Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1773. (Read 9724017 times)

Why Open Bazaar is a uniquely natural fit for the Dash Network.

The Open Bazaar team are old fashioned in that they believe there should be no fees to use it.  But as Bitcoin and Dash have proven, no compensation = no hosts.  Dash already has a secure compensation setup and a secure - always on - network that can host Open Bazaar.  It could be voluntary or an integrated part of the Masternode network.  But should be compensated.  The compensation should of course be super minimal, especially when compared to current options for sellers.  IMO 1% charge would be extremely high. And this compares with Ebay/Paypal combo of nearly 15%

Like I said above, I'm a hobbyist who buys and sells.  Actually, I've stopped selling because it's just not worth it with the skimming of all profits and more by Ebay and Etsy and Paypal.  I was there when Etsy and many other auction type sites came up, and we moved to sell in these new market places hoping they would take.  Some didn't take, but I tell you, Etsy took because of little old ladies like myself and because they marketed themselves.

So I suggest that the best way to get Crypto Currencies used by the general population is to have a legal, international marketplace.  Market it every time we market Dash.  Accept different payment options by being inclusive, and using converting tools, like that little fox one???  Forgot their name ;P  Make it EASY to use!  Make it versatile!  Not just Bitcoin, not just Dash, but everything that makes sense with every service that wants to integrate.  It all will get converted to Dash to pay the Masternodes.  And if you use Dash, you have a more direct payment system with slightly less fees (as you won't need to use any of the conversion services)  So it will at the same time be more advantageous for Dash.

We could have the biggest marketplace the world has ever seen, with the lowest fees.  Believe me, build it and they will come.  Those little old lady crafters are FED UP!  I'm sure many others are too.  But I can assure you, I'll be marketing such a storefront system to all the crafting groups I belong to, and I belong to a lot of 'em.  But until there is something to use, I can't sell Dash to them, or any crypto currency.  It's all mumbo jumbo to them until they are motivated.  And believe me, they WILL be motivated if we build this!

It must suck having a troll account where one worked soo hard on,
only to find out the whole forum pretty much has you on ignore and
your so called "message" gets lost right after hitting the send button.

edit : hmmm, i guess your fud message did not get lost after all Adam .. you win  

1. A good habit as a speaker, is to repeat the question into the mic.

We've been speculating at dashtalk.org, but have come to no real conclusions other than we need to get marketing and the word out.  We also need a market place.  A regular, non-illegal market place.  In my opinion, something like Etsy would be fantastic.  Ebay and Etsy either take a huge cut of your sales or else require you to pay to advertise your wares so they can be found along with high fees.  Being a little old lady that's into little old lady shit, I know that we trade crafts internationally all the time, and using crypto would save us a ton of money.  But where to sell?

I think we need Open Bazaar actually working, and I can see it working on the Masternode network best.  These little old ladies are so frustrated with the difficulties of selling and having their tiny sales chopped 15% just for the privilege of selling, they've moved to other platforms many times.  In fact, Etsy's success is due to these same little old ladies.  So don't discount us!  We're motivated!

If you're posting it Tungfa, please post a rough cut as soon as you get it, and worry about a pretty version later??? Please!

Mangled Blue, you're always so vividly colorful when you're excited, LOL. I can't stop laughing!

A presentation at the monthly Bitcoin Wednesday meetup in Amsterdam where we have 4 presenters (I think, or more?) and Evan, our lead developer, said he will be revealing his plans for replacing DarkSend, our anonymity technology, with something that promises to be far better.  As well as other plans for the future of Dash. As I've stated above, I'm so excited I think I'm going to have a heart attack before I get to hear it!  Ugh!

 trolls fight, price plummets.

 Brilliant fund management indicator.

Thank you, makes perfect sense.

All I know is that they won't be fast enough.  I will surely have my heart attack before it is posted.  Man, I hope they have 3 backup cameras as well!  Dang it, I'm dying to see this!  UGH!

bumping....

Did you learn this through the hard way? As soon as TrueCryptonaire stopped buying Monero it crashed. Perhaps he was the last greater fool. Did you manage to sell your holdings to him when he was pumping or were you left holding the bag?

What a profound observation. LoL. Wish I'd thought of it 

hey holder Dash, don't be angry:)

it's true. XMR attacked Dash (icebrekaer mostly) and Dash attacked monero too lol. few weeks after - both coins went down.
I'm not a fun of Xmr or Dash and I don't hold any dash or xmr.
Just saying it is very funny to me

this was by far the dumbest comment i heard all week !
congrats !

Monero is going down and Dash - very good.

