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Topic: [ANN][CRW] CROWN (SHA256) | Platform | Governance | Systemnodes | Masternodes | - page 172. (Read 316957 times)

legendary
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Thank you for the summary urban_idler

I think there are some important points you have outlined:

1. The team met face to face, a rare thing in crypto, we saw our strengths and weaknesses, I think the personal meeting was a positive surprise for all.
2. We are starting to draft the white paper on our Crown revolution goals. Looking forward to that!
3. Governance structure - its essential for Crown to remain an open source with no funding from Corporations.

Great to meet you guys and looking forward!

Hopefully once the new Dash code is updated we can get the ball rolling with Throne voting, should help us keep some kind of consensus and structure on where we should spend dev funds.
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CROWN DEVELOPMENT TEAM MEETING NOTES
12/5/2016 – London / Blackfriars
9:30 AM -  3:30 PM

In Attendance: Chaositec, Defunctec, Crowncoin_Knight, Stonehedge, Urban_Idler

Purpose/Goals:
1.   Have a chance for people to meet face to face.
2.   Define and discuss each individual’s goals and reasons for involvement in the project, as well as their level of commitment.
3.   Discuss design principles and the elements of the Crown Revolution project.
4.   Begin to break out specific tasks, responsibilities and requirements for executing the project.

SUMMARY

The meeting served several the purposes listed above, and was the only way that the team could both digest the ideas which Chaositec and Stonehedge have articulated as the Crown Revolution and a face to face meeting was also the best way for team members to connect and commit to the goals of the project.

Everyone in attendance is committed to building, or attempting to build, a durable cryptographically secured application platform of lasting value.  This commitment and long-term orientation will be essential for the project’s success if we are to avoid “pursuing an attractive local maxima” – or in more colloquial terms, we aren’t going to run up to the top of the nearest hill and say we’ve won.  We have our sites set on a mountain – or constructing a system which solves problems which have developed for Bitcoin.

Chaositec articulated design principles which included the need for focus and simplicity – despite the fact that he himself can jump from idea to idea at different times.  The purpose of this note isn’t to get into any technical details, so this portion is truncated.  The key takeaway from the technical discussion was that everyone on the team at least conceptually understands the goals of the Crown Revolution project.  The course of work is leaving the conceptual phase and everyone on the team is onboard.

Stonehedge and Urban_Idler will begin work on the detailed documentation of the project, which is expected to result in a series of short white papers, and/or functional specifications describing what we will be attempting to build and why the high level logic suggests it should work and where the challenges may be as we drill down into the specific details.  The devil is always in the details.

Stonehedge and Urban_Idler discussed the importance of constructing the platform in a way that takes into account the different business models of the people running businesses on the platform.  Simplicity of the core platform is both a security consideration, but also a business consideration.  We want the platform to be stable and secure and rarely updated once it is completed so that economically successful communities of node operators and application developers can rely on and build their businesses on the Crown Network.

Part of the value of the Crown Platform will be that “Crown” will not be in the application business – Crown will be focused on the new blockchain and providing a stable framework for compute capacity and a process for integrating and operating applications on the platform.   

There are skills which the existing team lacks which will be needed to complete the project and we discussed how we would fill those skill gaps.  The team was in agreement that the way to do this would not be to raise capital from corporations. 

Despite the significant interest corporations have in blockchain at this point, the team believes that it is critical for the core Crown platform to stay clear of outside capital so that the project remains open source.  The world doesn’t need another technology platform controlled by corporations, arguably it needs more good ones that aren’t.

As the team thinks about the appropriate governance structure to both embed in Crown revolution (throne voting implementation details), Crowncoin_Knight and Urban_Idler agreed that it will be critical for the core platform to be organized such that we do our best to embed our values – in a way analogous to what Crowncoin_Knight did with the Knight’s Code, but formalized more as a sort of social contract or terms of service.  These elements of a social contract or terms of service should be constructed in collaboration with the community.  Crowncoin_Knight and Urban_Idler are idealistic about this, but it is not clear that these ideals can be implemented at the end of the day.  The only value of these statements may be as a signal to others who might be interested or deterred by them.

If the development process is successful, we hope to legally organize the project such that the intellectual property is held by a community benefit organization to prevent the platform from being captured by corporate interests, as one might argue has happened with Bitcoin. This would require more legal research, and may never happen. 

Defunctec updated the team on discussions with Bittrex.  The team has confidence and expressed support for whatever agreement he may be able to reach with Bittrex.  The address committed to covering Bittex’s listing expenses currently has a balance of about 2.2 BTC.

We quickly covered the current update to the latest Bitcoin/Dash core code for Crown which Infernoman has been working on and is on pace to complete before the end of the year, and the progress which Crowncoin_Knight is making on the website update -- texts were recently updated but the site is a little dated at this point.

