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The Buck Stops Here.
I did the same thing, with Litecoin, when I first started! Freaked me out thinking that all my coins got stolen! Now I always reuse an existing address for change.

There is a it's a good idea to use fresh change addresses.
Although, we won't have to worry about the problem for years to come.

Once an address has been /sent from/ its public key is visible on the network.
Eventually, years from now, a quantum computer may be able to compute the private key of that address given it's public key.
But, since addresses are /hashes of/ public keys, un-sent-from addresses are not susceptible to this particular attack.
 
I've proposed for some time now a feature to be able to add a static change address to the config file. Obviously this has potential anonymity issues, but on the other side of the scope it brings great benefits for many different types of operations out there. Be it at a private or corporate level.  

The proper way to manage this is with deterministic address chains. (BIP32/BIP44)
Best of both worlds. Fresh addresses and absolute certainty your funds lie within your chain/your control.

 Agreed. But how do I implement this with the QT ? Is this currently possible, or a future possible feature ?

I think someone was working on this with Encompass.
legendary
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I did the same thing, with Litecoin, when I first started! Freaked me out thinking that all my coins got stolen! Now I always reuse an existing address for change.

There is a it's a good idea to use fresh change addresses.
Although, we won't have to worry about the problem for years to come.

Once an address has been /sent from/ its public key is visible on the network.
Eventually, years from now, a quantum computer may be able to compute the private key of that address given it's public key.
But, since addresses are /hashes of/ public keys, un-sent-from addresses are not susceptible to this particular attack.
 
I've proposed for some time now a feature to be able to add a static change address to the config file. Obviously this has potential anonymity issues, but on the other side of the scope it brings great benefits for many different types of operations out there. Be it at a private or corporate level.  

The proper way to manage this is with deterministic address chains. (BIP32/BIP44)
Best of both worlds. Fresh addresses and absolute certainty your funds lie within your chain/your control.

 Agreed. But how do I implement this with the QT ? Is this currently possible, or a future possible feature ?
sr. member
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I did the same thing, with Litecoin, when I first started! Freaked me out thinking that all my coins got stolen! Now I always reuse an existing address for change.

There is a it's a good idea to use fresh change addresses.
Although, we won't have to worry about the problem for years to come.

Once an address has been /sent from/ its public key is visible on the network.
Eventually, years from now, a quantum computer may be able to compute the private key of that address given it's public key.
But, since addresses are /hashes of/ public keys, un-sent-from addresses are not susceptible to this particular attack.
 
I've proposed for some time now a feature to be able to add a static change address to the config file. Obviously this has potential anonymity issues, but on the other side of the scope it brings great benefits for many different types of operations out there. Be it at a private or corporate level.  

The proper way to manage this is with deterministic address chains. (BIP32/BIP44)
Best of both worlds. Fresh addresses and absolute certainty your funds lie within your chain/your control.
legendary
Activity: 1092
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o the coins are technically still in my wallet, just under a different address? I'll have to look in my wallet when I get the chance. See if I can get it all squared away.

Thanks to those that replied.

Go into the console and type "listaddressgroupings" (after unlocking the wallet). That will show you your full balance with a breakdown by each address - in other words, you'll see all the change addresses that the wallet is currently using.

b.t.w. The first time I got caught out with this change address stuff - a couple of years ago when I first started trading bitcoin - it gave me a complete heart attack because I checked the balances on blockchain.info and saw that most of my funds were gone. I thought I had been robbed.

After that, I always sent the funds back to the "main address" OR created paper wallets for the change addresses. If you've got significant amounts parked at any address I would always at least create a paper wallet using "dumpprivkey" in addition to whatever backups of the wallet.dat you have. Keeps you conscious of things.

I did the same thing, with Litecoin, when I first started! Freaked me out thinking that all my coins got stolen! Now I always reuse an existing address for change.

 I've proposed for some time now a feature to be able to add a static change address to the config file. Obviously this has potential anonymity issues, but on the other side, it brings great benefits for many different types of operations out there. Be it at a private or at a corporate level.

