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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 2019. (Read 9723748 times)

legendary
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"Sometimes it is important not the amount of money, but their privacy..."

legendary
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Yes, smooth, and thank you for answering those questions.
legendary
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Tante, maybe this will cheer you up.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.  - Gandhi
The good news is we are no longer getting ignored.  One step closer.

I have pretty much given up on using Bitcoin.  It takes 10 minutes - 5hrs+ for a transaction to confirm depending if you spend 20 cents or 1 cent.  I store my crypto in Dash and just use shapeshift.io to instantly convert and pay with Bitcoin when needed.  My Bitcoin mining payouts convert to DASH through shapeshift.io too so I no longer even touch my Bitcoin wallet.  I don't have to store a 40GB Bitcoin blockchain that takes an hour to update if I don't load it every day.  It will keep getting more and more attractive to move to Dash.

Oh, no worries, today I had a lovely person, luigi1111, help teach me about cryptonote.  If you want to take a look at what I came up with, here it is:  http://steemjammer.com/share/Cryptonote.pdf

1. luigi1111 is indeed a great guy, very patient, knowledgable, and not any kind of shill or troll. You did well to work with luigi on this.

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Finally, you may ask yourself, can’t you just see if a key was spent, to tell which TXID was the real TXID? I believe the answer is no because of possibly two things.

The answer is no because what is on the list of spent keys are key images, which are deterministic hashes of the actual keys. That is a one-way function. So you can check to see if a key image is on there, but you can't go backwards to identify the actual key (or the transaction with which it is associated).

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When thinking on this, I also have to question whether or not cryptonote actually does indeed obscure transactions better than DS. The reason I say that is because every transaction has a 1:3 chance of knowing which is the correct owner of the transaction. DS, on the other hand, can be told to mix many times so that the chances of following a transaction are almost nill. Of course both systems could have bad actirs, especially early on.

The answer is that 1:3 is arbitrary. You can use whatever mix factor you want (could be 100, though the transaction will be large), or you can send the transaction through mixes multiple times (more or less analogous to multiple rounds of darksend)

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Because there are no blockchain explorers that give out all the information for a cryptonote coin that I could find, and because I'm not a programmer who can make my own blockchain analyzer, I am very curious to know if one could determain, from the actual output (the payee) and the change address, which combination of TXIDs were used to create the outputs

Indeed this is just a limitation of the current block explorers. It is possible to write code to identify the candidate transactions that were spent, just as you suspected. The print_tx commend of the node sort of does this, but not exactly (it gives output indexes not txid's but that is relatively straightforward to translate to a txid).

(Not sure why this is relevant to the Dash thread?)
legendary
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Tante, maybe this will cheer you up.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.  - Gandhi
The good news is we are no longer getting ignored.  One step closer.

I have pretty much given up on using Bitcoin.  It takes 10 minutes - 5hrs+ for a transaction to confirm depending if you spend 20 cents or 1 cent.  I store my crypto in Dash and just use shapeshift.io to instantly convert and pay with Bitcoin when needed.  My Bitcoin mining payouts convert to DASH through shapeshift.io too so I no longer even touch my Bitcoin wallet.  I don't have to store a 40GB Bitcoin blockchain that takes an hour to update if I don't load it every day.  It will keep getting more and more attractive to move to Dash.

Oh, no worries, today I had a lovely person, luigi1111, help teach me about cryptonote.  If you want to take a look at what I came up with, here it is:  http://steemjammer.com/share/Cryptonote.pdf

I hope I got it right.  If anyone wants to discuss this technology, please come to my thread here:  https://dashtalk.org/threads/cryptonote-explained.5705/
sr. member
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Drk.mn down  Sad

It's no longer that... it's now here: https://dashninja.pl/
Ah, it must not be redirecting to that anymore. I only have to press "D" and Drk.mn pops up. Thanks  Smiley

I know you were looking for this actually: http://www.dashnodes.com/
But the site looks broken. The Masternode count is all wrong along with the "Deployed" numbers. The user maintaining the site was last seen over 40 days ago at Dashtalk.
Next to Dashninja, I'd recommend this one: https://dash-stats.firebaseapp.com/
hero member
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I had some extra time on my hands and have done a very bad thing.  I've been conversing with morons.  I apologize to readers of this thread and to all intelligent humans.  I feel ashamed to beat them down so badly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11926380

it continues for about a page.

