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smooth

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Quote from: superlegitaccount on April 05, 2015, 10:20:25 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 05, 2015, 09:37:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 09:21:35 PM

Quote from: stealth923 on April 05, 2015, 09:18:53 PM

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me

LOL. mixin=0 is not supposed to be untraceable. It's just like a regular Bitcoin transaction.

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- Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

Coming from you that gives me a a bit of increased confidence.

Won't increasing the mixin make your bloating problems even worse than they are now?

"Bloating problems" implies that the usage is wasteful which it is not given the goal of private transactions. The same applies to darksend transactions, especially given the use of denominations (same as Monero; in fact with a higher "bloating" factor in general since fewer denominations are allowed), with multiple rounds being done (not needed in Monero), or even just the network traffic of talking to masternodes to set up the darksends. None of it is cost-free but the cost is being incurred to accomplish a purpose, not waste.

I mean we have Monero full node running on a Raspberry Pi at this point (experimental build still) so I think its pretty silly to go on and on about bloat.

From what I read, it seems like you are under the impression that Darksend rounds happen on the Dash Blockchain, this is a misconception.

I'm basing my understanding on this: http://cdn.anonymousbitcoinbook.com/darkcoin/darksend-paper/Atlas_Darksend-Analysis-v001.pdf

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A Typical Round of Darksend+

...

A randomly-selected Masternode orchestrates the signing of the transaction between the peers. On the blockchain, this type of transaction resembles several individual Bitcoin transactions “pasted” together into a single Darkcoin transaction.

g4q34g4qg47ww

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Quote from: masternode on April 04, 2015, 07:04:20 PM

We record all minutes and revisit them at the beginning of each foundation meeting to ensure the prior meeting accounts are acurate.

Can you please explain your role on the foundation board and how you came to obtain the position?

superlegitaccount

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Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 05, 2015, 09:37:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 09:21:35 PM

Quote from: stealth923 on April 05, 2015, 09:18:53 PM

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me

LOL. mixin=0 is not supposed to be untraceable. It's just like a regular Bitcoin transaction.

Quote

- Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

Coming from you that gives me a a bit of increased confidence.

Won't increasing the mixin make your bloating problems even worse than they are now?

"Bloating problems" implies that the usage is wasteful which it is not given the goal of private transactions. The same applies to darksend transactions, especially given the use of denominations (same as Monero; in fact with a higher "bloating" factor in general since fewer denominations are allowed), with multiple rounds being done (not needed in Monero), or even just the network traffic of talking to masternodes to set up the darksends. None of it is cost-free but the cost is being incurred to accomplish a purpose, not waste.

I mean we have Monero full node running on a Raspberry Pi at this point (experimental build still) so I think its pretty silly to go on and on about bloat.

From what I read, it seems like you are under the impression that Darksend rounds happen on the Dash Blockchain, this is a misconception.

smooth

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 05, 2015, 09:37:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 09:21:35 PM

Quote from: stealth923 on April 05, 2015, 09:18:53 PM

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me

LOL. mixin=0 is not supposed to be untraceable. It's just like a regular Bitcoin transaction.

Quote

- Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

Coming from you that gives me a a bit of increased confidence.

Won't increasing the mixin make your bloating problems even worse than they are now?

"Bloating problems" implies that the usage is wasteful which it is not given the goal of private transactions. The same applies to darksend transactions, especially given the use of denominations (same as Monero; in fact with a higher "bloating" factor in general since fewer denominations are allowed), with multiple rounds being done (not needed in Monero), or even just the network traffic of talking to masternodes to set up the darksends. None of it is cost-free but the cost is being incurred to accomplish a purpose, not waste.

I mean we have Monero full node running on a Raspberry Pi at this point (experimental build still) so I think its pretty silly to go on and on about bloat.

benthach

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all other anon coins should feel very good about this dass(digital ass) changed. darkcoin is a topnotch recognized anon scam premined coin but now is a generic scam coin. dass is dead and can't be revive, good job.

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Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 09:21:35 PM

Quote from: stealth923 on April 05, 2015, 09:18:53 PM

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me

LOL. mixin=0 is not supposed to be untraceable. It's just like a regular Bitcoin transaction.

Quote

- Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

Coming from you that gives me a a bit of increased confidence.

Won't increasing the mixin make your bloating problems even worse than they are now?

smooth

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Quote from: stealth923 on April 05, 2015, 09:18:53 PM

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me

LOL. mixin=0 is not supposed to be untraceable. It's just like a regular Bitcoin transaction.

Quote

- Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

Coming from you that gives me a a bit of increased confidence.

stealth923

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Quote from: smooth on April 05, 2015, 08:44:26 PM

Quote from: illodin on April 05, 2015, 06:37:24 PM

Quote from: pookielax31 on April 05, 2015, 10:05:35 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10982181

Well Monero is fucked for right now........XMR transactions being de-anonymized by the chain-radar blockchain
[sigh].... I thought some ideas there were very cool and showed promise...If you want ring sigs I guess shadow is best bet now

I don't want to feast on any project's issues, but one good thing about all that drama is that they seem to have more important things in their minds than spamming and advertising in DASH thread for now.

Guys, sorry to ruin your feast, but the chainradar thing is fake, i.e. guessing, and not doing a very good job of it.

