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legendary
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PHWARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR price rise AND rise in the number of Masternodes
Total Masternodes: 2418 = 2418 actives

If this isnt a sign of strength I dunno what is!
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This is probably last time we see such a low DRK/DASH price.
wait till tomorrow.

What is special about tomorrow?

I think he's just predicting a correction

Correct- and he didn't even have to wait till tomorrow.
sr. member
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I suppose my point is that people here bash XMR for this issue, which is based on 'buts and mayhaps'. Seems we have similar 'buts and mayhaps' so should cool off the bashing and be constructive.


No no, no buts and mayhaps. XMR is already bloated (check those stats posted) and it is only going to get worst for them
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Bad news from cryptsy ! Dumping bots are activated . You can see all automatic 77DRK orders .


here comes the dumpage! hold tight!

Good! Was waiting for this, will buy more DASH at the bottom!
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Did you check that yourself?

nope, i just posted what the XMR dev said about darksend bloat....if he's lying I'd like to know, if he's not then there must be minimal use of darksend otherwise we'd see the bloat.

just trying to understand the facts...
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sure, but as discussed above this is because nobody is using Darksend.....if they were, at which point you can reasonably stand DRK alongside other anon coins, then the bloat would be there.

people bash XMR because it will bloat with real-world anon use, but so will DRK, it just isn't now because it isn't being used for real-world anon.

am i missing something?


Nobody is really using Monero either yet, if it becomes 'mainstream' that bloat will be even more then it is currently. Ifs buts and mayhaps are a bad way to attempt to put your point across.

I suppose my point is that people here bash XMR for this issue, which is based on 'buts and mayhaps'. Seems we have similar 'buts and mayhaps' so should cool off the bashing and be constructive.
legendary
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I don't like doing my homework and and am not very good with numbers.

Utter nonsense about Dash having bloat, I did these calculations a while back (end of January), others have seen this post before.
Please do check my numbers if you dare.

The stats used are from bitinfocharts:-

        Darkcoin blockchain size = 0.5715 GigaBytes
        Days since genesis block=370 days
        Average Rate of growth for blockchain per day=1.5 MegaBytes/day

        quarkcoin block size = 2.4 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 550 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 4.3 MegaBytes/day

        litecoin blockchain size = 3.99 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 1201 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 3.3 MegaBytes/day

        dogecoin blockchain size = 8.49 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 412 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 20 MegaBytes/day

        bitcoin blockchain size = 34.3 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 2205 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain = 15 MegaBytes/day

       Monero blockchain size =3.5 gigabytes
        days since genesis block =303 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain =11.6 megabytes/day


sure, but as discussed above this is because nobody is using Darksend.....if they were, at which point you can reasonably stand DRK alongside other anon coins, then the bloat would be there.

people bash XMR because it will bloat with real-world anon use, but so will DRK, it just isn't now because it isn't being used for real-world anon.

am i missing something?


Did you check that yourself?
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sure, but as discussed above this is because nobody is using Darksend.....if they were, at which point you can reasonably stand DRK alongside other anon coins, then the bloat would be there.

people bash XMR because it will bloat with real-world anon use, but so will DRK, it just isn't now because it isn't being used for real-world anon.

am i missing something?


Nobody is really using Monero either yet, if it becomes 'mainstream' that bloat will be even more then it is currently. Ifs buts and mayhaps are a bad way to attempt to put your point across.
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Bad news from cryptsy ! Dumping bots are activated . You can see all automatic 77DRK orders .


here comes the dumpage! hold tight!
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Bad news from cryptsy ! Dumping bots are activated . You can see all automatic 77DRK orders .
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I don't like doing my homework and and am not very good with numbers.

Utter nonsense about Dash having bloat, I did these calculations a while back (end of January), others have seen this post before.
Please do check my numbers if you dare.

The stats used are from bitinfocharts:-

        Darkcoin blockchain size = 0.5715 GigaBytes
        Days since genesis block=370 days
        Average Rate of growth for blockchain per day=1.5 MegaBytes/day

        quarkcoin block size = 2.4 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 550 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 4.3 MegaBytes/day

        litecoin blockchain size = 3.99 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 1201 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 3.3 MegaBytes/day

        dogecoin blockchain size = 8.49 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 412 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 20 MegaBytes/day

        bitcoin blockchain size = 34.3 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 2205 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain = 15 MegaBytes/day

       Monero blockchain size =3.5 gigabytes
        days since genesis block =303 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain =11.6 megabytes/day


sure, but as discussed above this is because nobody is using Darksend.....if they were, at which point you can reasonably stand DRK alongside other anon coins, then the bloat would be there.

people bash XMR because it will bloat with real-world anon use, but so will DRK, it just isn't now because it isn't being used for real-world anon.

am i missing something?
sr. member
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I don't like doing my homework and and am not very good with numbers.

