probably should kept that crap in the irc memory hole
Maybe, but I find it as funny as before
...and I was able to reach Godwin point alone, without any help, so proud of me 
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October 29, 2015, 11:19:36 AM
Maybe, but I find it as funny as before
...and I was able to reach Godwin point alone, without any help, so proud of me 
October 29, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
probably should kept that crap in the irc memory hole
October 29, 2015, 11:04:12 AM
I am not sure why everyone is harping on the side projects? They are good to have and the dev team has been working on the wallets for over a year. Do you know how frustrating that is, to work on something for a long period of time?
People need to break from long projects to accomplish something different to refresh their minds so they can plug away at the long term stuff. They are accomplishing many things.
No one likes the price here, but that will all change in the next 12 months.
People need to break from long projects to accomplish something different to refresh their minds so they can plug away at the long term stuff. They are accomplishing many things.
No one likes the price here, but that will all change in the next 12 months.
Not saying side-projects are bad.
Just saying that it's horrific to see side-projects popping-up and running, when the 1st ultra priority project doesn't evolve at all. That's the more frustating, on our public side. Of course if people developping side-projects are doing so because they can't help the main project, there is no negative impact on the final wallet, but, still, frustating.
I agree that people need to have hollidays and some rest sometimes, it's normal. And I thank them for their work.
But all the illogic (to my eyes) of the Cloak team agenda, as I wrote earlier today, was the reason I reacted so.
October 29, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
I understood long time ago, most people are ungrateful creatures,
keep some respect to the cloakteam for the efforts they make !
They are not our employees or workers if you forgot !
keep some respect to the cloakteam for the efforts they make !
They are not our employees or workers if you forgot !
October 29, 2015, 10:17:55 AM
OK, now, to celebrate my 100th post on this forum, let's have some fun, folks
Feel free to post whatever you heart feel to do
We are all ONE
A long time ago, in a IRC channel not so far, far away... I made a new Cloak logo proposal, just kidding, and to have some of Cash-cash's brain fuses burned (I succeeded a lot more than hoped )
Their reactions & answers still bring me tears of laugh :-)
Lightning-fast haters, trolls, or moderators, before screaming at me or banning me, please read the 3 following webpages completely, till the end !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/swazi/376061/ (the text is interrupted by advertisings several times, scroll down !)
http://www.spiritualpunx.com/store/
(I have no relationship or interests in Spiritualpunx products and store)
I don’t like Nazi Cross, I hate Hitler and his National-Socialist ideology, and all forms of nazism/NSDAP related things, I only like the old original meanings of regular swastikas, world universally used symbol, old of thousands years.
Lightning-fast haters, trolls, or moderators, before screaming at me or banning me, please read the 3 following webpages completely, till the end !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/swazi/376061/ (the text is interrupted by advertisings several times, scroll down !)
http://www.spiritualpunx.com/store/
(I have no relationship or interests in Spiritualpunx products and store)
I don’t like Nazi Cross, I hate Hitler and his National-Socialist ideology, and all forms of nazism/NSDAP related things, I only like the old original meanings of regular swastikas, world universally used symbol, old of thousands years.
To make the atmosphere more light here, and to have a little fun, do you allow me to post my funny new Cloak logo proposal, mein Führer ? 
Remember, the one that horrified you ?
With all needed links to educate people about the symbols, of course !
Remember, the one that horrified you ?
With all needed links to educate people about the symbols, of course !
Feel free to post whatever you heart feel to do
We are all ONE
A long time ago, in a IRC channel not so far, far away... I made a new Cloak logo proposal, just kidding, and to have some of Cash-cash's brain fuses burned
(I succeeded a lot more than hoped )Their reactions & answers still bring me tears of laugh :-)
Lightning-fast haters, trolls, or moderators, before screaming at me or banning me, please read the 3 following webpages completely, till the end !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/swazi/376061/ (the text is interrupted by advertisings several times, scroll down !)
http://www.spiritualpunx.com/store/
(I have no relationship or interests in Spiritualpunx products and store)
I don’t like Nazi Cross, I hate Hitler and his National-Socialist ideology, and all forms of nazism/NSDAP related things, I only like the old original meanings of regular swastikas, world universally used symbol, old of thousands years.
