do you guys think is time for an uptrend or am i reading wrong the charts?
i think the uptrend started a week ago (at least i hope it did) : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15504195
Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1071. (Read 9723733 times)
July 15, 2016, 02:09:37 PM
i think the uptrend started a week ago (at least i hope it did) : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15504195
July 15, 2016, 02:04:39 PM
do you guys think is time for an uptrend or am i reading wrong the charts?
July 15, 2016, 01:49:20 PM
I wonder what kind of crowd would follow an Icetroll ? 
Wait, i think i got it :
an angry crowd
Maybe time to change your profile slogan ?
Wait, i think i got it :
an angry crowd
Maybe time to change your profile slogan ?
July 15, 2016, 12:58:09 PM
what the message is you're trying to bring across?
The message:
Duffield's advertisement of "8-15% return on your money in the bank" is tacky and economically impossible. (If it was real, capital would flood into the rare opportunity and drive rates down to market levels).
D10E should not allow the Dash Ponzi to turn their conference into a Get Rich Quick seminar.
July 15, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
1. who says that investing in crypto is risk-free... are you putting word into someone mouth again icetroll?
2. LEARN TO READ !!!!
http://blog.petetheplanner.com/what-rate-of-return-should-you-expect-on-your-investments/
3. even if i cant use average annual return of S&P, BTW do you know that in brazil interest rate is over 14% http://www.global-rates.com/ 
2. LEARN TO READ !!!!
http://blog.petetheplanner.com/what-rate-of-return-should-you-expect-on-your-investments/
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What do the charts show? Several things, but among the most important things you will see is that through 2014, the S&P 500 had an average annual return of 10.12%
3. even if i cant use average annual return of S&P, BTW do you know that in brazil interest rate is over 14%
http://www.global-rates.com/ July 15, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Proposal: Infrastructure - Liquidity Providers (Aug)
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-infrastructure-liquidity-providers-aug.9735/
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-infrastructure-liquidity-providers-aug.9735/
July 15, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
Proposal: Core Development - 12.2 DashDrive Developers
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-core-development-12-2-dashdrive-developers.9732/
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-core-development-12-2-dashdrive-developers.9732/
July 15, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
8% per year is quite just about medium-high yield for investment. its far from being mission impossibro as he was trying to say.
I like the part where you take the very lowest end of the "8-15% ROI on yearly basis" Duff advertised, and make your post all about "8%."
Your factoids make my point, which is that it's irresponsible and probably illegal to lure unsophisticated investors into the Masternode endless chain scheme using market-beating figures like "15% ROI."
Residential rentals are not a passive investment, nor are they risk-free. So there's no parallel to Masternodes.
Comparing 20 year average return of a stock index to a specific "investment" like Masternodes is every more ridiculous.
Dash:
"Want 8-15% return on your money in the bank? That just became possible."
Onecoin:
"We will show you our success formula on how to make “a lot” of money very quickly!"
Same shit, different pile.
I hope Bitcoin Uncensored is able to attend D10E, and they bust Duff's scam like they did to the OneCoin MLM scam.
One Coin Ponzi Miami Sales 'Seminar' Disrupted by Junseth and DeRose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeyrR2JGLUs
D10E should not allow the Dash Ponzi to turn their conference into a Get Rich Quick seminar.
July 15, 2016, 09:41:28 AM
A reminder that our Shen (adam back) worshiping friends are here to pollute our little corner of the online world as part of the build up to any interest gained for DASH out of D10e and the next release.
They have a whole spreadsheet full of accounts to use for spam so not much we can do about it.
EDIT : remember their war cry 'there can only be one, in singularity we will be one and for monero we will fight as one'
They have a whole spreadsheet full of accounts to use for spam so not much we can do about it.
EDIT : remember their war cry 'there can only be one, in singularity we will be one and for monero we will fight as one'
OMG, how did you know about our top sekrit spreadsheet singularity doctrine?!
Who told you!?
Speaking of "interest gained", do you actually believe Dash Masternodes' promised "8-15% ROI on yearly basis" is anything HYIP snake oil?
