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qwizzie

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Quote from: GhostPlayer on October 08, 2015, 12:06:22 PM

I absolutely LOVE all the trolling !! Cheesy

It's becoming so comical I truly truly come here to take a break from daily shenanigans.

LOL!! Trollero actually went with anti-Dash propaganda to a meetup? Along with a free lottery handout ?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

i was there and tbh you could pretty much hear all the people in there sighhh when that dude just kept pushing the instamine topic
and getting rather emotional about it too. The free lottery and anti-Dash got totally pass me, i guess he noticed i was a Dash fan and just
skipped me altogether. To be honest the first thing that popped up in my head when i heard him speak was .. oh no.. who invited Adam White ? Grin

(no offence Adam)

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Quote from: qwizzie on October 08, 2015, 12:01:27 PM

hmmm, to go or not to go ? Undecided

(i happen to have a free day tomorrow)
decisions, decisions, decisions......

edit : looks like i made the decision for me (not that many chairs left to think long about it anyways)

You gotta go, we need live cryptic updates and photo expo coverage, and I accidentally booked the flight back too early, so its down to you now Grin

TIA.

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Quote from: toknormal on October 08, 2015, 11:46:33 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on October 08, 2015, 11:27:11 AM

Are you saying we shouldn't put those arguments up on the OP? Thing is, if it's there, one could assume that newbies could find the relevant information easily for themselves. We could also answer back on the forum, please read the OP. I don't think it looks bad on us to admit to the instamine, and to explain how it actually benefited the project.

I wouldn't bother, for 2 reasons:

[1] - there is no case to answer as far as the 'instamine' is concerned. A badly launched coin can be a far more secure and viable investment than a so called 'well launched' one - in fact most "well launched" coins have been utter disasters as a long term investment. The only reason it gets thrown in our faces is that it's all there is for those who are attempting to push their own competing agendas, most of which have 'scam factors' that are far more terminal than Dash's early fastmine. None of those are going to go on the header of an ANN thread, you can be sure of that.

[2] - Dash's future markets are not the readers of bitcointalk. They are commercial economic sectors who will adopt a cryptocurrency on grounds of pure economic advantage - nothing else. If a monetary media can demonstrate a proven profitability in a sector, it will get used. If it doesn't it won't. Dash's mission is to acquire the technological properties that deliver such a gain. It has jack to do with the launch.

All those instamine spammers make me sick.

Many on these forums expect a dev with a brilliant mind and good work ethic to just create something and for some reason...not have some for themselves. The work these guys do in a month is on par or even more than most other *devs do in a year. Do you as users pay his salary? NO, do you as users make any contributions to the devs monetary needs? or even just token compensation for the time spent and talents used? Yet you expect him to work for free? Anyone who complains about the claimed instamine be it intentional or otherwise is lacking in intelligence and basic reasoning. Tell me, what should motivate the dev then if he doesn't have vested interest in the project?......his kind heart perhaps? While you go wild screaming "Moon, Moon"! ?

Just be happy the devs are there working their asses off everyday to bring you this service. You are literally going after a developer for partaking in of his invention.....his OPEN SOURCE invention.

GhostPlayer

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I absolutely LOVE all the trolling !! Cheesy

It's becoming so comical I truly truly come here to take a break from daily shenanigans.

LOL!! Trollero actually went with anti-Dash propaganda to a meetup? Along with a free lottery handout ?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

ddink7

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 08, 2015, 11:33:00 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on October 08, 2015, 11:27:11 AM

Quote from: BlockaFett on October 08, 2015, 11:18:18 AM

In the petty battle to get attention for a certain other coin, the trolls are winning - because instead of talking about the new Dash innovation and development, everyone is now talking about the "instamine", and that other coin - so in that sense they are winning.

Why should Dash divert everything now and try to defend against this fake attack and start changing our literature?

That's exactly what they want - if you remember, Monero dev Smooth was here recently threatening to post a daily "warning" here unless "the media" started to report the Dash "instamine" - now look where we are.

The real battle, is developing innovative software that makes people's lives better, and Dash is obviously the winner here, and that is what will count in the end.

I don't think anyone here really needs to give a damn about these trolls because their incentive is to pump their coin through massive trolling instead of having to put effort into innovating something, and certainly not keep talking about the issues they are raising - it's just a typical BCT organized, fake, paid attack - that will just be a sidenote in history of some failed coin that couldn't develop the right software.

EDIT: Wow - just as I post that, look ^ who happens to pop in lol Wink

Are you saying we shouldn't put those arguments up on the OP? Thing is, if it's there, one could assume that newbies could find the relevant information easily for themselves. We could also answer back on the forum, please read the OP. I don't think it looks bad on us to admit to the instamine, and to explain how it actually benefited the project.