Lightning-fast haters, trolls, or moderators, before screaming at me or banning me, please read the 3 following webpages completely, till the end !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/swazi/376061/ (the text is interrupted by advertisings several times, scroll down !)
http://www.spiritualpunx.com/store/
(I have no relationship or interests in Spiritualpunx products and store)
I don’t like Nazi Cross, I hate Hitler and his National-Socialist ideology, and all forms of nazism/NSDAP related things, I only like the old original meanings of regular swastikas, world universally used symbol, old of thousands years.
October 29, 2015, 10:11:54 AM
The key thing here is that important info has been deliberately withheld, which is a change from the norm of regular and open updating.
It's concerning whichever way you cut it.
It's concerning whichever way you cut it.
October 29, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
I am not sure why everyone is harping on the side projects? They are good to have and the dev team has been working on the wallets for over a year. Do you know how frustrating that is, to work on something for a long period of time?
People need to break from long projects to accomplish something different to refresh their minds so they can plug away at the long term stuff. They are accomplishing many things.
No one likes the price here, but that will all change in the next 12 months.
People need to break from long projects to accomplish something different to refresh their minds so they can plug away at the long term stuff. They are accomplishing many things.
No one likes the price here, but that will all change in the next 12 months.
October 29, 2015, 09:22:35 AM
oh well im going for a drink anyone joining me??
by the way here's my twitter tipcloak address feel free to tip so i can put some funds on my mobile android wallet 
@exslave_cloak
CAyqrnR41JWM7uxeTXJsYh1ZarU7aPH8EN
by the way here's my twitter tipcloak address feel free to tip
so i can put some funds on my mobile android wallet @exslave_cloak
CAyqrnR41JWM7uxeTXJsYh1ZarU7aPH8EN
October 29, 2015, 09:06:16 AM
... I will admit I am extremely anxious for the new wallet as is everyone else but at the same time if it isn't ready it isn't ready. I would rather wait than get a wallet that isn't finished and will be torn apart in reviews...
I understand that, and agree, even if it doesn't change anything about what I said. Thank for your answer.
October 29, 2015, 09:05:53 AM
Thanks for update!
I trust Team Cloak !!!
I trust Team Cloak !!!
October 29, 2015, 08:59:55 AM
October 29, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
Well said my friend!
I give you right in mostly points. The side Projects like Twitterbot, Android Wallet and co this all was not made by our Coder "Indigo" he promises us from begin he will finish the POSA3-Wallet but cause many reasons from his side he didn't!
It was not our fault cause we have 100% trust in him and his delay made this bad situation for us all.
I am really sorry for this and i feel same like you all and i have also invested much of money in this project.
At the moment i am negotiate with 2 more coders to finish finally the POSA3 wallet cause i can't and don't want wait anymore for "Indigo" cause he said self he don't know when he able to finish this work!
So don't think its always our all fault, sometimes things happened in universe but not always for our bad .)
I am also happy to see you still believe in us it make me/us stronger in this difficult time.
PEACE & LOVE
I give you right in mostly points. The side Projects like Twitterbot, Android Wallet and co this all was not made by our Coder "Indigo" he promises us from begin he will finish the POSA3-Wallet but cause many reasons from his side he didn't!
It was not our fault cause we have 100% trust in him and his delay made this bad situation for us all.
I am really sorry for this and i feel same like you all and i have also invested much of money in this project.
At the moment i am negotiate with 2 more coders to finish finally the POSA3 wallet cause i can't and don't want wait anymore for "Indigo" cause he said self he don't know when he able to finish this work!
So don't think its always our all fault, sometimes things happened in universe but not always for our bad .)
