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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1750. (Read 9724097 times)

legendary
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The cool thing is Evan never gets his feathers ruffled (well, unless he's excited about code, LOL) and is always nice and polite.

Agreed. In that vein, it might be useful to address the five latest troll-claims prominently in the OP and patiently point newbies there every time the trolls attack.
There is some reason the trolls keep pounding away here even though most of us have them on Ignore. People suggest they are targeting newbies, and that certainly might be the case although it seems that most of the newbie post action here is from troll puppet hit and run accounts. Maybe the real newbies lurk and read for a long time before wading in, in which case the trolls might actually have an audience to justify their amazing time investment.

A partly-baked draft of the kind of "permanent" rebuttal I mean - I'm sure the team can do it better:

1. See Evan's approach of pointing out what happened re the instamine (over and over and over) - it is what it is, and newbies can accept it or walk away - there is no coercion to use the coin (unlike fiat).

2. The MNs give an incentive to hold more - that is very different from "an unfair advantage to large holders". Anyone at all can join the MN (partial) owner club, whether or not they have 1000 or more coins. The concept is analogous to the now-archaic practice of banks paying interest for the use of your money - the network pays MN owners for their investment. Demonizing this practice is quite a stretch!

3. The claim that MNs are not decentralized is a semantic trick, and the implied "be afraid, be very afraid" element is a psychological trick. Consider - the American acronym-agencies allegedly spy on anything and everything. There is no particular reason to think they pay more attention to Amazon AWS than to anything else. That said, increased diversity is of course wise. As for semantic trickery, there is but one planet Earth (centralized), one Internet (centralized), one group of Dash users (centralized), blah blah. Centralization is in the eye of the beholder, but Dash grows more decentralized every day.

4. This is another "be afraid" ploy, but it is worth thinking about. The claim is that if you hold a MN (or a portion of one?) you might be harassed by future AML laws in some jurisdiction or other. True - you might - there is no way to know what witch-hunts may appear in the future. Now what - what follows from that? It is dangerous to get out of bed in the morning. It is also dangerous to remain in bed. In any case, the troll-claim here (mixing is bad) is contradictory to troll-claim 5 (not mixing is bad).

5. The "mixing is slow" claim is a useful improvement tip. It is semantically loaded though - "slow" compared to what? Regardless, it is used to assert the consequent that mixing is not the default (true, I think) and that therefore fungibility is an issue (true, I think). I seem to remember seeing suggestions for this issue such as "keep mixing running in background", but I haven't paid close enough attention to the details. I'm sure the team is working on it though.
 

That is a great post. Thanks for saving me the typing - I'll go off and do something useful now  Wink

legendary
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Is there going to be a video recording of the meetup/talks put up anywhere? Anyone know when? Smiley

Yes, but the recording was professionally done by the organizers, and it's up to them to put it up online.  They promised to do so as quickly as they can, but as Tungfa has said elsewhere, it's their show.  Though they understand we're all dying to see it Smiley
legendary
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Does anyone have the same problem that I'm having?

Its been 2 days that the Dash Core is saying "4 weeks behind" and can't process blocks.

I'm using Dash Core version v0.11.2.23-g9646c5f-beta (32-bit)

Is there anything to do?

Thanks.

Because this is a developing coin, lots of stuff happens, and we've hard forked since version 11.  We're now on 0.12.0.55.  You can be on earlier versions of version 12, but you might find things don't work well, so I highly recommend going with the very latest version which you can download at dashpay.io

Make sure you delete your .dash folder items EXCEPT your .conf file and your wallet.dat file.  With your wallet closed, before upgrading, make a copy of your wallet.dat file as a backup. Then start your wallet and let it sync up.  It should be quick and easy Smiley

dont delete, just rename .dash folder to .dash.backup just to be sure. then create new .dash folder, copy .conf file and your wallet.dat from backup to it. run latest wallet.

member
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I think it is working now, the blocks are beeing updated Cheesy

Thanks guys
sr. member
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I have more than one address, when I uopdate Dash Core I'll lose them?


Thanks.