Quote from: fluffypony on April 05, 2015, 07:02:50 AM

Premise

ChainRadar has suddenly started displaying a "From Transaction" value for transactions with a ring signature. By making a series of test transactions and then putting simplewallet into RPC mode, those "From Transaction" values can be scraped from ChainRadar and then checked against the transaction IDs of your spent outputs. If it is correct then the transaction will appear in your spent outputs, although there is something of a chance of a false positive. For large test samples in large wallets I would expect to see anything up to 5% false positives.

Results

I tested 19 transactions, some mixin 4 and some mixin 20 (excluding my own signature, so mixin 5 and 21 according to ChainRadar).

For these transactions none of them were completely compromised by ChainRadar, and ChainRadar got 0 out of 157 guesses correct, not even an accidentally correct guess or a false positive. Absolutely zero.

Click through for more details and the actual code behind the analysis.

Sorry to ruin your feast but I tested using 0 mixin and it worked for me - Monero is busted and now considered DEAD!

toknormal

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I know. It's an injustice - just as well you came and rectified that.

smooth

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Quote from: illodin on April 05, 2015, 06:37:24 PM

Quote from: pookielax31 on April 05, 2015, 10:05:35 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10982181

Well Monero is fucked for right now........XMR transactions being de-anonymized by the chain-radar blockchain
[sigh].... I thought some ideas there were very cool and showed promise...If you want ring sigs I guess shadow is best bet now

I don't want to feast on any project's issues, but one good thing about all that drama is that they seem to have more important things in their minds than spamming and advertising in DASH thread for now.

Guys, sorry to ruin your feast, but the chainradar thing is fake, i.e. guessing, and not doing a very good job of it.

Quote from: fluffypony on April 05, 2015, 07:02:50 AM

Premise

ChainRadar has suddenly started displaying a "From Transaction" value for transactions with a ring signature. By making a series of test transactions and then putting simplewallet into RPC mode, those "From Transaction" values can be scraped from ChainRadar and then checked against the transaction IDs of your spent outputs. If it is correct then the transaction will appear in your spent outputs, although there is something of a chance of a false positive. For large test samples in large wallets I would expect to see anything up to 5% false positives.

Results

I tested 19 transactions, some mixin 4 and some mixin 20 (excluding my own signature, so mixin 5 and 21 according to ChainRadar).

For these transactions none of them were completely compromised by ChainRadar, and ChainRadar got 0 out of 157 guesses correct, not even an accidentally correct guess or a false positive. Absolutely zero.

Click through for more details and the actual code behind the analysis.

arielbit

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Quote from: kadrek on April 05, 2015, 08:11:25 PM

Man, these trolls are really getting pathetic. All the really good ones use bold letters and bright colors Cheesy

thank you..renegademan motivated me to make it to the list Cheesy

have a nice day and a nice profit

kadrek

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Man, these trolls are really getting pathetic. All the really good ones use bold letters and bright colors Cheesy

jakehaas

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My fork:
https://github.com/jakehaas/p2pool-drk

contains all the fixes to make p2pool functional again

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Quote from: mjsrs on April 05, 2015, 06:49:57 PM

Quote from: Minotaur26 on April 05, 2015, 12:12:25 PM

"...face to face transactions making crypto more suitable for real world adoption."

For this to happen we need mobile wallets with instantX. I believe this should get higher priority than other features implementation like 2FA.

Great text!!

I agree, but with 2FA hopefully not too far behind.

Maybe the decentralised web wallet could work with a mobile interface too.

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Quote from: Minotaur26 on April 05, 2015, 12:12:25 PM

"...face to face transactions making crypto more suitable for real world adoption."

For this to happen we need mobile wallets with instantX. I believe this should get higher priority than other features implementation like 2FA.

Great text!!

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Quote from: pookielax31 on April 05, 2015, 10:05:35 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10982181

Well Monero is fucked for right now........XMR transactions being de-anonymized by the chain-radar blockchain
[sigh].... I thought some ideas there were very cool and showed promise...If you want ring sigs I guess shadow is best bet now

I don't want to feast on any project's issues, but one good thing about all that drama is that they seem to have more important things in their minds than spamming and advertising in DASH thread for now.

poiuty

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So I do it.
https://github.com/darkcoin/p2pool-drk/pull/7
And test => start second node, and they see each other.

poiuty

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jakehaas, so we can update IDENTIFIER and PREFIX.
To remove those who are not updated.

Code:

IDENTIFIER='7242ef345e1bed6b'.decode('hex'),
PREFIX='3b3e1286f446b891'.decode('hex'),
BOOTSTRAP_ADDRS='eu.p2pool.pl'.split(' '),

or just wait.

poiuty

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jakehaas, thx, update.

jakehaas

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p2pool is broken!

Nodes are broken that do not include this patch:
https://github.com/darkcoin/p2pool-drk/pull/8

Nodes are building blocks with version number 2, but they are being rejected because the daemon is expecting version 3.

Only 1 out of the last 13 p2pool blocks found was accepted (from a node that added this patch).

See http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/0000000000042766657a517c4c9491d6212df5b595e9b86769689da6d49c1bc5

This is the block right before a block was found (and rejected) by p2pool. You can see that there are 2 "next blocks" one at version 2 (rejected) and one at version 3 (accepted)

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