I am also happy to see you still believe in us it make me/us stronger in this difficult time.
PEACE & LOVE
OK, OK...
nothing more to add from my side now.To make the atmosphere more light here, and to have a little fun, do you allow me to post my funny new Cloak logo proposal, mein Führer ?
Remember, the one that horrified you ?
With all needed links to educate people about the symbols, of course !
Feel free to post whatever you heart feel to do
We are all ONE
October 29, 2015, 07:46:22 AM
October 29, 2015, 07:44:11 AM
Well said my friend!
I give you right in mostly points. The side Projects like Twitterbot, Android Wallet and co this all was not made by our Coder "Indigo" he promises us from begin he will finish the POSA3-Wallet but cause many reasons from his side he didn't!
It was not our fault cause we have 100% trust in him and his delay made this bad situation for us all.
I am really sorry for this and i feel same like you all and i have also invested much of money in this project.
At the moment i am negotiate with 2 more coders to finish finally the POSA3 wallet cause i can't and don't want wait anymore for "Indigo" cause he said self he don't know when he able to finish this work!
So don't think its always our all fault, sometimes things happened in universe but not always for our bad .)
I am also happy to see you still believe in us it make me/us stronger in this difficult time.
PEACE & LOVE
I give you right in mostly points. The side Projects like Twitterbot, Android Wallet and co this all was not made by our Coder "Indigo" he promises us from begin he will finish the POSA3-Wallet but cause many reasons from his side he didn't!
It was not our fault cause we have 100% trust in him and his delay made this bad situation for us all.
I am really sorry for this and i feel same like you all and i have also invested much of money in this project.
At the moment i am negotiate with 2 more coders to finish finally the POSA3 wallet cause i can't and don't want wait anymore for "Indigo" cause he said self he don't know when he able to finish this work!
So don't think its always our all fault, sometimes things happened in universe but not always for our bad .)
I am also happy to see you still believe in us it make me/us stronger in this difficult time.
PEACE & LOVE
OK, OK...
nothing more to add from my side now.To make the atmosphere more light here, and to have a little fun, do you allow me to post my funny new Cloak logo proposal, mein Führer ?
Remember, the one that horrified you ?
With all needed links to educate people about the symbols, of course !
October 29, 2015, 07:25:42 AM
October 29, 2015, 07:14:42 AM
Yes, it's pretty...
...
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
...
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Ratatosk we love you too
I think you forgot small thing: We could release POSA3 wallet long time ago without Security Audit, but we decide to do a "Security Audit".
I understand that you all impatient and want best "MAGIC/HOLY GRAIL ANON WALLET" in one week but come down to earth and be realistic its not possible to release good quality product in few weeks, not with our budget and sources.
But if you able to help us to code the wallet so you help is very appreciated, if you can't so try to spread more LOVE, cause you hate help ZERO in our situation!
PEACE & LOVE!
Yes I remember the audit... and the several "small" things needed to be fixed. But since the audit you also wrote many times that all was almost finished, and that we wouldn't have to wait long, or that all is going to be fixed very quick or come out really-really soon...
I know it's a lot of work. I was only saying that finalizing and releasing the final working PoSA3 anon wallet should have been your ultra top priority target, and that many things not really urgent or not anon like Twitter tips, Android, videos, bloackexplorer, new promises/announces of next revolutional changes, new graphic layer of website, should have been made after the mega urgent and needed public release of PoSA3 wallet.
Your recent past and actual agenda scary me because it's so much illogic, I really don't understand how no one of you realize that, and how bad it was and it still is for Cloak. So much time and energy (and so, money too) lost.
You know I have several interesting qualities, but I can't help you to code. But even, if I could, your paranoia about not sharing the code except between you and Indigo would make my contribution to code impossible.
You told me you want to satisfy your investors. I don't see or understand how this behaviour helps to reach this goal. And by the way, I'm still one of these investors, for what that matters, even if less than before.
