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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 463. (Read 1151252 times)

sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Yeah, as soon as I saw the nodes worked, I closed the client and replaced the wallet.dat, they slowly started popping up as I downloaded the blockchain.  And already got 0.1 CLAM more for staking!

The network difficulty is generally at or around the minimum.

That means that each of your 4.6 CLAM outputs has a 2^20 / (4.6 * age_in_days) chance of staking each second.

The distribution was around 72 days ago, and so:

>>> 2**20 / (72 * 4.6)
3166

each 4.6 CLAM output will typically take about an hour on average to stake.

When it stakes, its age is destroyed, so you won't expect to see it stake again for a while.

And the 0.1 you saw is pseudo-random, and can be as much as 1000 CLAMs if you're really lucky.

99% of the time it's 0.1 though.

Ok, so forgive me if this has been addressed already, but I'm just curious if I understand this correctly.  If I have 50 clams, odds are I am going to hit the same number of PoS blocks in a year no matter if those clams are in one pile or spread out in little piles over 100 different addresses.  EXCEPT for that long confirmation time of 510 blocks.  If we view PoS in clams as a lottery, the guy that has all his clams in one pile effectively doesn't have a ticket for 510 blocks.  So the guy with lots of little piles will end up hitting more blocks, as he is always going to have a ticket.  So it is advantageous to spread your clams out as much as possible.  Do I got this right?
hero member
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Anyone else noticed a higher number of "Generated but not accepted" recently? Over the last 2 days I've had 20%.... 2 out of the last 10.

Maybe the number of coins I'm staking is too low (5-8 per "pile")?

Am using build v1.4.2.0-47-g7fecba1.
Try to increase your peer count.  5 per pile seems to be a great amount per stack, and that shouldn't have any affect on orphans anyway.

I have never had an orphan block since I have been staking CLAMs.
member
Activity: 92
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Anyone else noticed a higher number of "Generated but not accepted" recently? Over the last 2 days I've had 20%.... 2 out of the last 10.

Maybe the number of coins I'm staking is too low (5-8 per "pile")?

Am using build v1.4.2.0-47-g7fecba1.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Sweet ! So those centralized services generating numerous addresses can have boat load of clams.

Only the lazy ones that don't sweep customer deposits into cold storage. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1002
Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
can I just claim my Clam, is it too late ? how to

Any BTC, LTC, or DOGE private key which had some non-dust amount of coin on it some time in early May this year will have 4.6 or so CLAM on it too.

Simply export the private key from your BTC (or LTC, or DOGE) client and import it into the CLAM client.

Alternately, you can just copy your wallet.dat from the BTC data folder into the CLAM data folder, then run "clam-qt -rescan" to have it check all the private keys in that wallet.

A natural concern is that the CLAM wallet software will steal the BTC from the private keys you give it. I have given it private keys with hundreds of BTC on, and it hasn't stolen any of them.

If you're concerned, you can make sure the private keys you give it have already been emptied out of BTC - then you don't have to trust the CLAM software.

Sweet ! So those centralized services generating numerous addresses can have boat load of clams.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I notice that some addresses received multiple 4.6 CLAM deposits in the initial distribution.

See http://khashier.com:2750/address/xV4sJ8TkjZbkfAP4knLfRVgGVeNQTQQxPJ for example.

Was that a mistake, or what's going on with that?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Yeah, as soon as I saw the nodes worked, I closed the client and replaced the wallet.dat, they slowly started popping up as I downloaded the blockchain.  And already got 0.1 CLAM more for staking!

The network difficulty is generally at or around the minimum.

That means that each of your 4.6 CLAM outputs has a 2^20 / (4.6 * age_in_days) chance of staking each second.

The distribution was around 72 days ago, and so:

>>> 2**20 / (72 * 4.6)
3166

each 4.6 CLAM output will typically take about an hour on average to stake.

When it stakes, its age is destroyed, so you won't expect to see it stake again for a while.

And the 0.1 you saw is pseudo-random, and can be as much as 1000 CLAMs if you're really lucky.

99% of the time it's 0.1 though.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.

They should all be in your wallet as soon as it finishes rescanning the blockchain. That takes a few minutes typically.