 Think: redundant long/short cold/backup address safe keep.  
legendary
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o the coins are technically still in my wallet, just under a different address? I'll have to look in my wallet when I get the chance. See if I can get it all squared away.

Thanks to those that replied.

Go into the console and type "listaddressgroupings" (after unlocking the wallet). That will show you your full balance with a breakdown by each address - in other words, you'll see all the change addresses that the wallet is currently using.

b.t.w. The first time I got caught out with this change address stuff - a couple of years ago when I first started trading bitcoin - it gave me a complete heart attack because I checked the balances on blockchain.info and saw that most of my funds were gone. I thought I had been robbed.

After that, I always sent the funds back to the "main address" OR created paper wallets for the change addresses. If you've got significant amounts parked at any address I would always at least create a paper wallet using "dumpprivkey" in addition to whatever backups of the wallet.dat you have. Keeps you conscious of things.

I did the same thing, with Litecoin, when I first started! Freaked me out thinking that all my coins got stolen! Now I always reuse an existing address for change.
legendary
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legendary
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o the coins are technically still in my wallet, just under a different address? I'll have to look in my wallet when I get the chance. See if I can get it all squared away.

Thanks to those that replied.

Go into the console and type "listaddressgroupings" (after unlocking the wallet). That will show you your full balance with a breakdown by each address - in other words, you'll see all the change addresses that the wallet is currently using.

b.t.w. The first time I got caught out with this change address stuff - a couple of years ago when I first started trading bitcoin - it gave me a complete heart attack because I checked the balances on blockchain.info and saw that most of my funds were gone. I thought I had been robbed.

After that, I always sent the funds back to the "main address" OR created paper wallets for the change addresses. If you've got significant amounts parked at any address I would always at least create a paper wallet using "dumpprivkey" in addition to whatever backups of the wallet.dat you have. Keeps you conscious of things.
legendary
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Bitcoin unconfirmed transactions backlog - 25,000 and climbing.
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Fascinating. I wonder will the nodes crash...

Hey there what's going on? I've been MIA for a while!
newbie
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I'm a little puzzled with a transaction that took place from my qt-wallet.

This link shows the transaction on the blockchain: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1999511.htm

What I don't understand is where this ~18.39 Dash amount came from.  I sent 20 Dash to the address listed on Index item 1. I approved 20 Dash plus the small fee to be withdrawn from my qt-wallet. Definitely did NOT approve 38.39288666 DASH to be withdrawn and I've not set any payments out that were there previously and didn't go out.

The ~18.39 is sitting unredeemed according the transaction record. Have I lost it? Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? The ~38.39 definitely came out of my balance.

This 18,39 is in your change addresss which wallet creates each time you divide the one input amount....
If you send 50 coins out of your 100 coins you had in one address, if you will not point the exact change address you want (option in dash-qt) than the wallet creates it, it is the new address from your 1000 keys it already created when you created the wallet.dat for the first itme Smiley

so the coins are technically still in my wallet, just under a different address? I'll have to look in my wallet when I get the chance. See if I can get it all squared away.

Thanks to those that replied.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1014
Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host


Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.

THey need to work properly, fought will put some bitcoins to put on ask order, but then i have to open bitcurex account and transfer and do extra bull***t... So I just gave up on it...

I got a message "Invalid username or email" using an existing email address and this username


Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.

THey need to work properly, fought will put some bitcoins to put on ask order, but then i have to open bitcurex account and transfer and do extra bull***t... So I just gave up on it...

TAO'S DASHCUREX.COM GUIDE FOR DUMMIES:

- Create account at Dashcurex.com
- Fill out profile information.
- Under Settings, find Export Profile to Bitcurex.
- You now have an account at Bitcurex with the same login info.
- Buy Dash: Send Bitcoin to Bitcurex. Under Balances, click send to Dashcurex. Your BTC arrive in Dashcurex immediately.
- Sell Dash: Send Dash to Dashcurex. Sell for BTC. Under balances, click send to Bitcurex. Your BTC arrive at Bitcurex immediately. Withdraw as normal. (First time addresses must wait 48 hrs.)