Coin is dangerous.
8~15% ROI is not high in coin market.
Ice would know many thing more than ordinary member, he would run several masternode for dumping and for trolling.
July 15, 2016, 04:30:52 AM
Wow I think IceyTR0ll just got wrecked....does that mean he still gets his 1 XMR for that post?
hopefully not....maybe Icery and his bum chum dnale0r need to think of something new to do. Hows about stick to your own fucking thread you XMR DICKS
July 15, 2016, 03:54:38 AM
uhmmm...
i really dont think icetroll really know anything about investing... because 8% per year is quite just about medium-high yield for investment. its far from being mission impossibro as he was trying to say.
https://www.auction.com/blog/how-to-calculate-roi-on-residential-rental-property/
http://observationsandnotes.blogspot.co.id/2009/03/average-annual-stock-market-return.html
http://blog.petetheplanner.com/what-rate-of-return-should-you-expect-on-your-investments/
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/060415/what-average-annual-return-typical-long-term-investment-real-estate-sector.asp
i really dont think icetroll really know anything about investing... because 8% per year is quite just about medium-high yield for investment. its far from being mission impossibro as he was trying to say.
https://www.auction.com/blog/how-to-calculate-roi-on-residential-rental-property/
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ROI on Residential Rental Property == 8% - 21%
http://observationsandnotes.blogspot.co.id/2009/03/average-annual-stock-market-return.html
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Since 2008 year-end trough after the housing bubble: 13.4% (10.5%, plus 2.9%)
For 2012 the stock market (Dow/DJIA) total return was 10.1% (7.3% plus 2.9%)
For 2012 the stock market (Dow/DJIA) total return was 10.1% (7.3% plus 2.9%)
http://blog.petetheplanner.com/what-rate-of-return-should-you-expect-on-your-investments/
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What do the charts show? Several things, but among the most important things you will see is that through 2014, the S&P 500 had an average annual return of 10.12% and the 20 year average is 9.85%.
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/060415/what-average-annual-return-typical-long-term-investment-real-estate-sector.asp
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Average annual returns in long-term real estate investing vary by the area of concentration in the sector. Average 20-year returns in the commercial real estate slightly outperform the S&P 500 Index, running at around 9.5%. Residential and diversified real estate investments do a bit better, averaging 10.6%. Real estate investment trusts (REITS) perform best, with an average annual return of 11.8%.
July 15, 2016, 03:41:01 AM
....8-15% ROI on yearly basis
As with any investment, it depends how you denominate it.
If I have £10,000 sterling and I invest in UK Guilts at 2% annual, then I can expect to see a "literal" 2% return. However, if I start with $10,000 and invest in Sterling denominated guilts, but want to measure my return in dollars then clearly I'd have to take into account the exchange rate with the dollar when measuring the return.
So, it's true that if you invest dollars or bitcoin in Dash and collateralise a masternode and continue to measure your return in dollars or bitcoin, then it's more like a risk asset and you'd have to take into account the exchange rate.
But that applies to any fixed income asset. The return on sovereign bonds are specified in the native denomination, not some other denomination. So on that basis it is reasonable to specify the return as a Dash-denominated growth on the principal investment which is - correctly stated as - 8-15%.
I think even Mrs Thatcher would have known that.
July 15, 2016, 03:29:24 AM
A reminder that our Shen (adam back) worshiping friends are here to pollute our little corner of the online world as part of the build up to any interest gained for DASH out of D10e and the next release.
They have a whole spreadsheet full of accounts to use for spam so not much we can do about it.
EDIT : remember their war cry 'there can only be one, in singularity we will be one and for monero we will fight as one'
They have a whole spreadsheet full of accounts to use for spam so not much we can do about it.
EDIT : remember their war cry 'there can only be one, in singularity we will be one and for monero we will fight as one'
OMG, how did you know about our top sekrit spreadsheet singularity doctrine?!
Who told you!?
Speaking of "interest gained", do you actually believe Dash Masternodes' promised "8-15% ROI on yearly basis" is anything HYIP snake oil?
