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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1794. (Read 9724017 times)

legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
I have to admit woozek that I like this idea very much.
legendary
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legendary
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...please put "DASH was instamined and this many coins were mined in the first X hours" on the front page of your website, forum, and threads.

Why should he do so? We have 4 or 5 forum trolls who repeat this all the time and nicely bump this thread.

We would lose them...

I can understand smoothie's concern because I equally think XMR's [ANN] thread should be headed up "Caution: This is a bookkeeping system, not a cryptocurrency", but I'm not holding my breath.

On the other hand, maybe he has a point and it would actually boost sales  Wink

sr. member
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Get this incredible sculpture for as little as 1.31 Dash...
74/256 tickets SOLD.
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Out of respect for GhostPlayer and his initiative I did not react on that Zoran's art thingy that annoys me greatly. (not the "art" per se, but the whole picture) So I've been thinking and decided that even this initiative can be used as an example how out of box thinking (my ISO 4217, IPO, DASH - CASH, DashPay etc. musings) might help us.

This guy (Zoran) was whining here for no one buys his art. He does not give a damn about DASH (granted, he needs to eat) and as he whined how no one is buying his art he said he'll have to go to Ethereum, Ripple etc. Enters the Ghost (player) and nobly tries to help. Let's say this works. Que bono? A buyer of the art for the lottery gives her or him something for 1.31 DASH instead of a full price. Zoran also profits for he sold something otherwise no one wants to buy.

Would not be a MUCH BETTER to approach this from a different angle (it could also keep the lottery thingy live for its fun) assuming his art is appreciated by the community here, there, anywhere:

-- Zoran organizes an exhibition, devoted to DASH and the "future of money" of his Art in Zagreb or wherever (he's from Croatia, not sure from which city) no matter how small the gallery or the exhibition space. It could be done almost for free, with a help of few friends I am sure;
-- Evan goes to the opening night (we pay, the lottery pays for his trip. Croatia is a beautiful country and he'd could use a respite) and talks about the DASH;
-- the Exhibition is therefore enriched. Zoran talks about his inspiration (crypto, financial freedom), a brief video, stitched, edited out of several we already have introduces the concept and Evan talks more about the DASH.

A freaking event. Journalists in small countries are enthralled by the geniuses from America so it would be covered, trust me on that. A video of the event, if planned smartly would be a welcomed addition to the promotional activities "in Europe." A nice publicity would echo at home and all over the world. Zoran would have his big entrance into the world of art and crypto and no one would call him a whiner, on the contrary. The community's money would be split and go for the Evan's (promotional) trip and Zoran's sculpture or paintings and everyone's happy.

Just my 2 cents. Trying to be constructive even when seriously miffed Smiley Smiley
newbie
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...please put "DASH was instamined and this many coins were mined in the first X hours" on the front page of your website, forum, and threads.

Why should he do so? We have 4 or 5 forum trolls who repeat this all the time and nicely bump this thread.

We would lose them...
sr. member
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Has anyone posted this great article here yet?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

As I watched Evan's video on the Virtual Corporation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJKZjTx9Bg I've been thinking about an IPO ("initial public offering," for the uninitiated).

DASH could ponder that route also:
-- Each Masternode would be a class "A" share;
-- IPO would issue common shares;
-- DASH token / coin / currency would still be a unit exchangeable for services and products (or other coins, fiat on currency exchanges) not unlike renminbi - yuan distinction (an official name of the currency and its units' denomination).

Therefore, another issue to ponder as we look what is the best route for DASH to be "widely adopted" would be ISO 4217 (currency codes) and SIX Interbank and see how to get DASH classified as a currency. (in the US we're already and "asset" based on the IRS ruling)

Mind you, we would not be the first ones to do so. I have no idea what has happened with their initiative (a quick Google search might reveal more) but bear this in mind: "The Bitcoin Foundation’s Financial Standards Working Group will focus on applying for ISO 4217 approval for a Bitcoin currency code as well as drawing up recommendations for a Bitcoin currency symbol and Bitcoin subunits."

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Edit: a link Tante posted or re-posted https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 is already a great document for the "financial disclosures." Anther route for DASH to gain traction would be to consider (Evan's transparency is an incredible valuable asset for such a move) Rule 506 of Regulation D private offering. MN as a share "A" -- and given that Rule 506 D stipulates you can't offer the shares to "non sophisticated investors" (i.e. those who can't afford to lose the money) the offer can and should be private. But the talk about it could be public Smiley
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legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
reposting this here as it is relevant:

So eduffield says the instamine wasn't a scam, i guess that's all the proof I need!  Roll Eyes

What do you expect, that's he'll admit it?

Was the instamine a scam? "Definitely not"

Ok now it insta crashes when I type "setgenerate true".

Time to go to bed and try again next week?


Yeah, let's do that. I obviously need to do some more testing. Thanks everyone!

Best thing to do I guess. Please, confirm you won't be launching after some minutes/hours even if you fix it, and the sooner would be tomorrow, thanks.

Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time.

Seeing a pattern?

Deceptive launch time, lack of windows wallets, the supposed "bug" that instamined over 23% of the total coins in circulation in 8 hours - anyone with brain sees exactly what happened here.


In regards to this: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

What is your response to this:

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If you don’t like that it was an instamine, that’s fine, go invest in something else.

