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Sub-Ether
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
#96144
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Sub-Ether on May 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!

Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible  Grin
You have 1 week and 5 days more the think and re-think about it;)

We only need 51% of the network to vote yes for this too pass   Smiley

./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l
931


Oh yes a massive vote occurred during last 2 hours...

And some changed their mind : now I got only 3 Nay.

First past the post, swing voters and my vote may not count, all sound eerily familiar,lol  Grin
imbladednow
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Activity: 481
Merit: 500
Woking as a binman sucks.
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:36:53 PM
#96143
I was looking so long for darkcoin.. only now I find out it is dash coin?? You should have stick with dark.
kadrek
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Activity: 327
Merit: 250
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:34:31 PM
#96142
I can't find my masternode.conf  Angry,is there a way to read it from the vps?
Lebubar
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:19:18 PM
#96141
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Sub-Ether on May 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!

Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible  Grin
You have 1 week and 5 days more the think and re-think about it;)

We only need 51% of the network to vote yes for this too pass   Smiley

./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l
931


Oh yes a massive vote occurred during last 2 hours...

And some changed their mind : now I got only 3 Nay.
Solarminer
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 502
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
#96140
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724

MN owners don't forget to vote!

FYI, the NAYs have fallen a little.  Some of us must have liked the revised proposal.   Cool

YEA 924
NAY 3
ABSTAIN 1615
etoque
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
#96139
hm,where are the video we've foundraise like 3 month ago ? We've talk about 40day 2 month maximum to see it.
eduffield
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1036
Dash Developer
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
#96138
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Sub-Ether on May 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!

Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible  Grin
You have 1 week and 5 days more the think and re-think about it;)

We only need 51% of the network to vote yes for this too pass   Smiley

./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l
931
Lebubar
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
#96137
Quote from: Sub-Ether on May 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!

Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible  Grin
You have 1 week and 5 days more to think and re-think about it;)
Sub-Ether
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
#96136
Quote from: Lebubar on May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!

Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible  Grin
GhostPlayer
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 11:43:08 AM
#96135
Quote from: BrainShutdown on May 08, 2015, 11:25:22 AM
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 07:29:02 AM
Quote from: tungfa on May 08, 2015, 04:08:50 AM


https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/

Great image, please everyone bump it every 24 hours or so, taking into account the forum moderation rules.

What do forum moderation rules say about bumping important information to the context of some thread?  Tongue

 I'm quoting you to answer that the forum rules just says "24h", and makes no mention of

 - Relevance to the topic of the thread
 - If importance is relevant enough to temporarily override the rule
 - If partial quoting is considered eligible
 - If multi-level quoting is encompassed
 - If mention of the quote is considered subversion of the rule
 - If moderation is enacted outside the time frame, is that specific quote exempt from initial condition
 - If mirroring of the quote is considered eligible
 - If an 180º upside-down screenshot flip of the quote is considered eligible
 - If these doubts are considered comments to moderation, thus breaking yet another rule (they're not, just to be clear, just doubts)
 - Is rewording of the original quote considered subversion of the rule
 - In case of users continually breaking the rules, would the community quoting the rules within the 24h timeframe also be considered breaking the rules.
Solarminer
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Activity: 826
Merit: 502
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 11:39:43 AM
#96134
Quote from: JGCMiner on May 08, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 08, 2015, 04:15:07 AM
Quote from: JGCMiner on May 07, 2015, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: Solarminer on May 07, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
A central escrow/wallet for projects will cause problems with theft/loss/confiscation/tax.  
Multisig in general is VERY secure and is proven in Bitcoin. Thus the temp implementation of having 7~10/15 multisig will not suffer from this problem.  As for future implementations... well we have testnet.  I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill on this theft/loss issue.  
Multisig means jack shit when the psychopaths who run the asylum decide to ruin or end you. If they want your multisig key you are going to give it to them. They're slightly less likely to ask for it torture it out of you if it doesn't exist in the first place.