ALL your addresses are stored inside 'wallet.dat', make sure you have several backups of it in different locations. Update Dash Core will not make you lose anything.
legendary
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Cryptanalyst castrated by his government, 1952

The cool thing is Evan never gets his feathers ruffled (well, unless he's excited about code, LOL) and is always nice and polite.

Agreed. In that vein, it might be useful to address the five latest troll-claims prominently in the OP and patiently point newbies there every time the trolls attack.
There is some reason the trolls keep pounding away here even though most of us have them on Ignore. People suggest they are targeting newbies, and that certainly might be the case although it seems that most of the newbie post action here is from troll puppet hit and run accounts. Maybe the real newbies lurk and read for a long time before wading in, in which case the trolls might actually have an audience to justify their amazing time investment.

A partly-baked draft of the kind of "permanent" rebuttal I mean - I'm sure the team can do it better:

1. See Evan's approach of pointing out what happened re the instamine (over and over and over) - it is what it is, and newbies can accept it or walk away - there is no coercion to use the coin (unlike fiat).

2. The MNs give an incentive to hold more - that is very different from "an unfair advantage to large holders". Anyone at all can join the MN (partial) owner club, whether or not they have 1000 or more coins. The concept is analogous to the now-archaic practice of banks paying interest for the use of your money - the network pays MN owners for their investment. Demonizing this practice is quite a stretch!

3. The claim that MNs are not decentralized is a semantic trick, and the implied "be afraid, be very afraid" element is a psychological trick. Consider - the American acronym-agencies allegedly spy on anything and everything. There is no particular reason to think they pay more attention to Amazon AWS than to anything else. That said, increased diversity is of course wise. As for semantic trickery, there is but one planet Earth (centralized), one Internet (centralized), one group of Dash users (centralized), blah blah. Centralization is in the eye of the beholder, but Dash grows more decentralized every day.

4. This is another "be afraid" ploy, but it is worth thinking about. The claim is that if you hold a MN (or a portion of one?) you might be harassed by future AML laws in some jurisdiction or other. True - you might - there is no way to know what witch-hunts may appear in the future. Now what - what follows from that? It is dangerous to get out of bed in the morning. It is also dangerous to remain in bed. In any case, the troll-claim here (mixing is bad) is contradictory to troll-claim 5 (not mixing is bad).

5. The "mixing is slow" claim is a useful improvement tip. It is semantically loaded though - "slow" compared to what? Regardless, it is used to assert the consequent that mixing is not the default (true, I think) and that therefore fungibility is an issue (true, I think). I seem to remember seeing suggestions for this issue such as "keep mixing running in background", but I haven't paid close enough attention to the details. I'm sure the team is working on it though.
 
newbie
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Is there going to be a video recording of the meetup/talks put up anywhere? Anyone know when? Smiley
sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
Does anyone have the same problem that I'm having?
Its been 2 days that the Dash Core is saying "4 weeks behind" and can't process blocks.
I'm using Dash Core version v0.11.2.23-g9646c5f-beta (32-bit)
Is there anything to do?
Thanks.
Yer I got stuck around that point on an old wallet, you should be alright upgrading,make a couple of backups on a memory stick first, before upgrading to V12 just in case.
Delete your peers and mncache, and if that doesn't work, delete everything apart from the wallet and do a fresh installation.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
Does anyone have the same problem that I'm having?

Its been 2 days that the Dash Core is saying "4 weeks behind" and can't process blocks.

I'm using Dash Core version v0.11.2.23-g9646c5f-beta (32-bit)

Is there anything to do?

Thanks.

Because this is a developing coin, lots of stuff happens, and we've hard forked since version 11.  We're now on 0.12.0.55.  You can be on earlier versions of version 12, but you might find things don't work well, so I highly recommend going with the very latest version which you can download at dashpay.io

Make sure you delete your .dash folder items EXCEPT your .conf file and your wallet.dat file.  With your wallet closed, before upgrading, make a copy of your wallet.dat file as a backup. Then start your wallet and let it sync up.  It should be quick and easy Smiley
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Does anyone have the same problem that I'm having?

Its been 2 days that the Dash Core is saying "4 weeks behind" and can't process blocks.