That thread depressed me so much yesterday, I really shouldn't have gone back to look, LOL.  But that Satoshi quote was hilarious, I assume it was faked, LOL

But seriously, throwing mud in all directions is stupid and achieves nothing.  Good thing, though, is a nice person has PM'd me and is helping me to understand.  That's all I wanted.  I'm not there yet, but I'm working on it Smiley

It's so depressing to see how ugly and mindless people are.  I mean, I don't know Peter Todd, I don't follow him, so I don't know how often he slings mud like that, but it's immature, especially when this core team works so hard.  It's fine to disagree with the direction, but to call names as if there were no validity to their approach is not responsible nor mature.  I guess every public figure has been there, done that.  But I can barely take what gets slung on this thread, that this recent excursion to the "outside" has definitely made me go back into hiding in this thread, LOL.  I'd be that ostrich with it's head in the sand, only I don't hang out here in BCT very much anyway, and do a lot of reading out in the general internet to gather my information.  BCT isn't a good place to learn anything in general, it's more of a place to gather rumors and see which way the wind is currently blowing.  I wonder, do all forums eventually degrade like this?  I belong to hobby forums where people are so nice, helpful and encouraging.  What a difference this is.
Tante, maybe this will cheer you up.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.  - Gandhi
The good news is we are no longer getting ignored.  One step closer.

I have pretty much given up on using Bitcoin.  It takes 10 minutes - 5hrs+ for a transaction to confirm depending if you spend 20 cents or 1 cent.  I store my crypto in Dash and just use shapeshift.io to instantly convert and pay with Bitcoin when needed.  My Bitcoin mining payouts convert to DASH through shapeshift.io too so I no longer even touch my Bitcoin wallet.  I don't have to store a 40GB Bitcoin blockchain that takes an hour to update if I don't load it every day.  It will keep getting more and more attractive to move to Dash.
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
Great article! But I've been hammering home on Twitter lately that this is only one of three major Bitcoin problems that Dash has solved in less than two years:

Bitcoin Problem                                         Dash Solution

Privacy/Fungibility                                       Darksend, renders transactions untraceable, and incapable of being discriminated against

Slow Transaction Times                                InstantX, using the power of the masternode network to guarantee transactions

Unbiased Funding Sources                            Decentralized Governance by Blockchain, giving Dash a permanent revenue stream

What Evan and Crew have done here in less than two years is nothing short of extraordinary, and it's only a matter of time before the quality that is Dash will shine through to the naysayers...
sr. member
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Drk.mn down  Sad

It's no longer that... it's now here: https://dashninja.pl/
Ah, it must not be redirecting to that anymore. I only have to press "D" and Drk.mn pops up. Thanks  Smiley
legendary
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legendary
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I had some extra time on my hands and have done a very bad thing.  I've been conversing with morons.  I apologize to readers of this thread and to all intelligent humans.  I feel ashamed to beat them down so badly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11926380

it continues for about a page.

That thread depressed me so much yesterday, I really shouldn't have gone back to look, LOL.  But that Satoshi quote was hilarious, I assume it was faked, LOL

But seriously, throwing mud in all directions is stupid and achieves nothing.  Good thing, though, is a nice person has PM'd me and is helping me to understand.  That's all I wanted.  I'm not there yet, but I'm working on it Smiley

It's so depressing to see how ugly and mindless people are.  I mean, I don't know Peter Todd, I don't follow him, so I don't know how often he slings mud like that, but it's immature, especially when this core team works so hard.  It's fine to disagree with the direction, but to call names as if there were no validity to their approach is not responsible nor mature.  I guess every public figure has been there, done that.  But I can barely take what gets slung on this thread, that this recent excursion to the "outside" has definitely made me go back into hiding in this thread, LOL.  I'd be that ostrich with it's head in the sand, only I don't hang out here in BCT very much anyway, and do a lot of reading out in the general internet to gather my information.  BCT isn't a good place to learn anything in general, it's more of a place to gather rumors and see which way the wind is currently blowing.  I wonder, do all forums eventually degrade like this?  I belong to hobby forums where people are so nice, helpful and encouraging.  What a difference this is.
sr. member
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sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
New ATH - 2869 !!!



My high tech ruler placed on the screen projects 3000 masternodes on July 28th at 11 AM if the current gradient persists  Grin
hero member
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Your Chi could be adversely affected if you continue, I recommend a cease and desist course of action to maintain purity of spirit and mind Cheesy

I agree.  Soiled enough am I.
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Haha that beautiful Dox. Was this known for a while? I love seeing the dumb faces behind internet trolls.

Enjoy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11907464


I enjoyed that very much actually, thank you
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
I had some extra time on my hands and have done a very bad thing.  I've been conversing with morons.  I apologize to readers of this thread and to all intelligent humans.  I feel ashamed to beat them down so badly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11926380
it continues for about a page.
Your Chi could be adversely affected if you continue, I recommend a cease and desist course of action to maintain purity of spirit and mind Cheesy
hero member
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Hey we can play the same game:

PETER TODD CALLS TROLLERO A FAILURE
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Difference here is: We only play retarded, you don't.


You know...you need to create a thread now. Be professional for God's sake  Cheesy
hero member
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I had some extra time on my hands and have done a very bad thing.  I've been conversing with morons.  I apologize to readers of this thread and to all intelligent humans.  I feel ashamed to beat them down so badly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11926380

it continues for about a page.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250

Haha that beautiful Dox. Was this known for a while? I love seeing the dumb faces behind internet trolls.

Enjoy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11907464
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