Oh, but maybe you didn't download the blockchain yet - if you're downloading it, you'll see them appear as it downloads. It looks like the 4.6 CLAM awards happened from block 558 to block 9262.

Yeah, as soon as I saw the nodes worked, I closed the client and replaced the wallet.dat, they slowly started popping up as I downloaded the blockchain.  And already got 0.1 CLAM more for staking!
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.

They should all be in your wallet as soon as it finishes rescanning the blockchain. That takes a few minutes typically.

Oh, but maybe you didn't download the blockchain yet - if you're downloading it, you'll see them appear as it downloads. It looks like the 4.6 CLAM awards happened from block 558 to block 9262.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?

Try these:

Code:
# coin: clam
addnode=24.67.30.88
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=65.102.47.162
addnode=24.184.168.36
addnode=93.103.131.59
addnode=85.17.81.164
addnode=142.4.201.123
addnode=84.194.247.232
addnode=220.253.2.201
addnode=188.116.147.85
addnode=85.17.81.169
addnode=109.223.234.123
addnode=173.68.204.192
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=107.192.136.116
addnode=24.238.75.8
addnode=184.9.244.44
addnode=79.206.224.49
addnode=207.61.182.125
addnode=216.46.33.120
addnode=99.233.92.9
addnode=85.191.52.188
addnode=67.201.165.63
addnode=82.26.243.220

Superclam, I see the source code has 4 different seed nodes, are they down or just "full"?

connect to address 54.186.94.88: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.202.251: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.249.57: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.187.138.13: Operation timed out


Thanks, that worked.  Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Can someone gives me some nodes?

Here:

24.238.75.8:31174
65.102.47.162:31174
75.131.208.152:31174
76.173.48.220:31174
84.194.247.232:31174
85.191.52.188:31174
93.103.131.59:31174
107.192.136.116:31174
142.4.201.123:31174
173.68.204.192:31174
184.9.244.44:31174
188.116.147.85:31174
203.20.114.252:31174
216.46.33.120:31174
220.253.2.201:31174
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1092
Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?

Try these:

Code:
# coin: clam
addnode=24.67.30.88
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=65.102.47.162
addnode=24.184.168.36
addnode=93.103.131.59
addnode=85.17.81.164
addnode=142.4.201.123
addnode=84.194.247.232
addnode=220.253.2.201
addnode=188.116.147.85
addnode=85.17.81.169
addnode=109.223.234.123
addnode=173.68.204.192
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=107.192.136.116
addnode=24.238.75.8
addnode=184.9.244.44
addnode=79.206.224.49
addnode=207.61.182.125
addnode=216.46.33.120
addnode=99.233.92.9
addnode=85.191.52.188
addnode=67.201.165.63
addnode=82.26.243.220

Superclam, I see the source code has 4 different seed nodes, are they down or just "full"?

connect to address 54.186.94.88: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.202.251: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.249.57: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.187.138.13: Operation timed out
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
can I just claim my Clam, is it too late ? how to

Any BTC, LTC, or DOGE private key which had some non-dust amount of coin on it some time in early May this year will have 4.6 or so CLAM on it too.

Simply export the private key from your BTC (or LTC, or DOGE) client and import it into the CLAM client.

Alternately, you can just copy your wallet.dat from the BTC data folder into the CLAM data folder, then run "clam-qt -rescan" to have it check all the private keys in that wallet.

A natural concern is that the CLAM wallet software will steal the BTC from the private keys you give it. I have given it private keys with hundreds of BTC on, and it hasn't stolen any of them.

If you're concerned, you can make sure the private keys you give it have already been emptied out of BTC - then you don't have to trust the CLAM software.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1002
Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
can I just claim my Clam, is it too late ? how to
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Just curious:

Is that 1.5 BTC buy support @ 0.0015 the 'Clam Shell'?

No.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1000
Bass Player
Just curious:

Is that 1.5 BTC buy support @ 0.0015 the 'Clam Shell'?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Work has already begun to add x11 to the CLAMS Multi-pool Smiley
WIN!  I want to mine me some X11 CLAMs!
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