And I think that’s about all that’s fit to print… except one last important detail...  I am someone who is sort of a “long-time listener, first time caller” in the crypto community.  My greatest personal concern coming into the meeting was that something from someone on the team would “set off my radar” – or it just wouldn’t feel right or add up.  In other words, I would get the vibe that someone was running a scam or that somebody just felt shifty or not genuine.  What I found was an eccentric, idiosyncratic group of very bright guys, all of whom are interested building something and whom I think I can learn from and also have fun working with. 

There are no guarantees that the team will reach its goals.  This is still a project, and not anyone’s full time job.  But if it fails to happen it won’t be due to a lack of effort from the team – the biggest issue is really that we know we don’t know everything we need to know to do this… which is an awkward sentence and an even more awkward feeling.

Our commitment to the community is just to communicate about our progress as we proceed. 
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I will support this if u present a hefty tremendous online seed generator with a mouse pointer acting a randomizer for producing the keys. Yeah, its when u move ur mouse from side to side and it calculates a hash from movements of ur pointer adding extra awesomeness to the process of seed generation.

Thank you for your interest.

Please see:
http://www.crowncoin.org/paper_wallet/

You can also get to that page by clicking on the paper wallet option on the wallet page of the Crown website:
http://crowncoin.org/wallet.php
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I will support this if u present a hefty tremendous online seed generator with a mouse pointer acting as a randomizer for producing the keys. Yeah, its when u move ur mouse from side to side and it calculates a hash from movements of ur pointer adding extra awesomeness to the process of seed generation.
legendary
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Well what can I say, I had a great weekend in London meeting Stonehedge, CHAOSiTEC, crowncoin_Knight and urban_idler. Awesome to meet 4 other people for a whole day to talk crypto and Crown.

So many plans/ideas were spoken about.
Maybe urban_idler can give the thread a breif breakdown of the meeting  Smiley
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I am glad your fund raising is looking up today. Nice work, keep it up Grin
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Decentralize Everything
What a great day we have in store for us today  Grin
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Hey guys

iOS app is finally done. Few bugs to sort tomorrow then will submit to app store. Crown monitoring on iPhones in just a few weeks, following Apple approval  Grin

https://i.imgur.com/z5cUYTNr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CGipWZ0r.jpg
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legendary
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Looks like there's a big jump in price due. Not a certainty but it looks like a whale has been catching coins as price comes down.
Strong support for almost 2 months. Pennant pattern is nearly coming to its end... Will it go up or down?




Well I was half right, it went doooowwwnnn.
the price can only go up or down, no matter what anyone guess, there will always be a 50% that you're right😊

Haha, of course.  I meant big move up or down.. Tongue
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Looks like there's a big jump in price due. Not a certainty but it looks like a whale has been catching coins as price comes down.
Strong support for almost 2 months. Pennant pattern is nearly coming to its end... Will it go up or down?




Well I was half right, it went doooowwwnnn.
the price can only go up or down, no matter what anyone guess, there will always be a 50% that you're right😊
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Looks like there's a big jump in price due. Not a certainty but it looks like a whale has been catching coins as price comes down.
Strong support for almost 2 months. Pennant pattern is nearly coming to its end... Will it go up or down?




Well I was half right, it went doooowwwnnn.
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[Add Crown to Bittrex Fund]

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All funds raised will be used to list Crown on Bittrex.com



1.8 BTC raised in few days!
legendary
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I will make one tonight.

3 BTC is around $2200  Shocked
I'd be amazed if we raise that, no harm in trying though

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0.2btc for the cause, lets make it happen Wink


Thanks for the contribution!
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I will make one tonight.

3 BTC is around $2200  Shocked
I'd be amazed if we raise that, no harm in trying though

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0.2btc for the cause, lets make it happen Wink
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I agree with you that Bittrex listing should be timed to be shortly after our December release.  We'll also be able to produce some promotional material based around the architecture that we will be discussing in London on Monday. 

I am very interested in collecting any existing promotional material as well as future produced material. Please message me with links or content regarding such.
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BTC on very high levels, small crypto hammered, we are holding 150 to 200k USD level, good sign, community is brave
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[Add Crown to Bittrex Fund]

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Looks like it's 1/2 way there with 1.5 BTC.  Is that correct?  3 BTC to list on Bittrex?

Also just curious what
1. Bittrex standards are for maintaining a coin on the exchange in terms of trading volume, software updates and dev team communications? 
2. When would Crown want to approach Bittrex about listing -- seems like this would be after the planned December CRW update just knowing how the world works... but would the goal be to be listed on Bittrex in January?   Or what would a reasonable timeline/expectation be assuming that the funds will be raised in the next week or two?



Bittrex have always been pretty professional in maintaining updates in my limited experience of dealing with them.

I agree with you that Bittrex listing should be timed to be shortly after our December release.  We'll also be able to produce some promotional material based around the architecture that we will be discussing in London on Monday. 

I have started discussion with Bittrex to alert them of our plans at the end of the month.

They seem interested now... feel free to forward any questions to me.

Great news, I am out of funds this week, I am paying 2 BTC for the new web design and coding I am presenting to the team in London on Monday, hope other community members will join to the Bittrex fund!
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