Despite our divergence of thinkings, there is absolutely no hate from me about Cloak. I really did not want to make Cloak team & supporters sad or angry. But many things disapoint me, or scare me. I'm only trying to open your eyes, from my outside position that allows me to have a quite impartial clear and global view.
And yes, you know I'm also in a kind of hope, live long & prosper, peace & love trip, with or without graphical pink cross (private joke, all other forum readers)... But one of the problems is that you only promise and deliver that, for now, sorry. We can only judge and make a conclusion on a guy/team/project on facts and results, not on words.
October 29, 2015, 07:02:31 AM
Hi
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Unfortunately it's true
I now have serious doubts about the "CloakCoin" and cloak team
Wallet was already in the beta version, but everything stopped after audit
Maybe it's not all the problems have been published
Who knows who Iain 'Jonny Bravo' Craig, I would like to talk with him
How can I contact him
Audit of the CloakCoin PoSA3 implementation Iain Craig <[email protected]>, 28 July 2015
http://www.cloakcoin.com/downloads/PoSA3_Audit_Report.pdf
October 29, 2015, 07:01:54 AM
Other coins release immediately when they have a semi-working beta version, not Cloak!
Cloakteam made a working beta, made one release candidate, audit it and is still working on it because they focus on product quality.
Cloak isnt hostage of day-traders charts and prices, most alt coins crumble at the feet of the markets, here we can say we are free.
The day of Wallet will come and it will be a job well done
Stay strong
Cloakteam made a working beta, made one release candidate, audit it and is still working on it because they focus on product quality.
Cloak isnt hostage of day-traders charts and prices, most alt coins crumble at the feet of the markets, here we can say we are free.
The day of Wallet will come and it will be a job well done
Stay strong
October 29, 2015, 06:47:31 AM
Hi
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Unfortunately it's true
I now have serious doubts about the "CloakCoin" and cloak team
Wallet was already in the beta version, but everything stopped after audit
Maybe it's not all the problems have been published
Who knows who Iain 'Jonny Bravo' Craig, I would like to talk with him
How can I contact him
October 29, 2015, 06:23:31 AM
Hi
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Yes, it's pretty...
But once again, you loose time with details.
https://bchain.info/CLOAK/ was good enough for now.
The only ultra priority thing the last Cloak believers are asking for, is the final PoSA3 anonymous working wallet, supposed to be "almost 99% finished" since beginning August, if I remember good.
No surprise prices crashes...
Sorry to write that, don't want to hurt, but it's only a fact that everybody can clearly see : the pattern of promised product release and communications is almost identical as what happened in Summer & Autumn 2014, with "Cloak 1.0" and "Cloak team 1.0". And everybody remembers how it finished. And Cloak team 2.0 almost 100% repeat copy/paste this pattern with Cloak 2.0 in 2015, the same months... For what everybody can see, Cloak is almost at same level of developpement and public trust than 12 month ago.
Anonymous altcoins lovers don't need a Twitterbot gadget not anonymous, or an Android wallet not anonymous, or advertising videos made by LucasArt, or a sparkling blockexplorer, or announce of "some big changes for the project" (you know what I think about, if it's what I beleive), or regular text updates full of Peace & Love, with background of violin music, raining flowers, bright and pure perfect future, but only asking to wait again and telling us all is going to arrive and be fine.
No : rare last alive Cloak supporters only want the only important thing they were expecting of Cloak : a Cloak wallet finally really anonymous (at least, for what you told us) to use a (supposed) good anonymous and private coin. But it never comes.
Ratatosk we love you too
I think you forgot small thing: We could release POSA3 wallet long time ago without Security Audit, but we decide to do a "Security Audit".
I understand that you all impatient and want best "MAGIC/HOLY GRAIL ANON WALLET" in one week but come down to earth and be realistic its not possible to release good quality product in few weeks, not with our budget and sources.
But if you able to help us to code the wallet so you help is very appreciated, if you can't so try to spread more LOVE, cause you hate help ZERO in our situation!
PEACE & LOVE!
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