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Quote from: splawik21 on February 06, 2015, 06:59:22 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:54:08 PM

30 minutes is too long.
1000 masternodes shutdown in same time and bye bye darkcoin.
Do you think that Iceland is a problem for the Gov US ?

Do you think that whole world is a problem for US? Yes it is! They have acceses to many countries but not all, sorry.
Cut the head of hydra and there will be 2x, close 500 MNs there will be 1000 new more spreded.

Yes, but for the moment the majority of the masternodes running in US and EU and in the same place "datacenter VULTR, OVH,..."

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How do I calculate approximately how much a masternode will earn ?

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:54:08 PM

30 minutes is too long.
1000 masternodes shutdown in same time and bye bye darkcoin.
Do you think that Iceland is a problem for the Gov US ?

Do you think that whole world is a problem for US? Yes it is! They have acceses to many countries but not all, sorry.
Cut the head of hydra and there will be 2x, close 500 MNs there will be 1000 new more spreded.

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Quote from: stealth923 on February 06, 2015, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:54:08 PM

30 minutes is too long.
1000 masternodes shutdown in same time and bye bye darkcoin.
Do you think that Iceland is a problem for the Gov US ?

ok fine, scripted I can do it in 5 min, that better for you?

Also - shutdown 1000 of them, theres still 1100 remaining to service the network....clearly you are thick

No, it's not better, move a masternode inside an another datacenter is not a solution.
It's not really decentralized sorry.

The security of the darkcoin is not decentralized

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:54:08 PM

30 minutes is too long.
1000 masternodes shutdown in same time and bye bye darkcoin.
Do you think that Iceland is a problem for the Gov US ?

ok fine, scripted I can do it in 5 min, that better for you?

Also - shutdown 1000 of them, theres still 1100 remaining to service the network....clearly you are thick

sangoku

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30 minutes is too long.
1000 masternodes shutdown in same time and bye bye darkcoin.
Do you think that Iceland is a problem for the Gov US ?

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:47:04 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:42:46 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:38:24 PM

If the gouv shutdown 500 masternodes in same time, it's the end of darkcoin.
It's not a good reasoning

If 500 MNs vanished it wouldn't do a damn thing to the rest of the network except increase their earnings. I understand your point, but I don't think a pi 2 on a crappy domestic connection is any improvement.

Whats the most easy ?

Shutdown 2000 masternodes on a pi 2, laptop, pc,... distributed worldwide

Shutdown 2000 masternodes on 10 datacenters, including 8 in USA and EU

EU and USA it's the same.
It's not a problem for the NSA

Fine shut them down, I can have my masternodes back up and running in an iceland datacentre in 30min time.........what else you got?

What you dont understand is setting up a masternode once scripted is trivial....moving them between VPS providers easy as no coins are stored on the servers.

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:42:46 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:38:24 PM

If the gouv shutdown 500 masternodes in same time, it's the end of darkcoin.
It's not a good reasoning

If 500 MNs vanished it wouldn't do a damn thing to the rest of the network except increase their earnings. I understand your point, but I don't think a pi 2 on a crappy domestic connection is any improvement.

Whats the most easy ?

Shutdown 2000 masternodes on a pi 2, laptop, pc,... distributed worldwide

Shutdown 2000 masternodes on 10 datacenters, including 8 in USA and EU

EU and USA it's the same.
It's not a problem for the NSA

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:38:24 PM

If the gouv shutdown 500 masternodes in same time, it's the end of darkcoin.
It's not a good reasoning

If 500 MNs vanished it wouldn't do a damn thing to the rest of the network except increase their earnings. I understand your point, but I don't think a pi 2 on a crappy domestic connection is any improvement.

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Quote from: oblox on February 06, 2015, 06:37:01 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:22:35 PM

For a masternode it's an obligation to have a static ip ?
Or it's possible with a dynamic ip ?

For to run a masternode at home on a raspery pi 2
For a real p2p masternode network and not an installation a new masternode on a data center owned by a US/EU provider.

