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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 445. (Read 1151252 times)

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Would be nice to get clams on another exchange, looks like it needs more votes here
Careful. The CLAMS listed on that page isn't the CLAMs that this thread is about.
Will the real CLAM please stand up (and give me a lottery block)!!!

Sorry, very rarely use the delete function; but that link pertains to a crypto that launched after us but neglected to bother checking for the name being in use.

Given the importance of security when it comes to proof-of-chain and the Real CLAMS, I have quoted the posts and removed the link.

Sorry!
legendary
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
Hi guys.

 I have a problem with the wallet. I'm missing some clams and all my addresses are gone. also my password for unlocking wallet does not work, although I'm pretty sure that I have correct one. Any idea what could happened? All that happened when I restart computer.

best ragards

Did you exit your wallet before you restarted the computer?
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CLAMS is not broken ,therefore no need to "fix" by following the latest trends, hell you could also change the algo to XCLAM5001 add Pearl Ring Signatures, fork couterparty into the blockchain followed by an airdrop and implementation of PoT Proof of Trend
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thats cool, I sent about 300mh there for about a day, zero clams so far Sad

Feel your pain, really do.  There is a bit of coinage sitting on exchange, but by time you figure exchange fees and what-not withdrawing it would mean a massive percentage in fees  Angry

So sitting it remains, for now.

Sorry ;(

I would estimate you got about 3 BTC of hash on that pool before it bit the dust...
It was just too much of a black box... and running ASICs is expensive...
So that's about 4,000 CLAM less expenses that you should pay out.

The ONLY reason to have a multipool is to pump the price...
This is a Zero Sum game... you take cap from other alts... or they take cap from you...
You play to win or you don't play.

It's a miracle that CLAM is still hanging at 70K sat... and viable.

Here's what I think you should do...
Get ClamStake into the thick of the High Stake niche with HYP, HBN, CAP, etc...
That niche is rocking and has quality devs and communities...
You have to increase the float any way you can and re-brand this thing.

 Cool Cool Cool

Forget about the innovative launch... it's irrelevant at this point.


I'd have to strongly disagree. The launch is most relevant because it was the most fair launch of any coin (my opinion) as far as per-user coin supply. No handouts, and furthermore no coins that can be mined on a whim to instantly pump the price. This was on purpose, as market cap should increase at an almost even rate along with user adoption. Sure, coin supply is slow, but it was never absurd like some of the other coins you mentioned(Read: I love most of these other coins, no disrespect intended). No other coins can say this as their stake rates are massive and/or coin supply suffers from unequal distribution, mining farms, handouts, developer faucets, short term holding, etc.

If Johnny(buttcoin millionaire) comes in tomorrow, he has his fair share, just as he did from day one. The same amount of coin. But, he wasn't staking to support the network, so he hasn't gotten any interest. That doesn't mean he's not going to dump it all, but I'd consider it less likely because there's not some huge machine churning out CLAMS that can outdo him. Just because someone doesn't recognize our coin NOW doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to get a whole lot later. Nor does it mean they shouldn't get more for supporting the network consistently, even if they have a small amount; hence the lotto system. A few weeks ago someone staked a lotto of ~700 CLAM from a pile of just 2 CLAM.

TLDR:
I fail to see any flaws in our distribution method other than not having a huge gaping supply to hype the shit out of CLAMS?
We're not a pump and dump coin; but yes, if you're going to compare us to other pump and dump coins, we're going to look like just another turd.



As far as the multipool thing goes, yeah, it's not real profitable now. There's never a whole lot of CLAMS for sale, which makes them expensive. Our most common stake is 0.1 CLAM, and when you're relying on these kind of small numbers for a "supply", it's a less preferable option than simply mining other coins (Unless you really love CLAMS like me, I'm #1 on our hash list =D). If you look at the QBK multipool, it dropped almost 1GH of x11 in one day due to a price drop after the recent pump. On the other hand, the CLAMS multipool is more intended to maintain current exchange prices rather than create a massive pump. Many users keep their CLAMS originally from importing their personal wallets, as this is just for fun (for now at least), thus the amount in circulation becomes even smaller.