I'm using Dash Core version v0.11.2.23-g9646c5f-beta (32-bit)

Is there anything to do?

Thanks.

Not sure but you probably need to update to a more recent version, on 0.12 now:
https://www.dashpay.io/downloads/

I have more than one address, when I uopdate Dash Core I'll lose them?


Thanks.
hero member
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Its XMR. He is obviously covering up his real true identity. Underneath, that's Brad Pit, would be my guess. But who knows. Superior cloaking device tech, and all that.
I know him, haha  Grin (nope, won't disclose anything)
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Does anyone have the same problem that I'm having?

Its been 2 days that the Dash Core is saying "4 weeks behind" and can't process blocks.

I'm using Dash Core version v0.11.2.23-g9646c5f-beta (32-bit)

Is there anything to do?

Thanks.
legendary
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legendary
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the monxxo way...
use a staple, print your papers at home and pin them together

Jes'z. How sad does someone have to be to come out with such self righteous bile. I can't believe anyone would actually think that handing out that kind of stuff is going to help their cause.



The technology behind Monero was designed BY and FOR the NSA. That's why its big sell is "privacy" over everything else. The financial equivalent of the Patriot Act - forfeit all the accountability of a trustless technology for the sake of (so called) 'privacy' which could be compromised as hell by a single agent and no-one would even know about it.

Thats why only a few gullible religious fanatics would ever swallow it as being a viable public commodity.

Let such anoraks sneak around with their little flyers and toxic propaganda. They're only atrophying their own community and their marketcap with it.

hero member
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Outright lied about the launch time
No he didn't.

Scam instamined nearly 1.5 million coins in 8 hours  
No he didn't. Stop lying.

Reduced the block reward from 500 to 5 after the fraudulent instamine
Fixed a bug in the algorithm? Yup.

Reduced total supply from 84 million to 21 million after the fraudulent instamine
Made a decision that benefited all current and future investors by not letting the inflation dilute its value? Yup.
sr. member
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"guy has atleast 1000 masternodes"

Well that's a blatant lie first off..

Also still waiting for you to answer my question: who are the victims of your "scam" and what is the value of their losses.

I guess, you and Icebreaker and sockpuppets, trying to push your wannabe-coin, are the only actual scammers here Wink
legendary
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He embarrassed himself by huffing and blowing about stuff he didn't understand, while Evan cool as a cucumber patiently answered all his obvious leading questions.
One person that was getting riled was Otoh, I think he wanted to go and have a little mano a mano chat with him but it didn't happen in end Roll Eyes

Karma.  She's gunna be a bitch to them.

The cool thing is Evan never gets his feathers ruffled (well, unless he's excited about code, LOL) and is always nice and polite.
sr. member
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What a high troll pressure! WOW!
You mean "pressure" as in a hedgehog leaning on a bear ?
Yes, hahah. But obviously goal is to revert new users from DASH. Firing from all arms. So sad...

I would be dead against DASH handing flyers out at a MonXXo talk, especially one that looks like my kid made it, talking about a dice game.  So unprofessional...... and whats hilarious is that they can't even see that.
He embarrassed himself by huffing and blowing about stuff he didn't understand, while Evan cool as a cucumber patiently answered all his obvious leading questions.
One person that was getting riled was Otoh, I think he wanted to go and have a little mano a mano chat with him but it didn't happen in end Roll Eyes

Karma.  She's gunna be a bitch to them.
sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
Evan,
I just want to say, it was a pleasure to meet (most) of the core team, you guys are driven, focused, connected and highly mobile(willing to travel from as far away as Panama!) this shows how dedicated and professional you all are, I have the utmost confidence in you and am proud to be classed as a peripheral part of the team.
The next year of development will be even more astounding than the last one and the last one was pretty damn astounding  Grin

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Wau! Instead of being better than DASH they try to ridicule us... So low!  They have nothing good to say about themselfes, create a flyer and say nothing about their own coin but concentrate on DASH....  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  They also should have made a picket outside with posters saying "Instamine"! Smiley  With Eudardo de Castrato (AKA- icebucket, Hashfast scammer) as a lead! Smiley
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