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legendary
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why they didn't deliver? why empty promises?

and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

who's "they" ....the RATS who can't even code...but can spam this this thread like there's no tomorrow.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
For the sake of closure - every story needs an ending.     Smiley

My BTC client has now synced up after two hours, 27 minutes (started two weeks out of sync), very much slower than the DASH client, as expected.

CPU usage had peak bursts around 60% on a core i7, but was generally not bad. Download demand swamped my rural broadband capacity after about the first half hour, knocking several antminers offline. Disk usage seemed fairly steady at almost half a Gig(!) according to Task Manager - I'm not sure whether to believe that figure.

What several of us are reporting (I think) is that the BTC client has become very weak when it has to catch up. It is well-behaved once it is in sync, but it has become tempting to leave any BTC wallet "hot" or to stop using it altogether. Ouch!

I agree that this performance hit seemed to start at about the time of the "stress tests" (and the intense blocksize debate) but I have no opinions on actual causality - lots of variables in play. Anyway, BTC has a serious problem atm and DASH appears not to share it.



It is a bit of a lop-sided argument to claim that bitcoin's client/wallet syncs slower than Dash's.

The bitcoin transactional volume is probably 100 times bigger than Dash. For two weeks that's quite a bit of data to download.

What kind of data connection are you on?

Comparing the two are almost pointless as the amount of transactional volume Dash has is much smaller than Bitcoin collectively.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Empty promises:

This is just one aspect being developed:

Improvements over this mixing solution are due to include the following features:

* Master Nodes These nodes handle the mixing through random selection -
I'm implementing I2P into the masternodes. We're going to have our own private network just for DarkSend.
eduffield, 10 May 2014. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6643662

* Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2.
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I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.
eduffield, 12 May 2014. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6686819

*IP obfuscation 12 May 2014
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6694377

Fundamentals, gotta have those fundamentals  Wink





The thing is that he promises a lot and doesn't deliver.
...

Aha? Tell me only ONE example please.

Only thing a can rembember that isn't ready today is Two-factor authentication, but that has no priority.




Two-factor authentication is the only one pille can remember Sad In addition to the 4 in the previous post, what happened to Masternode blinding? github link below goes 404. Blinding was never implemented despite being "working", and despite Evan's promises that it was only being delayed due to mobile wallets


Masternode blinding is working   Grin

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding



There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.


************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.



The new masternode blinding system is SO impressive he couldn't figure out how to implement it  Sad

Instead, Evan decided to tell everyone Masternode blinding is delayed due to excuses, then never speak about it again.

#FAIL
#LIES


From the outside looking in it appears that Evan does the following:

1. realizes that anonymity is the hot topic .......BETTER DEVELOP ANONYMOUS CODE!

2. anonymity dies down as a hot topic...make some excuse not to finish it fully

3. speed is now the current hot topic.... BETTER DEVELOP FAST TRANSACTION CODE

4. speed dies down as a hot topic..make some excuse not to finish it fully

5. scalability is the hot topic (given bitcoin's block size issue)...... BETTER DEVELOP SCALABLE CODE!

....

You can guess what is the next step...
legendary
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We took down Dash by posting negativity in their thread.

See.

Our crypto tech is better.

 Embarrassed


legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
***check the circle jerk guys' date registered..they may have created these new accounts for dash.like Minotaur26(feb 2014), bigr(jan 2014) lebubar(feb 2014) oblox(april 2014) tantestefana (first account) (jan 2014) BagHolder010 (aug 2014) ceti (april 2014) and most important TaoOfSaatoshi...all first post darkcoin..there maybe others or others that did not created new account/s.

Fuck off.

Hee hee, I'm mentioned again!  I like not feeling invisable..... er.... but what was the point?  I'm a circle jerker?  LOL.  Too funny!

Yeah, can I join the group too? I'm feeling left out!  Cheesy
Someone mention my name?
What? Where? Why?
Definitely Tao!

And a note, I got so rich on Dash/Darkcoin/Xcoin that my roof still leaks, actually worse, my windows still let the wind through the house (earthquake '94) and our pool is still leaking and in terrible shape because we made so much money!  I really enjoy living like this!  LOL.  And that's why I'm trying to help scam the world, not because I think this project is amazing and may very well change the world for the good, no, can't be that!
LOL. Thanks Tante! And it's nice to know you're living large off of the proceeds of the "scam"...
legendary
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***check the circle jerk guys' date registered..they may have created these new accounts for dash.like Minotaur26(feb 2014), bigr(jan 2014) lebubar(feb 2014) oblox(april 2014) tantestefana (first account) (jan 2014) BagHolder010 (aug 2014) ceti (april 2014) and most important TaoOfSaatoshi...all first post darkcoin..there maybe others or others that did not created new account/s.

Fuck off.

Hee hee, I'm mentioned again!  I like not feeling invisable..... er.... but what was the point?  I'm a circle jerker?  LOL.  Too funny!

