1,000,000CLAM do I get 0.001CLAM each block or do I have 1/1000 chance of getting one each block?
If it is the former when are the CLAM delivered to my wallet?

EDIT :

Quote
Sorry for being a noob but it seems to me some addresses I used were not empty: may you please check if I'm correct?


here are just some of them:
17hGb6CfGqXp9FpCXtrcR2Y16dX3UmBVFk
1AFizN1hhGtfG2eAdxVXW8xGodcJhHHaCv
12wU1fGk3CAbhtQRvrB1Xeb11TeHCyCBFp

All 3 addresses have CLAMS according to just-dice.com /dig ADRESS
You can get the CLAM easily on just-dice, look at the FAQ, don't forget to empty the addresses before, just to be safe.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Kept on personal observation
Just-Dice effect haha
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1042
www.explorerz.top
okay did the thing with the bootstrap file, not it goes faster. up to 16 weeks behind from my last post till now. sweet
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Is it normal for the wallet to sync as slow as it does on my pc?

Been syncing since this morning and still at 27 weeks behind.

I added conf from op.

same here. 27 weeks behind ~18h ago, now 18 weeks. added nodes from op also
same here
full member
Activity: 204
Merit: 100
Is it normal for the wallet to sync as slow as it does on my pc?

Been syncing since this morning and still at 27 weeks behind.

I added conf from op.

same here. 27 weeks behind ~18h ago, now 18 weeks. added nodes from op also

is also
I restarted periodically wallet
  large reverse traffic
blocking download after 5 ... 10 external of connections.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1042
www.explorerz.top
Is it normal for the wallet to sync as slow as it does on my pc?

Been syncing since this morning and still at 27 weeks behind.

I added conf from op.

same here. 27 weeks behind ~18h ago, now 18 weeks. added nodes from op also
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
How to import the wallet.dat if its encrypted ?
Wouldn't it be like getting a new wallet? Download new wallet..open it..close it...delete new wallet .dat...replace with encrypted wallet .dat..open wallet again.  This is my guess..important.....still keep backup of encrypted wallet .dat

edit: How do we get the clams please?
legendary
Activity: 1284
Merit: 1042
How to import the wallet.dat if its encrypted ?
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
If most exchanges keep coins in a separate address for each user, then they will control the vast majority of clams. Most users probably keep all their coins in one address if they run a wallet on their computer.

Although you are partially correct, most users do not quite understand how the standard wallet functions.

CLAMS were sent to unique addresses with unspent OUTPUTS.  
Most even marginally active personal wallets, which haven't sent their entire balance (combining outputs) should have multiple unspent outputs in multiple addresses.

Indeed, as a common measure of security and privacy, it is ALWAYS recommended that users use a different receive address for each payment they receive.

In addition, a commonly unknown fact is that the client automatically creates 100 "change" addresses, in the background.  Each and every time you send a coin from one place to the next, all outputs utilized must be allocated entirely.  This means that your payment goes to the receiving address, and the rest of those ouputs arrives in what are called "change" addresses.

A long-winded explanation to a commonly misunderstood concept; our apologies.

BTC wallet with coin?
BTC wallet which HAD coins roughly a handful of days ago when we did our data scrape of the block chains.  You could quite safely send those coins wherever you please at this point, and it would not affect your current balance of CLAMS on the clam network.


How can I get my CLAMS?plz post detail.

Happy to help if you have a specific issue.  Detailed instructions can be found above, under "Wallet Transfer Guides:"


I don't see  "Wallet Transfer Guides"  any help please.
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