July 15, 2016, 03:12:03 AM
wow nice site, btw i just teach them that dash is digital cash and monero is shitcoin LOL
July 15, 2016, 02:53:32 AM
July 15, 2016, 02:02:24 AM
http://dashpaymagazine.com/index.php/2016/07/13/dash-representation-d10e-san-francisco-2016/
anyone will leverage this technology
you can benefit personally from this new technology.
Masternodes present a 8-15% ROI on yearly basis.
anyone will leverage this technology
you can benefit personally from this new technology.
Masternodes present a 8-15% ROI on yearly basis.
Shameless HYIP marketing:
"You don't need to be a sophisticated accredited investor! Any rube can beat the market with this One Weird Trick!"
I can't believe d10e is destroying their credibility and reputation by giving such snake oil salesmanship a forum.
This is being reported to the proper State authorities.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/california-law/california-pyramid-and-ponzi-scheme-laws.html
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A pyramid scheme is also known as an "endless chain." It works like this. Someone offers you a quick way to "strike it rich" through their fraudulent business. You invest a certain amount of cash and get others (friends, relatives) to do the same. Your recruits get more people to join, and it continues like a chain letter. The problem is it can't really be "endless" because at some point you won't be able to find anyone else to join. The chain ends. The money stops coming in.
A Ponzi scheme is a variation of a Pyramid scam, but the difference is Frank Fraudster is only asking you to invest your money-not recruit anyone else.
But instead of paying investors with profits from actual investments, Frank Fraudster pays them with the cash given to him from new investors. When he runs out of new investors, again, everyone loses.
Why isn't this a Pyramid scheme? Because investors are unaware of what's happening and don't need to recruit new investors themselves. However, a Ponzi Scheme will fail for the same reason as a Pyramid Scheme.
A Ponzi scheme is a variation of a Pyramid scam, but the difference is Frank Fraudster is only asking you to invest your money-not recruit anyone else.
But instead of paying investors with profits from actual investments, Frank Fraudster pays them with the cash given to him from new investors. When he runs out of new investors, again, everyone loses.
Why isn't this a Pyramid scheme? Because investors are unaware of what's happening and don't need to recruit new investors themselves. However, a Ponzi Scheme will fail for the same reason as a Pyramid Scheme.
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Code Section Penal Code §319-329, specifically §327 (California's Endless Chain Scheme)
What is Prohibited? Contriving, preparing, setting up, proposing, or operating any endless chain scheme.
Type of Crime Felony or Misdemeanor -- varies on nature of the crime.
Punishment State Prison for 16 months, two or three years or up to one year in county jail, probation, fines, restitution, community service.
What is Prohibited? Contriving, preparing, setting up, proposing, or operating any endless chain scheme.
Type of Crime Felony or Misdemeanor -- varies on nature of the crime.
Punishment State Prison for 16 months, two or three years or up to one year in county jail, probation, fines, restitution, community service.
Only one California resident needs to "invest" and lose money in this Endless Chain Scheme to trigger an investigation.
The State AG isn't going to be amused by the ridiculous promise of "8-15% ROI" nor the obviously lottery-like aspects of Masternode rewards (especially the 1% chance for a double reward "Easter Egg").
https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company
July 15, 2016, 01:06:35 AM
Proposal: Core Development - 12.2 DashDrive Developers
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-core-development-12-2-dashdrive-developers.9732/
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-core-development-12-2-dashdrive-developers.9732/
July 15, 2016, 12:07:04 AM
Ok everyone. We've had our laughs and pokes at the local pet trolls. We're all pro's here...we've been threw this a dozen times in the past. Please set these trolls on ignore and save us the grief of having to see their names popping up...PLEASE.
Thanks....and by the way...hope everyone is having a great summer thus far! Go out and enjoy the sun shine! Cheers.
Thanks....and by the way...hope everyone is having a great summer thus far! Go out and enjoy the sun shine! Cheers.
July 14, 2016, 10:47:55 PM
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