Yes - because it's been covered 100s of times already, it's not an issue coming from Dash users but from external trolls, and that is the exact strategy that this group, led by a certain "developer", want.....

....without these attacks, Dash would be just focused 100% on innovation.

But by spamming "instamine" literally thousands of times on BCT, exchanges, and even in real life now, they are slowing Dash development down.

And they are doing it, because it's the only attack vector they have, in lieu of being able to compete on a technical or commercial level - trying to find any weakness, and making people panic about that.

It's just a side show, forget the newbies on BCT, let the Dash team just build this thing and let's get into the mainstream. I don't think anything else matters. Just link Evan's explanation to the instamine if anyone wants it, and lets carry on...

(just my opinion Cheesy

)

The trolling doesn't seem to slowing anybody down except for the members here who are obsessed with the trolls. Just put them on ignore. I did. They no longer bother me even a little bit, because I can't see their lies =)

qwizzie

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Quote from: tungfa on October 08, 2015, 08:42:47 AM

Holland FinTech
tomorrow October 9, 2015
3:30 PM to 6:30 PM !

Wink

http://www.meetup.com/Holland-FinTech-Meetup/events/219713936/

hmmm, to go or not to go ? Undecided

(i happen to have a free day tomorrow)
decisions, decisions, decisions......

edit : looks like i made the decision for me (not that many chairs left to think long about it anyways)

smooth

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Quote from: toknormal on October 08, 2015, 11:13:38 AM

Quote from: Sub-Ether on October 08, 2015, 10:40:31 AM

what happens if even 1% of the whole world started using it? Roll Eyes

Well there's already 22 people in the United States running their own wallets.

That's also wrong. Those are currently active reachable nodes. In fact most people using a wallet won't keep their node up all the time, only when they are actually using it for transactions, and most end user nodes don't end up being reachable because they are behind a router/NAT/etc.

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on October 08, 2015, 11:27:11 AM

Are you saying we shouldn't put those arguments up on the OP? Thing is, if it's there, one could assume that newbies could find the relevant information easily for themselves. We could also answer back on the forum, please read the OP. I don't think it looks bad on us to admit to the instamine, and to explain how it actually benefited the project.

I wouldn't bother, for 2 reasons:

[1] - there is no case to answer as far as the 'instamine' is concerned. A badly launched coin can be a far more secure and viable investment than a so called 'well launched' one - in fact most "well launched" coins have been utter disasters as a long term investment. The only reason it gets thrown in our faces is that it's all there is for those who are attempting to push their own competing agendas, most of which have 'scam factors' that are far more terminal than Dash's early fastmine. None of those are going to go on the header of an ANN thread, you can be sure of that.

[2] - Dash's future markets are not the readers of bitcointalk. They are commercial economic sectors who will adopt a cryptocurrency on grounds of pure economic advantage - nothing else. If a monetary media can demonstrate a proven profitability in a sector, it will get used. If it doesn't it won't. Dash's mission is to acquire the technological properties that deliver such a gain. It has jack to do with the launch.

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on October 08, 2015, 11:27:11 AM

Quote from: BlockaFett on October 08, 2015, 11:18:18 AM

In the petty battle to get attention for a certain other coin, the trolls are winning - because instead of talking about the new Dash innovation and development, everyone is now talking about the "instamine", and that other coin - so in that sense they are winning.

Why should Dash divert everything now and try to defend against this fake attack and start changing our literature?

That's exactly what they want - if you remember, Monero dev Smooth was here recently threatening to post a daily "warning" here unless "the media" started to report the Dash "instamine" - now look where we are.

The real battle, is developing innovative software that makes people's lives better, and Dash is obviously the winner here, and that is what will count in the end.

I don't think anyone here really needs to give a damn about these trolls because their incentive is to pump their coin through massive trolling instead of having to put effort into innovating something, and certainly not keep talking about the issues they are raising - it's just a typical BCT organized, fake, paid attack - that will just be a sidenote in history of some failed coin that couldn't develop the right software.

EDIT: Wow - just as I post that, look ^ who happens to pop in lol Wink

Are you saying we shouldn't put those arguments up on the OP? Thing is, if it's there, one could assume that newbies could find the relevant information easily for themselves. We could also answer back on the forum, please read the OP. I don't think it looks bad on us to admit to the instamine, and to explain how it actually benefited the project.

Yes - because it's been covered 100s of times already, it's not an issue coming from Dash users but from external trolls, and that is the exact strategy that this group, led by a certain "developer", want.....

....without these attacks, Dash would be just focused 100% on innovation.

But by spamming "instamine" literally thousands of times on BCT, exchanges, and even in real life now, they are slowing Dash development down.