XMR/DASH fights and trolling few weeks both ways led to nothing but decrease value of both coins lol 

The reason I never bother posting in there is because it isn't a serious project in terms of cryptocurrency adoption and Cryptonote’s never been a threat to Dash (or Bitcoin) for 2 reasons:

[1] - it's a concept based on the credit money system which essentially performs a record-keeping function that requires privacy through obscurity, as opposed to a cash model which supports anonymity through fungibility (for a commentary on why it's important to function as cash before credit, see here)

[2] - given bitcoin's consolidation of its position over the alts last year and subsequent growth of its ecosystem, the prospects for any technology with a non-compliant commercial interface are almost non-existent now

The interesting thing is, iCEBREAKER must know this since he’s not altogether void of some understanding of the subject. Thats why I've never really entertained the idea that he believes his own b.s. and just assumed that he’s persuing some other purpose.

On the other hand there is a hard core of the mining community who have a kind of religious obsession with the sanctity of the emission curve over everything else and it could just be that he’s a fully paid up member of that ‘cult’. Which one it is doesn’t really matter because the fact is that in the history of monetary media, the market has always valued the properties of money far and away over how it came into being. Gold became money because it had the right monetary properties and the fact that a few Klondyke speculators ‘fastmined’ it and sold it into the market for dollars to non-miners only helped,not hindered, its adoption.

If the market had bought the idea that the credit-money privacy model was appropriate to a cryptocurrency, cryptonote would have blown away the top 5 market cap currencies months ago. It didn't, it hasn't and the challenge only gets harder from here. The GUI wallet stuff barely scratches the surface of its problems and is largely superficial compared to the challenges of attracting payment processors, mobile solutions and quality independent blockchain services to support you. Despite the boasts of support from “academics”, the fact is that it's “academic” that that type of book-keeping based privacy is destined for permanent "also ran" status other than as a bitcoin sidechain.

The iCEBREAKER agenda has therefore only 1 tool left its hype-box - that is to persue a single-issue wrecking agenda to attempt to get people to buy into his priorities at all costs. He does this by spreading lies, distortions and outright self serving fear propaganda. For example the idea that he takes credit for the failure of “XC, Neucoin, VNL et al” due to fudding is laughable. As has been pointed out, some of those projects are still successful and the ones that aren't failed for the single biggest reason that any alt coin fails (including the other 500 that he didn’t fud) i.e. They were not originals in their class.

Look at the top-10 market cap coins - save for the odd one that pops up occasionally for a time - they are all originals. They also exhibit a diversity of launches, few of which would be universally regarded as “ideal” by the wider public who have yet to encounter cryptocurrencies, and that includes Satoshi’s private 'test mine'. However it gets justified by the mining cult, it’s an “instamine” by any broader public standard.

As for the rest of iCEBREAKER’s agenda, no description I’ve seen does more justice to it than the closing quote below which should be required reading for everyone in this thread. For example he promotes the idea that obscuring the blockchain supports privacy and somehow “protects you from government”. Well our fiat bank accounts are similarly obscured and all that does is facilitate their corruption, hidden from public view. The fact that there’s no counterparty involved solves nothing - it just means there’s no-one to back the meaningless numbers in the invisible “accounts” anymore and that the emperor has even fewer clothes than before. What's needed is a blockchain  that is fully fungible, high performance, public and anonymous. Whatever amounts of FUD people like to post in this thread, last time I checked there was only 1 project pursuing all four of those 4 objectives and doing so with uncompromising determination.

As I say, I prefer to make constructive, analytical contributions to this thread rather than to be trashing other coins or other posters, except when they come here to regurgitate endless variations of the same self serving trash monologue of their own. And with that I'll leave you with my favourite quote of the week by which I trust iCEBREAKER & co will always be remembered  

I agree let's stop this hate and hope for both coins success instead.

If you are going to say something like that, come up with some concrete numbers. DASH is currently at ~0.009, that's ~36% of last top (~0.025). Monero is currently at ~0.00172, that's ~40% of the last top (~0.0043). Both are doing bad, but you can't really say one is doing worse than the other (in terms of price).

Hope there will be GOOD video footage this time, where you can actually hear the questions from the audience and such

Also, anyone have a clue about the recent dump? Bit suspicious that it happens just before the DEVS are starting some sort of promotion tour Before any XMR fudsters start, your coin is down more

NXT still traded on exchange, VNL still traded on exchange, even XC still traded on exchange. thats not a scam yet. what i talk about is banana coin, ghoul coin, crave coin.  google these coin if you will they are dead which mean dev run away and coin no longer traded on any exchange. why dont you warn  those investor early on. ?

never mind if you just want to hate dash, my question still remain :
if within this year, your fud doesnt happen would you mind fudding other coin which is an actual scam coin by scam dev ?

We just have to keep looking for it in those Monero trolls, dont give up on them yet 

Sounds like you really care About people so much you need to warn them.

Here in America we don't take kindly to people telling us where we can't waste our money!  We do it freely and if for some reason we make a few bucks back, wow cool.  That roller coaster was fun.

Las Vegas exist for a reason, people love to gamble.  We all love the thought of the quick win.

You'll never stop or convince anybody.