If you don't like hearing criticism about your oops!stamined scamcoin, that's fine, go click on another thread.

I'm going to venture a guess. You bought the original hype about Darkcoin when it was $12-15 (when we had no technology and just ideas!), then it fell to $5 and you were looking for something to blame and learned about the instamine? You've been waiting for months for it to collapse and it's not (real next-gen technology, really amazing 50+ member team, 10000+ hours of work has been put into this project in the last 1.5 years). What are you going to do when you finally realize it's not a scam, then it takes off and no one cares about the instamine because the technology is whats important?

The whole instamine is over blown because every coin that's even moderately successful has founders with >5%. Dash is on the low end, our founders have way less coins than the Bitcoin devs, Ripple, etc. Bitcoin for example was unknown with a handful of miners for nearly 1-2 years, they mined 6 million coins during that time. Satoshi alone was thought to have 10%. Our entire team combined has less than 10% of the supply (current supply, not total). So what?

What about corporations? They all start out with "Instamines". Does that make every corporation in history a scam?

Okay so you put "NO PREMINE" on your thread title...

yet fail to mention the INSTAMINE on the front page of your thread and your website and forum.

If it isn't a problem and "corporations" instamine things why not openly advertise it as true and not disguise it as a version of crypto that is legitimate?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

MORESO....


I take 100% responsibility for the instamine as a bug and as a feature of Dash. As it turns out, all cryptocurrencies have founders with more than 5%. It's not "everybody does it", but "it's required for the success of a cryptocurrency".

If you are going to take 100% responsibility of the instamine bug when your coin launched then please put "DASH was instamined and this many coins were mined in the first X hours" on the front page of your website, forum, and threads. You should have no problem advertising it since you are taking responsibility for it.
legendary
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legendary
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i am not sure why anybody is even trying to have a serious discussion with these Trolls
there is no winning in this !
Ignore is the only thing you can do
as they do NOT listen to any facts / transparency / updates anyway !

So 'ignore' and lets move on
 Wink
legendary
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This is really cool, it shows when the idea was starting to take shape!  And funny, Sourceforge has also had a lot of trouble with scammers apparently.  Obviously, that's created difficulties for those who legitimately want to start a project.  Anyway, I have one question, why was this posted?  I just missed the reference.  Thanks!

link: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-development/thread/CAMkFLsSwKEiEtV1OaAsGPiU8iAWbb77fDNJDmRwbgKnZ_kjG6Q%40mail.gmail.com/#msg31793072


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[Bitcoin-development] Looking for GREAT C++ developer for exciting opportunity in bitcoin space
From: Evan Duffield - 2013-12-29 18:53:27
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Hello,

We’re a startup looking for 1 or 2 really good C++ programmer that is
familiar with the bitcoin internals to help with a for-profit startup.

We will be able to provide more information about the project after signing
a non-compete/non-disclosure agreement. Our coin will be one of the truly
unique coins that are not just a clone of the original Bitcoin code. In
short the project will be a merge-mined altcoin that will provide a very
useful service to the whole crypto-coin ecosystem.

If you have added any features to Bitcoin or related technologies this is a
definite bonus. Please include information about the work you’re done in
the space.

We have detailed plans on how to implement it and the roles we are looking
to fill. If interested please email eduffield82@... with a
description of your work experience and we’ll vett the applications and
share our plans to see if you’re interested.

Thanks,

Evan & Kyle
Hawk Financial Group, LLC

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hero member
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http://fuk.io - check it out!
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host

No wonder you are bitter and you need to grind away here to try and get the XMR price up.

Their regular Polo sugar daddy didn't turn up on time and the bottom's started falling out of XMR which is why they're all over here bouncing off the walls.

Please would said sugar daddy attend to business and get it back above 2 again so we can have some peace around here  Wink

Oh, I haven't watched it in a while, 0.00189, that smarts!

So their desperation is justified, but misguided attempts to attack us aren't going to help them hold the fort at home, though. Tough spot to be in, indeed. There's still small amounts of Dash available here and there which may serve as an escape route from the misery...we won't hold grudges.
legendary
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No wonder you are bitter and you need to grind away here to try and get the XMR price up.

Their regular Polo sugar daddy didn't turn up on time and the bottom's started falling out of XMR which is why they're all over here bouncing off the walls.

Please would said sugar daddy attend to business and get it back above 2 again so we can have some peace around here  Wink
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
The sideshow clowns are out in full force tonight...must be the blood moon. Well, it worked so well for you guys yesterday, got us two new investors! Keep up the good work boys! You really are making a difference, champs (or should I say chumps)!
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
[more off-topic ranting]

If your post was remotely related to Dash, it might be on topic.
legendary
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They're here again. BUY TIME!
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
[off-topic]

If your post was remotely related to Dash, it might be on topic.
legendary
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...get a life. Go visit family or something

That might be asking a bit much. The way his deranged posts have been going lately, a few lines of "Daisy Daisy" might be more realistic.


legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

Look who showed up .. the most unethical and pathetic crypto-dev in the entire history. Why are you here? Shouldn't you be ... erm.. developing for Monero?

Just for background info. "smooth" and "smoothie" and distinct.


 My bad.

 I hereby apologise to smoothie for the atrocious insult I bestowed upon him.

No worries. No offense taken.  Cool
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