On a datacenter it's most easy to switch off the masternode network.

Look harder and you can find VPS's outside of the US and EU. As for on the raspi's, still too buggy for it to be practical.

Ok, but several masternodes on a same datacenter it's not secure.
It's not really decentralized network.

Good toughness, it's masternodes everywhere and not 100 or more in the same place.

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:36:05 PM

Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:29:37 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:27:48 PM

Yes you still need a static IP. How much is a pi 2? You could probably get several years of VPS hosting for the same price providing far greater reliability.

Ok, but on a datacenter it's not secure and not realy decentralized
It's easy to switch off the masternodes network.
Many masternodes are in the United States on the same datacenter, with the patriot act it's easy to access and switch off the masternode servers.

Don't rent a US based VPS. If a particular provider gets taken down for whatever reason you can set up your MN somewhere else in about 5 minutes.

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If the gouv shutdown 500 masternodes in same time, it's the end of darkcoin.
It's not a good reasoning

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:22:35 PM

For a masternode it's an obligation to have a static ip ?
Or it's possible with a dynamic ip ?

For to run a masternode at home on a raspery pi 2
For a real p2p masternode network and not an installation a new masternode on a data center owned by a US/EU provider.

On a datacenter it's most easy to switch off the masternode network.

Look harder and you can find VPS's outside of the US and EU. As for on the raspi's, still too buggy for it to be practical.

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Quote from: sangoku on February 06, 2015, 06:29:37 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:27:48 PM

Yes you still need a static IP. How much is a pi 2? You could probably get several years of VPS hosting for the same price providing far greater reliability.

Ok, but on a datacenter it's not secure and not realy decentralized
It's easy to switch off the masternodes network.
Many masternodes are in the United States on the same datacenter, with the patriot act it's easy to access and switch off the masternode servers.

Don't rent a US based VPS. If a particular provider gets taken down for whatever reason you can set up your MN somewhere else in about 5 minutes.

exoticvps.com
lowendbox.com

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:27:48 PM

Yes you still need a static IP. How much is a pi 2? You could probably get several years of VPS hosting for the same price providing far greater reliability.

Ok, but on a datacenter it's not secure and not realy decentralized
It's easy to switch off the masternodes network.
Many masternodes are in the United States on the same datacenters, with the patriot act it's easy to access and switch off the masternode servers.

So for me it's a priority to change the rules and the code for to allow the installation at home with a dynamic ip.

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Yes you still need a static IP. How much is a pi 2? You could probably get several years of VPS hosting for the same price providing far greater reliability.

sangoku

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For a masternode it's an obligation to have a static ip ?
Or it's possible with a dynamic ip ?

For to run a masternode at home on a raspery pi 2
For a real p2p masternode network and not an installation a new masternode on a data center owned by a US/EU provider.

On a datacenter it's most easy to switch off the masternode network.

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on February 06, 2015, 06:08:52 PM

Maza coin is SHA 256, mined on ASICs. You can't compare it to Darkcoin - X11 mined on GPUs - and derive much of meaning from the numbers alone. And security relies on distribution, something Darkcoin's hashrate doesn't enjoy much of.

Oh yeah. I forgot about the algo differences - have updated my post to note that.

Quote from: coins101 on February 06, 2015, 06:12:06 PM

Isn't mazacoin sha256?

You need to think about adoption. That's how to increase the hashrate.

I agree - I just think there's been a lot of focus on masternodes lately (like almost the whole of the last year) and zero on mining. I was only worried about not throwing the mining community under a bus in the name of masternode holders.

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still have any hashrate after all this masternode stuff ? A paultry 100 GH/s. 1% of Maza coin's hashrate.

Isn't mazacoin sha256?

You need to think about adoption. That's how to increase the hashrate.

I keep thinking about the credit card business model. And the PayPal business model. Come to think of it the traditional banking model?

What exactly do they do, when you strip away the marketing crap, that Darkcoin doesn't or can't do?

Ahhhhhhhh.....you see where I'm going with this, yet?

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