And they are doing it, because it's the only attack vector they have, in lieu of being able to compete on a technical or commercial level - trying to find any weakness, and making people panic about that.

It's just a side show, forget the newbies on BCT, let the Dash team just build this thing and let's get into the mainstream. I don't think anything else matters. Just link Evan's explanation to the instamine if anyone wants it, and lets carry on...

(just my opinion Cheesy

)

Icebucket

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Did not see this until today when I found a link to it on Dashtalk.

This is the most in depth explanation of the "instamine" I have come across and is quite informative.

http://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Give it a peek if you have some concerns Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 08, 2015, 11:18:18 AM

EDIT: Wow - just as I post that, look ^ who happens to pop in lol Wink

The response time is truly phenomenal, wish I could that kind of speedy response from my cable provider.
But you are right, lets focus on the work that needs to be done by all of us in the next few months, this can happen but the team needs our help as much as possible, lets do our bit

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 08, 2015, 11:18:18 AM

In the petty battle to get attention for a certain other coin, the trolls are winning - because instead of talking about the new Dash innovation and development, everyone is now talking about the "instamine", and that other coin - so in that sense they are winning.

Why should Dash divert everything now and try to defend against this fake attack and start changing our literature?

That's exactly what they want - if you remember, Monero dev Smooth was here recently threatening to post a daily "warning" here unless "the media" started to report the Dash "instamine" - now look where we are.

The real battle, is developing innovative software that makes people's lives better, and Dash is obviously the winner here, and that is what will count in the end.

I don't think anyone here really needs to give a damn about these trolls because their incentive is to pump their coin through massive trolling instead of having to put effort into innovating something, and certainly not keep talking about the issues they are raising - it's just a typical BCT organized, fake, paid attack - that will just be a sidenote in history of some failed coin that couldn't develop the right software.

EDIT: Wow - just as I post that, look ^ who happens to pop in lol Wink

Are you saying we shouldn't put those arguments up on the OP? Thing is, if it's there, one could assume that newbies could find the relevant information easily for themselves. We could also answer back on the forum, please read the OP. I don't think it looks bad on us to admit to the instamine, and to explain how it actually benefited the project.

BlockaFett

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In the petty battle to get attention for a certain other coin, the trolls are winning - because instead of talking about the new Dash innovation and development, everyone is now talking about the "instamine", and that other coin - so in that sense they are winning.

Why should Dash divert everything now and try to defend against this fake attack and start changing our literature?

That's exactly what they want - if you remember, Monero dev Smooth was here recently threatening to post a daily "warning" here unless "the media" started to report the Dash "instamine" - now look where we are.

The real battle, is developing innovative software that makes people's lives better, and Dash is obviously the winner here, and that is what will count in the end.

I don't think anyone here really needs to give a damn about these trolls because their incentive is to pump their coin through massive trolling instead of having to put effort into innovating something, and certainly not keep talking about the issues they are raising - it's just a typical BCT organized, fake, paid attack - that will just be a sidenote in history of some failed coin that couldn't develop the right software.

EDIT: Wow - just as I post that, look ^ who happens to pop in lol Wink

smooth

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Quote from: Sub-Ether on October 08, 2015, 10:40:31 AM

Quote from: toknormal on October 08, 2015, 08:31:02 AM

Thats why only a few gullible religious fanatics would ever swallow it as being a viable public commodity.

let such anoraks sneak around with their little flyers and toxic propaganda. They're only atrophying their own community and their marketcap with it.

Did you know that Monero can not be blockchain pruned because of ring signatures and so SPV wallets are off the table.

That's wrong. SPV wallets and pruning have nothing to do with each other. SPV wallets are certainly possible on Monero; the design is built with them in mind (though currently none yet exist).

Pruning is also possible (multiple ways in fact), but I'm not going to discuss how right now.

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Quote from: Sub-Ether on October 08, 2015, 10:40:31 AM

what happens if even 1% of the whole world started using it? Roll Eyes

Well there's already 22 people in the United States running their own wallets. I don't know how close to 1% of the world's population that is but it's nearly a whole classroom full of kids so I suppose scaleability is a worry.

Add to that all the recruits they get from passing out leaflets at Dash presentations and they might have a real problem on their hands Shocked

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Quote from: toknormal on October 08, 2015, 08:31:02 AM

Thats why only a few gullible religious fanatics would ever swallow it as being a viable public commodity.

let such anoraks sneak around with their little flyers and toxic propaganda. They're only atrophying their own community and their marketcap with it.

Did you know that Monero can not be blockchain pruned because of ring signatures and so SPV wallets are off the table. Can't see how its scalable with an already bloated blockchain as the liteweight wallets are somewhat tricky, what happens if even 1% of the whole world started using it? Roll Eyes

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