Note 1. You can be logged into the two sites simultaneously.
Note 2. I have asked for a switch to Bitcurex feature, or the ability to send BTC from Dashcurex. I'm sure that functionality will come eventually.

Tao
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
I'm a little puzzled with a transaction that took place from my qt-wallet.

This link shows the transaction on the blockchain: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1999511.htm

What I don't understand is where this ~18.39 Dash amount came from.  I sent 20 Dash to the address listed on Index item 1. I approved 20 Dash plus the small fee to be withdrawn from my qt-wallet. Definitely did NOT approve 38.39288666 DASH to be withdrawn and I've not set any payments out that were there previously and didn't go out.

The ~18.39 is sitting unredeemed according the transaction record. Have I lost it? Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? The ~38.39 definitely came out of my balance.

This 18,39 is in your change addresss which wallet creates each time you divide the one input amount....
If you send 50 coins out of your 100 coins you had in one address, if you will not point the exact change address you want (option in dash-qt) than the wallet creates it, it is the new address from your 1000 keys it already created when you created the wallet.dat for the first itme Smiley
sr. member
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I'm a little puzzled with a transaction that took place from my qt-wallet.

This link shows the transaction on the blockchain: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1999511.htm

What I don't understand is where this ~18.39 Dash amount came from.  I sent 20 Dash to the address listed on Index item 1. I approved 20 Dash plus the small fee to be withdrawn from my qt-wallet. Definitely did NOT approve 38.39288666 DASH to be withdrawn and I've not set any payments out that were there previously and didn't go out.

The ~18.39 is sitting unredeemed according the transaction record. Have I lost it? Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? The ~38.39 definitely came out of my balance.

I'm guessing the ~18.39 is your change.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I'm a little puzzled with a transaction that took place from my qt-wallet.

This link shows the transaction on the blockchain: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/tx.dws?1999511.htm

What I don't understand is where this ~18.39 Dash amount came from.  I sent 20 Dash to the address listed on Index item 1. I approved 20 Dash plus the small fee to be withdrawn from my qt-wallet. Definitely did NOT approve 38.39288666 DASH to be withdrawn and I've not set any payments out that were there previously and didn't go out.

The ~18.39 is sitting unredeemed according the transaction record. Have I lost it? Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? The ~38.39 definitely came out of my balance.
sr. member
Activity: 1593
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Bitcoin unconfirmed transactions backlog - 25,000 and climbing.
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Fascinating. I wonder will the nodes crash...
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Bitcoin unconfirmed transactions backlog - 25,000 and climbing.

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1005
DASH is the future of crypto payments!


Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.
Giving some love there as well Smiley
Nice and quick and easy to use!
Looking forward for IX ! YEAH!


They need to work properly, thought will put some bitcoins to put on ask order, but then i have to open bitcurex account and transfer and do extra bull***t... So I just gave up on it...
Well, for me this is not a problem, all lasts like 10-15 sec more....
sr. member
Activity: 447
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Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.

THey need to work properly, fought will put some bitcoins to put on ask order, but then i have to open bitcurex account and transfer and do extra bull***t... So I just gave up on it...

I got a message "Invalid username or email" using an existing email address and this username
hero member
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Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.

THey need to work properly, fought will put some bitcoins to put on ask order, but then i have to open bitcurex account and transfer and do extra bull***t... So I just gave up on it...
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
How does the decentralized masternode payment system work?

VERY NICE SIMPLY DETAILED ANSWER

Getting that info out there:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/642360960754282496
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1014
Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host


Dash-only exchange! I deposited, sold, and withdrew without any problems. There is a decent buy order there for 100 DASH at .01 ATM. Let's get some volume over there!

https://dashcurex.com/buysellview/?market=BTC
Bump.
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