Yeah, can I join the group too? I'm feeling left out!  Cheesy
Someone mention my name?
What? Where? Why?
Definitely Tao!

And a note, I got so rich on Dash/Darkcoin/Xcoin that my roof still leaks, actually worse, my windows still let the wind through the house (earthquake '94) and our pool is still leaking and in terrible shape because we made so much money!  I really enjoy living like this!  LOL.  And that's why I'm trying to help scam the world, not because I think this project is amazing and may very well change the world for the good, no, can't be that!
hero member
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Reported Sad

Indeed. Though it's not a moderator you're in need of, it's a dictionary.

Here's a helping hand..




adam white  Sad

Yup indeed... Good afternoon Adam Wink  we sooooo  missed your positive feedback here.. Lol.

Adam White -  Troll  Embarrassed
sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
Charts of the day,
http://coin.dance/charts
Some of the best charts to indicate true market conditions(hard to fake volume), look at Russia go go go Grin
I could see somewhere like Kenya or Nigeria being next in line for a bull run in Africa (after South Africa)
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
Hello all. I've opened a store that sells coffee and snacks in exchange for cryptocurrency - and we accept Dash! Please come check us out at http://www.cryptomercado.com - US customers only for right now. Thanks!

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/671049767573680128
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
Wow, a very informative thread this morning. I have a lot of material to share. Thanks to Minotaur and eduffield for their responses.
hero member
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WHY DO YOU CARE?  Seriously.  Cry


DASH is being marketed as "a direct competitor to Bitcoin"

People who love Bitcoin and believe in it are understandably opposed to standing idly by while an instamine scam shitcoin like DASH and its deceptive and greedy developers continue their marketing efforts.

Anyway, why do you care that anyone cares? I thought all publicity was good publicity. Are you not enjoying all the free publicity?


Dash is contributing to Bitcoin by experimenting in a different direction without affecting BTC. If the Dash experiments turn out to be positive then Bitcoin can learn from them without taking any of the risks Dash is taking in the process of development.  I don't know who you have been talking to, but a lot of early bitcoiners I know personally, appreciate that Dash is experimenting and trying new things as that is good for the industry in general.

People who love crypto just want to see the industry succeed and appreciate new developments wherever they come from.


The only thing Dash is experimenting with is how to fleece the crypto community most effectively. I think Gmaxwell said it best:

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From what I can tell the only purpose DarkCoin serves is to depress me about the state of humanity. -gmaxwell
legendary
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WHY DO YOU CARE?  Seriously.  Cry


DASH is being marketed as "a direct competitor to Bitcoin"

People who love Bitcoin and believe in it are understandably opposed to standing idly by while an instamine scam shitcoin like DASH and its deceptive and greedy developers continue their marketing efforts.

Anyway, why do you care that anyone cares? I thought all publicity was good publicity. Are you not enjoying all the free publicity?


Dash is contributing to Bitcoin by experimenting in a different direction without affecting BTC. If the Dash experiments turn out to be positive then Bitcoin can learn from them without taking any of the risks Dash is taking in the process of development.  I don't know who you have been talking to, but a lot of early bitcoiners I know personally, appreciate that Dash is experimenting and trying new things as that is good for the industry in general.

People who love crypto just want to see the industry succeed and appreciate new developments wherever they come from.
hero member
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And any progress news about the new website?



About the new website it is going well, although right now the focus is on preparing materials and the presentation for the upcoming conference.  On the website, I think we will have time for community discussion and feedback too we are shooting for early next year but it has a lower priority than the the Bitcoin Miami presentation and Evolution development so that takes precedence.




From Dastalk.org  https://dashtalk.org/threads/october-2015-budget-proposal.6234/

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Website and Design - $5000+ - Part 1 of 2

We have contracted a company to design our new fancy website and develop the software to run it. This is going to be quite the improvement over our existing website and we look forward to showing everyone!

Once we have the website built, we will ask for a second budget to reimburse the rest of the money that was spent.



You have already collected $5000 for this proposal, now suddenly it is "lower priority" ?

Why would your conferences hinder website development thats been contracted out to a third party?




What I said is that is a lower priority for us than the Bitcoin Miami conference because it is, the conferences represent a prime opportunity to educate important influencers in the industry about the project and those are one time events within the next 2 months while we have a working website that we want to improve.  

I don't know how you work with third parties in your own business but in my experience it requires the project owner to be able to communicate what he wants and work actively with the third parties. We have so far received a couple of design samples and are waiting for two more new options and that is only the graphic design part.  We are also hoping for community feedback and discussion once we  have something to share, but at this point in time our complete focus is on the LATAM conference as we leave for Mexico in a few days.

Thanks for the concern though, I am sure you would do a better job coordinating community projects but since you won't help us, we are doing the best we can.