Or do you think bad things only happen to those nasty brown people, on TV, in the land of Far Away?   Roll Eyes
No.  I simply don't have an unhealthy paranoia about gov't.  The gov't doesn't care about Dash.  And they certainly aren't going to torture the 15 people with the multisig keys for the brief period of time that this temporary solution is in place. That is nothing but a red herring and I hope voters will not be fooled by it.  
No need to worry, the revised proposal looks like it addresses the big concerns.
BrainShutdown
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Activity: 1052
Merit: 1004
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 11:25:22 AM
#96133
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 07:29:02 AM
Quote from: tungfa on May 08, 2015, 04:08:50 AM


https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/

Great image, please everyone bump it every 24 hours or so, taking into account the forum moderation rules.

What do forum moderation rules say about bumping important information to the context of some thread?  Tongue
Lebubar
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Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
#96132
Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724


MN owners don't forget to vote!
BrainShutdown
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Activity: 1052
Merit: 1004
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 10:07:04 AM
#96131
Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 08, 2015, 09:01:49 AM
Quote from: splawik21 on May 08, 2015, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
An Update To The Decentralized Governance Proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665

Nice clarification / update
YEA Smiley
Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day Cheesy

HELL YEA  Kiss

Amazing   Grin

As if there were any doubts about the commitment of the dev team in finding a true decentralized solution without any pork barrel  Roll Eyes

Go Dash!!
thelonecrouton
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Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 09:01:49 AM
#96130
Quote from: splawik21 on May 08, 2015, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
An Update To The Decentralized Governance Proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665

Nice clarification / update
YEA Smiley
Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day Cheesy

HELL YEA  Kiss
splawik21
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1005
DASH is the future of crypto payments!
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 08:52:53 AM
#96129
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
An Update To The Decentralized Governance Proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665

Nice clarification / update
YEA Smiley
Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day Cheesy
coins101
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Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
#96128
Quote from: eduffield on May 08, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
An Update To The Decentralized Governance Proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665

Nice clarification / update
eduffield
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1036
Dash Developer
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
#96127
An Update To The Decentralized Governance Proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665
JGCMiner
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Activity: 611
Merit: 500
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
#96126
Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 08, 2015, 04:15:07 AM
Quote from: JGCMiner on May 07, 2015, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: Solarminer on May 07, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
A central escrow/wallet for projects will cause problems with theft/loss/confiscation/tax.  

Multisig in general is VERY secure and is proven in Bitcoin. Thus the temp implementation of having 7~10/15 multisig will not suffer from this problem.  As for future implementations... well we have testnet.  I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill on this theft/loss issue.  

Multisig means jack shit when the psychopaths who run the asylum decide to ruin or end you. If they want your multisig key you are going to give it to them. They're slightly less likely to ask for it torture it out of you if it doesn't exist in the first place.

Or do you think bad things only happen to those nasty brown people, on TV, in the land of Far Away?   Roll Eyes



No.  I simply don't have an unhealthy paranoia about gov't.  The gov't doesn't care about Dash.  And they certainly aren't going to torture the 15 people with the multisig keys for the brief period of time that this temporary solution is in place. That is nothing but a red herring and I hope voters will not be fooled by it.  
thelonecrouton
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Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
May 08, 2015, 07:58:44 AM
#96125
Quote from: coins101 on May 08, 2015, 07:37:20 AM
Quote from: alex-ru on May 08, 2015, 06:28:06 AM
As I understand - if after voting MN has gone offline for more than 1 hour - it's vote is canceled and MN operator need to vote again?

It's pity we don't see whole list "IPs - actual vote results" so everybody could be sure  his vote(-s) is active. Sad

That could open up voting abuse.

Voting should have an element of privacy.

If I understood something Udjin said recently, all internal identifiers are moving towards pubkeys, not IP addresses, which would be better in a whole lot of ways, not just this. Obviously votes need to be attributable somehow.
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