That's not to say I won't run a faucet if I stake a large lotto block, though =p =D Just to get the word out, if anything.
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I would estimate you got about 3 BTC of hash on that pool before it bit the dust...
It was just too much of a black box... and running ASICs is expensive...
So that's about 4,000 CLAM less expenses that you should pay out.

The ONLY reason to have a multipool is to pump the price...
This is a Zero Sum game... you take cap from other alts... or they take cap from you...
You play to win or you don't play.

It's a miracle that CLAM is still hanging at 70K sat... and viable.

Here's what I think you should do...
Get ClamStake into the thick of the High Stake niche with HYP, HBN, CAP, etc...
That niche is rocking and has quality devs and communities...
You have to increase the float any way you can and re-brand this thing.

 Cool Cool Cool

Forget about the innovative launch... it's irrelevant at this point.


CLAMs remains around 70k Satoshi because of that innovative lauch  Wink

But yes, much of the work currently being done with CLAMs is focused on bringing more light to its lottery system.
legendary
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thats cool, I sent about 300mh there for about a day, zero clams so far Sad

Feel your pain, really do.  There is a bit of coinage sitting on exchange, but by time you figure exchange fees and what-not withdrawing it would mean a massive percentage in fees  Angry

So sitting it remains, for now.

Sorry ;(

I would estimate you got about 3 BTC of hash on that pool before it bit the dust...
It was just too much of a black box... and running ASICs is expensive...
So that's about 4,000 CLAM less expenses that you should pay out.

The ONLY reason to have a multipool is to pump the price...
This is a Zero Sum game... you take cap from other alts... or they take cap from you...
You play to win or you don't play.

It's a miracle that CLAM is still hanging at 70K sat... and viable.

Here's what I think you should do...
Get ClamStake into the thick of the High Stake niche with HYP, HBN, CAP, etc...
That niche is rocking and has quality devs and communities...
You have to increase the float any way you can and re-brand this thing.

 Cool Cool Cool

Forget about the innovative launch... it's irrelevant at this point.
legendary
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
So far my biggest stake block is Credit: 0.6888463 CLAM  Cheesy
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I just want to interrupt to say WooHoo! I got a non-insignificant lotto block:

http://khashier.com:2750/tx/6108de8adea28742aecb5a97aa6aafbf8af0e0d06b6a47cda116a56db0a05e62

Ok, so it's only 4.05524201 CLAMs more than a standard reward but I'm still hyped Tongue
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It's in wallet.cpp for any that want to get rid of it. Search for '//split stake'

Code:
if (GetWeight(block.GetBlockTime(), (int64_t)txNew.nTime) < nStakeSplitAge)
                    txNew.vout.push_back(CTxOut(0, scriptPubKeyOut));

nStakeSplitAge = 1 day by default

This will be exposed to the UI next release to suit user preference.
On the other hand, I've seen piles of 2 CLAM stake some very high lotto blocks, so this isn't necessarily a dire thing unless things are splitting into needless amounts.

The splitting isn't too bad, but the re-joining wastes accumulated age.

That's exactly it. My issue with this code is that when you have super small piles (like 4 CLAM, say, from importing a wallet) they end up splitting into low priority amounts depending purely on luck. I'd like to prevent this for our users and let them gain their weight as intended; and not create excess change that takes forever to stake.
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It's in wallet.cpp for any that want to get rid of it. Search for '//split stake'

Code:
if (GetWeight(block.GetBlockTime(), (int64_t)txNew.nTime) < nStakeSplitAge)
                    txNew.vout.push_back(CTxOut(0, scriptPubKeyOut));

nStakeSplitAge = 1 day by default

This will be exposed to the UI next release to suit user preference.
On the other hand, I've seen piles of 2 CLAM stake some very high lotto blocks, so this isn't necessarily a dire thing unless things are splitting into needless amounts.