Utter nonsense about Dash having bloat, I did these calculations a while back (end of January), others have seen this post before.
Please do check my numbers if you dare.

The stats used are from bitinfocharts:-

        Darkcoin blockchain size = 0.5715 GigaBytes
        Days since genesis block=370 days
        Average Rate of growth for blockchain per day=1.5 MegaBytes/day

        quarkcoin block size = 2.4 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 550 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 4.3 MegaBytes/day

        litecoin blockchain size = 3.99 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 1201 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 3.3 MegaBytes/day

        dogecoin blockchain size = 8.49 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 412 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain per day = 20 MegaBytes/day

        bitcoin blockchain size = 34.3 GigaBytes
        days since genesis block = 2205 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain = 15 MegaBytes/day

        Monero blockchain size =3.5 gigabytes
        days since genesis block =303 days
        average rate of growth for blockchain =11.6 megabytes/day
sr. member
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I had some requests for people wanting to mine Dark/Dashcoin on Port 80/443, I've added that to Suprnova now:

https://dark.suprnova.cc

Happy mining !

That sounds as we will get some botnet mining there :O Just my 2 cents ...

Ofc there are other people, too, that have blocked all ports besides http/https ...
legendary
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 Is it just me... or with all this rebrand troll-hysteria no one noticed that Masternode rewards have gone up to...


 40%


 
newbie
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pfff 5$ is nothing !

If 5$ is nothing then send it to me
i will buy raspberry pi and make Dash MN

mi Dash address Xdp6sfEPNm4skbbGWdiDWQTATHtcWAvs7e
thx for donation  Cheesy
member
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Over on the XMR vs DRK thread I'm having a nice civilised debate with fluffypony, XMR dev - seems like a nice guy and argues very well for the technical merits of his coin.

We covered the point of blockchain bloat, an oft cited weakness in Monero vs Darkcoin. He had this response:

"Darkcoin has a ton of bloat. In fact, if you compare a set of DarkSend transactions with a Monero transaction at a high mixin of, say, 20 you will notice that Monero's reduced scripting size makes it quite a bit smaller. If Darkcoin users start using DarkSend all the time instead of just occasionally you will experience phenomenal bloat."

Can anyone comment on this?

Evan has already talked about a way to reduce the size of the blockchain by abbreviating transactions. You can listen his explanation in the last interview he gave in Let's Talk Bitcoin:
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-196-distortions-towards-privacy-or-many-hands-makes-light-work

Brief explanation:

Let's say you have an input that was sent from A to B, then from B to C, and finally from C to D. That is three transactions that get into the blockchain, but the only relevant thing to check for the validity of any subsequent transaction is to know that the funds are in D, so the three transactions could be summarized to from A to D. Than can be done in the masternodes, that would host a pruned version of the blockchain and a full one, to avoid losing history in case it is needed. Clients will likely be able to chose which one to use, but the specifics still need to be worked out.

Btw, that comparison was not very fair to start with. Right now, Darkcoin users don't always use Darksend, so that IF at the beginning of the sentence is very important. In the future that may change, but by then we will have the pruning mechanism, so it should not be a big deal.

yep i know about the planned features, but a lot of the XMR bashing is on today's implementation, not some future hypothetical implementation....

OK, so the reality is that if DRK is used as a fully anon coin it has the same/worse bloat problems as XMR, but because the anon is optional and hardly anyone's using it there isn't a bloat problem today.

this being the case it seems unfair to bash XMR for bloat, although maybe i'm missing something.

either way I hope the planned solution resolves the issue for DRK.


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The website is dashpay.io



and what about her back door? Is that to remain open for all and sundry to enter as they please?
legendary
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Time to pester Kraken yet again to adopt Dash.

 Anyone with me ?? Hate the old and new web interface, but its the most secure exchange out there, imho.

I was thinking more along the lines of OKCoin. Weren't they rumored to be interested in DRK a while back?

 China right? Yeah, sure!

 I'd like to have a SEPA exchange, for instant merchant adoption possibilities and payment processing even... Plus being Jesse Powell the man behind it is super duper cool.

 And I fully agree, the website designer for Kraken should be slapped in the face and put in the corner with a silly-hat on. But hey, BitFinex is 10x worse.

 function over form.
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