I don't know how you conduct business but in my experience the project owner's wants are outlined clearly to the third party, well before asking investors for funding. If you haven't even gotten far enough into discussions with the third party to determine your wants, what did you base your website development cost estimates on?
hero member
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WHY DO YOU CARE?  Seriously.  Cry


DASH is being marketed as "a direct competitor to Bitcoin"

People who love Bitcoin and believe in it are understandably opposed to standing idly by while an instamine scam shitcoin like DASH and its deceptive and greedy developers continue their marketing efforts.

Anyway, why do you care that anyone cares? I thought all publicity was good publicity. Are you not enjoying all the free publicity?
legendary
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Trolls are good for one thing and one thing only :

Providing a good laugh once a while to anyone reading this forum


Unifying and strenghtening a community


For sacrifice purposes, to appease the crypto gods


To put on ignore




One thing? Where did you learn to count?  Grin
Back, you troll!  Cheesy Cheesy Grin
legendary
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let's play the coins game  Grin

as if the instamine was not enough..evan and his crew still want to compete with the GPU miners and milk darkcoin with their CPU amazon EC2 miners...no need to cripple miners..lets just cripple darkcoin code and favor CPU.



masternodes concept was posted in feb 21 2014 ..how early was was it in their minds?january 2014? hmmm.

coins emitted february 14, 2014 is 3,276,169




coins now November 30, 2015 is 6M

right now masternodes are still competing with GPU mining for coins......up until now only stupid people are mining.

how many coins did they get? a fuckin LOT




now.. the fishy game Grin


***check the circle jerk guys' date registered..they may have created these new accounts for dash.like Minotaur26(feb 2014), bigr(jan 2014) lebubar(feb 2014) oblox(april 2014) tantestefana (first account) (jan 2014) BagHolder010 (aug 2014) ceti (april 2014)...all first post darkcoin..there maybe others or others that did not created new account/s.

no wonder vertoe is asking..who the hell are these guys?....the foundation members...etc


So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...

I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.

There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'.

It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money.

The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard.

no.

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

good luck


vertoe was used in my opinion/theory......the big thing?

question: what is the exit strategy for the big thing? 100 million $ 200 million $ ....mark karpeles choose millions of $ gotcha  Grin Grin


gonna sleep now in the other side of the globe...good morning there.
legendary
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And any progress news about the new website?



About the new website it is going well, although right now the focus is on preparing materials and the presentation for the upcoming conference.  On the website, I think we will have time for community discussion and feedback too we are shooting for early next year but it has a lower priority than the the Bitcoin Miami presentation and Evolution development so that takes precedence.




From Dastalk.org  https://dashtalk.org/threads/october-2015-budget-proposal.6234/

Quote
Website and Design - $5000+ - Part 1 of 2

We have contracted a company to design our new fancy website and develop the software to run it. This is going to be quite the improvement over our existing website and we look forward to showing everyone!

Once we have the website built, we will ask for a second budget to reimburse the rest of the money that was spent.



You have already collected $5000 for this proposal, now suddenly it is "lower priority" ?

Why would your conferences hinder website development thats been contracted out to a third party?



What I said is that is a lower priority for us than the Bitcoin Miami conference because it is, the conferences represent a prime opportunity to educate important influencers in the industry about the project and those are one time events within the next 2 months while we have a working website that we want to improve.  

I don't know how you work with third parties in your own business but in my experience it requires the project owner to be able to communicate what he wants and work actively with the third parties. We have so far received a couple of design samples and are waiting for two more new options and that is only the graphic design part.  We are also hoping for community feedback and discussion once we  have something to share, but at this point in time our complete focus is on the LATAM conference as we leave for Mexico in a few days.

Thanks for the concern though, I am sure you would do a better job coordinating community projects but since you won't help us, we are doing the best we can.



sr. member
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To all of you Monero people in our DASH thread:   If you aren't invested here, WHY DO YOU CARE?  Seriously.  All of this misdirected energy should be used in marketing for your own favorite project.  

I just had a revelation...... DASH IS your favorite project and you are pushing DASH's (huge and growing) development team to make it better.  I'm amazed I didn't consider this before.  It's really the only logical reason.

In any event DASH will succeed, XMR possibly might waaaay down the road if development isn't abandoned.  How many Monero developers are active and how many on that team do it full time after they quit their real jobs?  I'm not talking about lifelong basement dwellers who quit their McD's drive through positions either.

Anyone without an agenda can see through the idiocy that keeps getting regurgitated by the XMR fans, so keep bumping the DASH ANN thread we DO appreciate it.
sr. member
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Notice how all of them come from one coin sad haters  Huh this what happens when u have a coin that didn't have any development since they copied their crap from Bytecoin...low grade developers man no wonder they are hating.
legendary
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To implement IP obfuscation it would push Evolution back about 2-3 months, then we would use it in v12 for about a year, then throw it out as soon as evolution came along, then I would have to redo the work again....What sense does that make?

We've had this discussion before and in a practical sense, trying to protect the IP addresses of the existing masternodes is pretty pointless when there is a high probability that owners aren't magically going to set up a new instance to get a fresh IP... rather sticking with their existing IP and as such, the masternode list of IPs is already easily available.
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