The splitting isn't too bad, but the re-joining wastes accumulated age.
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I wonder how long it will take one of the clone makers to decide that the CLAM blockchain would be great to seed free coins to...... Cheesy

That is what I thought when I first read the ANN thread, a proof of chain of a proof of chain of a proof of chain of a proof of chain.
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We have yet another clone Grin;D;D

You can find it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/notice-project-x-come-join-the-movement-791338

And my response, here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/notice-project-x-come-join-the-movement-791338.msg8928741#msg8928741

Make sure you spread the CLAM love, and don't let them delete my posts and shush the Great CLAM Grin

I wonder how long it will take one of the clone makers to decide that the CLAM blockchain would be great to seed free coins to...... Cheesy
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It's in wallet.cpp for any that want to get rid of it. Search for '//split stake'

Code:
if (GetWeight(block.GetBlockTime(), (int64_t)txNew.nTime) < nStakeSplitAge)
                    txNew.vout.push_back(CTxOut(0, scriptPubKeyOut));

nStakeSplitAge = 1 day by default

This will be exposed to the UI next release to suit user preference.
On the other hand, I've seen piles of 2 CLAM stake some very high lotto blocks, so this isn't necessarily a dire thing unless things are splitting into needless amounts.
legendary
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I have mine mainly in 90 something 5 CLAM bundles but each are sent to an individual address - mine rarely get split up when they stake, although I noticed it did happen recently but looks like they got combined again the next time they staked (or they are both currently staking).

Think this is one of the oldest:

http://khashier.com:2750/address/xX1M9f3BJJH14NyZcKdS5QJByiKoNGftoR

There are weird rules about when they get split and rejoined; an output is split if it stakes twice within 28 hours I think, and then will be rejoined the next time either half stakes. I changed the rules in my client so they never get rejoined, and always get split if they're bigger than 5.
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I have mine mainly in 90 something 5 CLAM bundles but each are sent to an individual address - mine rarely get split up when they stake, although I noticed it did happen recently but looks like they got combined again the next time they staked (or they are both currently staking).

Think this is one of the oldest:

http://khashier.com:2750/address/xX1M9f3BJJH14NyZcKdS5QJByiKoNGftoR
legendary
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I split my CLAMs into separate outputs of 5 CLAM each when I first get them (through mining or on the exchange).

I just counted up all my unspent outputs, and found that the most common size is 2.55 CLAM.

I guess that's because my 5 CLAM outputs get 0.1 CLAMs when they stake, and the total 5.1 gets split into two 2.55 CLAM outputs.

In reducing order of commonness, these are my most common output sizes:

2.55 5.00 2.65 2.85 2.95 2.75

Weird that 2.95 is more common than 2.75.

My biggest output that I dug up myself is now 4.05 - look at him go!

http://khashier.com:2750/address/xNXJrsK1zYEsWwzFXb9SZaG7aEJXmuaa3J

Unfortunately his ugly twin seems to have stagnated at 3.36262905 CLAM.
legendary
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
We have a winner. To which address would you like your "Jackpot" Dooglus?

Smiley

Can you send it to the charity address that was posted a while back please?

Thanks!!!  I keep splitting them up, CFK has about 18 addresses now!!
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I most certainly will. Plus a little extra Smiley


EDIT: ...Forgot to adjust the amount for the fee. Oh well 10.90009998 sent on your behalf Dooglus  Cool

http://khashier.com:2750/tx/6a5207ef73ce43b6ca68f3586aedf12dff29d1a1f393e25a9ffd5742d7af46e9

CLAM On!
legendary
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We have a winner. To which address would you like your "Jackpot" Dooglus?

Smiley

Can you send it to the charity address that was posted a while back please?
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We have a winner. To which address would you like your "Jackpot" Dooglus?

Smiley
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